Roger MARTIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Bowden might for for Lanham and drop Fisher........... I don't think he will do that Montie, if he bring's him in he will want to have Ben, Leigh and Ryan has the three heat leader's, then build around them, i wouldn't drop the Fish for Lanham, Leigh is a good rider but Ryan is better, i know it will be hard on some of the rider's if he does that but that's what i think he will do, that's if he goes for Lanham. Edited February 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Melgren has never been to the SBA Mellgren rode at the SBA on 2nd July 2011, for the Rebels, scoring 4pts from 4 rides (Results here) and it would have been 6 from if he hadn't been harsly excluded in his first ride. The beauty of Mellgren is that he can gate really well at times, something that is a distinct advantage on the tight confines of the SBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Mellgren rode at the SBA on 2nd July 2011, for the Rebels, scoring 4pts from 4 rides (Results here) and it would have been 6 from if he hadn't been harsly excluded in his first ride. The beauty of Mellgren is that he can gate really well at times, something that is a distinct advantage on the tight confines of the SBA Yeh your right i was at that meeting, he did look quick out of the gate, to quick for the ref in that meeting, sorry i missed that one , forgot he was a Somerset last year to, but a rider we could do with also, it is a very good advantage to be quick out of the gate at the SBA, one thing for sure is someone has to go to bring Lanhan in if that's the case, and Mellgren would fit, but i'm just guessing about that. Edited February 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 To bring Leigh Lanham into the Plymouth side it would mean dropping Boxall, Fisher or Barker. I can't see that happening to be honest. On paper if we had brought in a rider of sufficient second string / third heatleader standard to replace Werner we would be OK. There are loads of options out there that could fit but we've gone for Franchetti to save money. I don't see the point in a total re-jig of the side at this stage of the season injuries will happen as it is the nature of the sport and when that happens we can look into a few things just like other clubs will. Given what has been going on Fisher is the last one who is likely to be dropped in my opinion, I'd be more worried about losing Barker if I'm honest given the shenanigans of late. I also know that a certain rider was promised a spot should Werner step out of the side yet funnily enough he isn't the man who is filling that void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Devils are a side built to fit a budget and not with the intention of anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 That being the case, then that's a good thing - especially this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) To bring Leigh Lanham into the Plymouth side it would mean dropping Boxall, Fisher or Barker. I can't see that happening to be honest. On paper if we had brought in a rider of sufficient second string / third heatleader standard to replace Werner we would be OK. There are loads of options out there that could fit but we've gone for Franchetti to save money. I don't see the point in a total re-jig of the side at this stage of the season injuries will happen as it is the nature of the sport and when that happens we can look into a few things just like other clubs will. Given what has been going on Fisher is the last one who is likely to be dropped in my opinion, I'd be more worried about losing Barker if I'm honest given the shenanigans of late. I also know that a certain rider was promised a spot should Werner step out of the side yet funnily enough he isn't the man who is filling that void. Mike i agree but we are talking about Mike Bowden hear, if he want's to bring any rider in he will, it woudn't suprise me if he went for him, i don't think bringing Franchetti in was just to save money, just an easy option, Mike Bowden has opted to bring Gino back, he has moved James up, wouldn't it make sence to bring in a rider like Lanham just to make the top five stronger, stave Boxhall at best at the moment is a very good second string rider, i think it would make sence, and i know what you are saying about him having a budgit Richard, but if Mike wanted to bring him in he would, rider's like that don't become avaliable very often, and when they do you have to act quickly. Edited February 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 OK so lets imagine Lanham signs and we get rid of Boxall (which may I say would be a disgrace). It doesn't solve the problem that we have which is that our bottom four are all reserves. Yes Lanham is likely to be more reliable than Boxall and more consistent for that matter but having a 3/4 pairing of Lanham / Holder is no better infact probably worse than a 3/4 pairing of Boxall / Aspegren or even Mellgren. The fact that we will still have a three point rider and a four point rider in the main body of the side is a big problem that wont be solved by signing Lanham or anyone else of a similar average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Devils are a side built to fit a budget and not with the intention of anything else. Must be a pretty decent budget if Fisher is riding. I have heard that where his demands are concerned, expensive is a minor understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Must be a pretty decent budget if Fisher is riding. I have heard that where his demands are concerned, expensive is a minor understatement. And yet on another thread, people think it's a disgrace that Ryan was twiddling his thumbs with no teamplace. As you know, there's always a reason why someone hasn't been signed. Full employment of riders just increases demands further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english roundabout Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 It would not surprise me one bit if Mike didn't go for Leigh Lanham, a quality rider and great rider for Exeter, so Mike and Seemond must know all about him and it would be a great top three with Ben, Ryan and Leigh, to have a third heat leader with the quality that Leigh has, now that would make people talk, and would shut the moaner's up, wouldn't it Didn't realise lanham used to ride at exeter devildodger. I always thought he was a small track rider. Was he good on the scary county ground track then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) Didn't realise lanham used to ride at exeter devildodger. I always thought he was a small track rider. Was he good on the scary county ground track then? Leigh use to ride for the Falcon's i think it was about 1997, you could see he was going to be a good rider, he handled the bend's at the County Ground no problem, if you can ride the County Ground track you can ride just about any track, that's why i said Mike Bowden would have see him, i know he use to go there. Edited February 19, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 OK so lets imagine Lanham signs and we get rid of Boxall (which may I say would be a disgrace). It doesn't solve the problem that we have which is that our bottom four are all reserves. Yes Lanham is likely to be more reliable than Boxall and more consistent for that matter but having a 3/4 pairing of Lanham / Holder is no better infact probably worse than a 3/4 pairing of Boxall / Aspegren or even Mellgren. The fact that we will still have a three point rider and a four point rider in the main body of the side is a big problem that wont be solved by signing Lanham or anyone else of a similar average. having a top 3 of ben, ryan and leigh would certainly take the pressure of the tail a bit. i think the tail might suprise a few people when the season gets going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 having a top 3 of ben, ryan and leigh would certainly take the pressure of the tail a bit. i think the tail might suprise a few people when the season gets going A bit of a sting in it Skippy, i hope your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 dont think lanham is an option his elite club ride fridays i think not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) OK so lets imagine Lanham signs and we get rid of Boxall (which may I say would be a disgrace). It doesn't solve the problem that we have which is that our bottom four are all reserves. Yes Lanham is likely to be more reliable than Boxall and more consistent for that matter but having a 3/4 pairing of Lanham / Holder is no better infact probably worse than a 3/4 pairing of Boxall / Aspegren or even Mellgren. The fact that we will still have a three point rider and a four point rider in the main body of the side is a big problem that wont be solved by signing Lanham or anyone else of a similar average. We all know that Mike, but the man that matter's don't, that's where the problem lies, sticking to the team we have now will give us a few point's left if we need to make a change, but if Leigh Lanham come's into the team we will have none, would it be worth the gamble, well if it happen's Mike Bowden think's it will, so we will just have to go with it. dont think lanham is an option his elite club ride fridays i think not sure? I think you may be right lewy, unless Summer's ride's all the home meeting's and Lanham the away meeting's, or when Summer's isn't available, i think Lanham will need to ride in the PL just to make riding worth it, but like you say lewy it may not be a option because Coventry ride on friday's. Edited February 19, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Indeed Lanham being at Coventry will ride Friday nights but they do race on other nights too. When there is a GP weekend they sometimes switch to Thursdays and of course when on Sky do race on Mondays. I suspect Summers will be first choice of that pair anyway. If what is being muted happens then Lanham will replace Boxall which still leaves us about a point under the limit. Meaning we could still have done away with the idea of signing Franchetti, left Cockle at reserve and brought in a 4 point man with potential to ride in the main body. Whilst man for man the difference may not be huge, having Cockle at reserve instead of Franchetti is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Indeed Lanham being at Coventry will ride Friday nights but they do race on other nights too. When there is a GP weekend they sometimes switch to Thursdays and of course when on Sky do race on Mondays. I suspect Summers will be first choice of that pair anyway. If what is being muted happens then Lanham will replace Boxall which still leaves us about a point under the limit. Meaning we could still have done away with the idea of signing Franchetti, left Cockle at reserve and brought in a 4 point man with potential to ride in the main body. Whilst man for man the difference may not be huge, having Cockle at reserve instead of Franchetti is. Can't argue with that Mike , i think it will be very hard on James having to ride in the main body of the team, i think the lad deserve's better than that to be very honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Must be a pretty decent budget if Fisher is riding. I have heard that where his demands are concerned, expensive is a minor understatement. More like a budget as in Kwik Save or Scrapheap Challenge! Which explains why the Devils team comes in under the team building limit (this at the time of writing - there seems to be all sorts of speculation as to the Devils starting line-up at the moment) The promoter has used most of his defined budget for Fisher and so for the rest of the side cost will count for more than CMA in the promoter's eyes. It's hardly as if the promoter has a reputation for throwing his cash around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Most seem to be forgetting an important point about James Holder, he has been riding for the last 2 years with an undiagnosed shoulder problem, that has now been sorted out and for the first time there will be a very fit James Holder, I think that could make a very big difference. The questions about Lanham doubling up with a Friday night Elite track must have been sorted a while ago or havent you 'experts' noticed that Newport were also going to ride on a Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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