orderly Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Didn't one of the Plymouth riders stop being Captain? Perhaps he refused to sign that the riders had been paid... Whoever is Captain now is doing the rest of the riders a disservice by signing that piece of paper - though I guess he's in an almost impossible situation... The BSPA are fully aware of the situation at Plymouth, remember that they hold Mr. Bowden’s bond of about £20k so the riders will get paid at sometime As long as he's paying the standard BSPA rates, that's all they need, the rest of the contract meanss diddly squat to the BSPA But they are not getting paid at all. But with all that said a contract is a legal binding document between the concerned parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 What sort of crowds do Plymouth get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 What sort of crowds do Plymouth get? With Jim Bowen in charge super smashing great................alright i'm off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 james cockle on plymouths facebook page says bowden owes him money from last season and this season how long will bowden be allowed to be promoter hes dragging plymouth and speedway in to the gutter has to be stopped its a disgrace imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 james cockle on plymouths facebook page says bowden owes him money from last season and this season how long will bowden be allowed to be promoter hes dragging plymouth and speedway in to the gutter has to be stopped its a disgrace imo I assume the reason he was sacked earlier this year is because he demanded his money then. C'mon BSPA, sort this mess out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I assume the reason he was sacked earlier this year is because he demanded his money then. C'mon BSPA, sort this mess out. could be it would make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Bowden only had one thing in mind from the first day he open the gates at the SBA, put has little money into the club has possible, and to take has much out has possible, you only have to look at the state of the area around the track to see that, for him too say his only aim was to bring speedway back to the city of Plymouth is complete rubbish, we all know now the real reason, there are one or two things to be sorted, but hopefully and with a bit of luck he will be gone soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Can someone explain to me how at the weekend Newcastle can use Paul Starke 3.00, and Robin Aspregren 5.68 = 8.68 has guest's for Richie Worrall 3.64 and Steve Worrall 3.45 = 7.09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Can someone explain to me how at the weekend Newcastle can use Paul Starke 3.00, and Robin Aspregren 5.68 = 8.68 has guest's for Richie Worrall 3.64 and Steve Worrall 3.45 = 7.09. http://www.speedwaygb.co/issues12/pl12_issue_18.pdf Those are the current green sheets averages. Newcastle are entitled to use a guest up to an 5.78 average to cover for Richie Worrall, whereas it's NL guests for Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 http://www.speedwayg...12_issue_18.pdf Those are the current green sheets averages. Newcastle are entitled to use a guest up to an 5.78 average to cover for Richie Worrall, whereas it's NL guests for Steve. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) There seem to be a lot of people at Plymouth who haven't got the hang of the Rulebook, including Mr Bowden. I know it can be difficult, but that makes it a fundamental requirement if you want to follow the sport. So you think it is a fundamental requirement to know all the rules if you want to follow the sport of speedway Dave, i bet if you ask most riders about the rules they wouldn't have a clue about them, for you to say it is a fundamental requirement to know them to follow the sport i think you need to sit down and engage you brain before you make a statement like that, most people just like to watch the sport, and not all of us are masterminds of the sport like you seem to be Dave, i leave knowing the rules to experts who can tell you everything to do with the rules, and good for them, i have watched the sport for over forty years, and have never tried to read the rulebook, i just like watching the sport, the basic rules of speedway are the only one's anyone needs to enjoy the sport, but who am i to argue with an expert of the sport like you. Edited August 14, 2012 by Devildodger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Why the anger? I too have watched speedway for 40 years, and I genuinely believe that if you want to follow the sport you need to understand the rules - especially for guests, R/R, averages and team line-up. Why the anger? I too have watched speedway for 40 years, and I genuinely believe that if you want to follow the sport you need to understand the rules - especially for guests, R/R, averages and team line-up. The rules are as clear as mud ,regarding averages ,Ass averages guests ,riders that can double down,no wonder somebody just asks a simple question,all you have to do is give him the simple answer not question his knowledge of the rulebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 So you think it is a fundamental requirement to know all the rules if you want to follow the sport of speedway Dave, i bet if you ask most riders about the rules they wouldn't have a clue about them, for you to say it is a fundamental requirement to know them to follow the sport i think you need to sit down and engage you brain before you make a statement like that, most people just like to watch the sport, and not all of us are masterminds of the sport like you seem to be Dave, i leave knowing the rules to experts who can tell you everything to do with the rules, and good for them, i have watched the sport for over forty years, and have never tried to read the rulebook, i just like watching the sport, the basic rules of speedway are the only one's anyone needs to enjoy the sport, but who am i to argue with an expert of the sport like you. Not a lecture from me, just a question: are you Mike Bowden? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 My actual words were: "I know it can be difficult, but that makes it a fundamental requirement if you want to follow the sport." I should have put, "I think " before the word but - because it's my opinion. Devildodger got the hump and said s/he only needs to know the basic rules. Interestingly: Basic and Fundamental are the same thing. We've obviously got different views. No problem. No need to get angry. Chill. Not angry,just chilling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 My actual words were: "I know it can be difficult, but that makes it a fundamental requirement if you want to follow the sport." I should have put, "I think " before the word but - because it's my opinion. Devildodger got the hump and said s/he only needs to know the basic rules. Interestingly: Basic and Fundamental are the same thing. We've obviously got different views. No problem. No need to get angry. Chill. Snackette jr. strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Why the anger? I too have watched speedway for 40 years, and I genuinely believe that if you want to follow the sport you need to understand the rules - especially for guests, R/R, averages and team line-up. I have watched Speedway since 1964. It seems that there are a number of Rules I don't know about and still more that confuse the hell out of me. Just how complicated they want to make four blokes riding around a track - I don't know. :sad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I have watched Speedway since 1964. It seems that there are a number of Rules I don't know about and still more that confuse the hell out of me. Just how complicated they want to make four blokes riding around a track - I don't know. :sad: Man & boy I have been involved in Speedway in some way since Easter 1951 and have held various posts during that time I even had a spell riding (total crap) but I had a go, and Istill do not know the rules 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Any news on the exent of Ryan Fishers injuries?... Will he be taking his place in the Devils line up this Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Any news on the exent of Ryan Fishers injuries?... Will he be taking his place in the Devils line up this Saturday? Nothing broken is as much as I know Shads a bit battered and bruised though. Unless he has a concussion that would rule him out, I'd guess knowing the Fish he'll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nothing broken is as much as I know Shads a bit battered and bruised though. Unless he has a concussion that would rule him out, I'd guess knowing the Fish he'll be there. You updating for this MIkey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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