CardinalSin Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Crumbs didn't realise things were this difficult for Plymouth. Worrying times indeed as it seems a few others are struggling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) What a PR nightmare this guy is. Have to feel sorry for the Plymouth fans being led by a Promoter likes this. Clueless. Edited August 9, 2012 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJT Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Rider Replacement for a missing reserve, thats a new one! Guess the sports writers can only print what they are given. Can't be that difficult to get a NL guest can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greyhoundp Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Rider Replacement for a missing reserve, thats a new one! Guess the sports writers can only print what they are given. Can't be that difficult to get a NL guest can it? Â Who is there, that is up to PL standard ? and if they aint going to get paid, who will want to ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Rider Replacement for a missing reserve, thats a new one! Guess the sports writers can only print what they are given. Can't be that difficult to get a NL guest can it? its not new for plymouth they turned up at workington a couple of years ago with only 5 riders and only 1 reserve lucky for them the meeting was rained off theres no excuess for no reserves theres plenty of national league riders willing to take there chance even if they dont score they learn how much they have to step up if they want to ride in the prem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Even if Glanz was available, he would not solve Bowden's problem of how he is going to replace injured reserve Robert Ksiezak.Ksiezak looks as though he is going to be sidelined for a considerable amount of time after apparently breaking an ankle while guest-riding for Berwick. Scans are still being carried out on the injury, although doctors have told Ksiezak they are pretty certain the heavily-bruised ankle is broken. Ksiezak, however, has the lowest average – the number of points a rider is expected to win during a meeting – of any of the Plymouth team. Regulations insist Bowden has to bring a guest rider with the same average into the team – and there aren't any available. The Devils' chairman said: "My main problem is there are no riders available to bring into the team. "I've gone through a list of Premier League riders, but there's nobody available with an average as low as Robert. "The difficulty is everybody is riding tonight and of course we're going to have the same problem tomorrow night. "I'm now going through a list of National League riders, but nothing is really jumping out at me." Bowden may be forced to use the rider replacement facility, where Ksiezak's team-mates James Holder and Ben Reade would ride extra races to fill in for him. Plymouth have delayed naming their team for tonight's meeting. The guy is re-writing the rulebook. So he thinks he can have a guest, but there are none so he's going to have to use a NL rider but if there are no NL riders two other riders can replace him? No. He HAS to use a NL rider for a missing number 7, he has no other choice. No wonder the club is up rubbish creek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 The guy is re-writing the rulebook. So he thinks he can have a guest, but there are none so he's going to have to use a NL rider but if there are no NL riders two other riders can replace him? No. He HAS to use a NL rider for a missing number 7, he has no other choice. Â No wonder the club is up rubbish creek. This looks like a Newport stuation all over again unfortunately,shame that such a well supported club has so many internal problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Should the BSPA not be looking in to this? Â If things are so bad at Plymouth then I would have thought some action was required by the Ruling Body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Should the BSPA not be looking in to this? Â If things are so bad at Plymouth then I would have thought some action was required by the Ruling Body? Â The action they should have taken was back in November 2011, by not issuing Bowden a promoters licence. Â Hopefully they have learned their lesson and 2012 will be different, if no one else takes over, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 The action they should have taken was back in November 2011, by not issuing Bowden a promoters licence. Â Hopefully they have learned their lesson and 2012 will be different, if no one else takes over, of course. Â Easy to say, but as Mike Bowden will currently hold the rights to stage speedway at the Plymouth facility, were the BSPA to just withdraw (or withold) his licence there would be no speedway at Plymouth, and the Devils would join the Wasps in the PL history books. Â The BSPA cannot just say "Move over Mike, we've got this other guy here who wants to try his luck at your track". Â To effect any change, Mike will require to sell his promoting rights, lease, etc, etc, to any prospective buyer. Â Who would themselves have to then prove to the BSPA they were sufficiently qualified, financially secure and experienced in running speedway meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Easy to say, but as Mike Bowden will currently hold the rights to stage speedway at the Plymouth facility, were the BSPA to just withdraw (or withold) his licence there would be no speedway at Plymouth, and the Devils would join the Wasps in the PL history books. Â The BSPA cannot just say "Move over Mike, we've got this other guy here who wants to try his luck at your track". Â To effect any change, Mike will require to sell his promoting rights, lease, etc, etc, to any prospective buyer. Â Who would themselves have to then prove to the BSPA they were sufficiently qualified, financially secure and experienced in running speedway meetings. Pity then that the BSPA didn`t bother with the last line when Bowden applied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Should the BSPA not be looking in to this? Â If things are so bad at Plymouth then I would have thought some action was required by the Ruling Body? Â I think the BSPA are hoping like everyone that the rumours about a take over are correct (or maybe they already know). As I've mentioned before the man in charge of this our club is destroying it and he doesn't give a toss. The day he leaves I hope he's given a restraining order banning him from being within 5 miles of any speedway track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterBeauregarde Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Mikeyt well said I could not agree more. Banning him from the SBA will make up for all of the pain and heartache the Plymouth fans have to go through with Bowden at the helm! Many people have been banned from the SBA because they dont agree with the Promotion and many more are waiting to come back the day he leaves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 So perhaps everyone is beginning to appreciate the situation that we Devils supporters have had to endure. I can only imagine what nonsense the riders may or may not have experienced, but I'm not in a position to say. Â Suffice it to say that we find ourselves desperately wanting rid of the current promotion but cr&pping ourselves that this will mean an end to speedway in Plymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 So perhaps everyone is beginning to appreciate the situation that we Devils supporters have had to endure. I can only imagine what nonsense the riders may or may not have experienced, but I'm not in a position to say. Â Suffice it to say that we find ourselves desperately wanting rid of the current promotion but cr&pping ourselves that this will mean an end to speedway in Plymouth theres more than plymouth fans thinking the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) If there is an offer on the table for the promoting rights at Plymouth then I would strongly advise Mr. Bowden to accept the offer because if not he could end up like the mallets at Newport, no speedway no stadia, no money and countless creditors wanting payment. Â I have spoken to a number of Plymouth riders over the last few weeks and all have said that they are owed money by the promotion. Â I see on the BSPA site that Bowden says that Glanz is withholding his services and that he is hoping to get a facility to cover him, the BSPA should refuse this as it not the riders fault that he is unable to afford to ride the fault lies with the promotion for not paying what the rider is owed. Edited August 10, 2012 by starshooter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Didn't one of the Plymouth riders stop being Captain? Perhaps he refused to sign that the riders had been paid... Whoever is Captain now is doing the rest of the riders a disservice by signing that piece of paper - though I guess he's in an almost impossible situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I hear the Dark Lord of Dorset is looming...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 As long as he's paying the standard BSPA rates, that's all they need, the rest of the contract meanss diddly squat to the BSPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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