Plymouth 2012

[Roger MARTIN]

Wasn't impressed with Fisher at the SBA last week anyway, not in the same class has Barker around the SBA, he don't like coming second, and if he don't gate he don't win, would not like to see him go, but if Bowden don't pay the people who work for him then i don't blame him for leaving, the sooner Bowden goes the better, i did have a word with Seemond last week at the SBA before the meeting, he came up to me and we had a long chat, but it would be wrong for me to put on this site what he told me in confidence, but all i can say is if things go well Bowden will be gone, and not before time.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Devildodger

[semion]

So Stephens told you in confidence that Bowden is on his way out ? Handy old boy you are to keep a secret.

[skippy]

theres more rumours going round plymouth than there is riders

[The White Knight]

Let's hope that this can be sorted soon - there is nothing like Rumours for wrecking a Club. They create unrest and dissatisfaction. Very destructive.

[Roger MARTIN]

So Stephens told you in confidence that Bowden is on his way out ? Handy old boy you are to keep a secret.

 

No he didn't tell me in confidence Bowden was on his way out, you have to be a Plymouth supporter and stupid like you not to know that, for Plymouth Speedway to carry on Bowden must go, the part that i was told in confidence goes much further than that, the place is a dump and needs sorting, getting Bowden out is only the start, no secret in that, i knew that long before last friday.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Devildodger

[semion]

No he didn't tell me in confidence Bowden was on his way out, you have to be a Plymouth supporter and stupid like you not to know that, for Plymouth Speedway to carry on Bowden must go, the part that i was told in confidence goes much further than that, the place is a dump and needs sorting, getting Bowden out is only the start, no secret in that, i knew that long before last friday.

 

Please attack the post by all means. Leave the personal insults out. Your comment that you were talking to Stephens and if all things go well then Boweden is gone, surely that would suggest that this was part of this confidential conversation ?

Edited August 7, 2012 by semion

[Greg]

Surely Plymouth cant change more riders.

[Roger MARTIN]

Please attack the post by all means. Leave the personal insults out. Your comment that you were talking to Stephens and if all things go well then Boweden is gone, surely that would suggest that this was part of this confidential conversation ?

 

Sorry about that but don't call me old boy when you don't know me, last friday at the sba the talk about Bowden leaving wasn't any part of the conversation i had with Seemond, that about Bowden was everywhere on friday, so i wouldn't say it was any secret, if you wasn't there then maybe you could say it was a part of the conversation, but i would not have said it if it was ok.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Devildodger

[seanmuffe]

So about that but don't call me old boy when you don't know me, last friday at the sba the talk about Bowden leaving wasn't any part of the conversation i had with Seemond, that about Bowden was everywhere on friday, so i wouldn't say it was any secret, if you wasn't there then maybe you could say it was a part of the conversation, but i would not have said it if it was ok.

 

It was the name dropping bit that was the problem not the content.......reliable source would be sufficient..........even though that also raises more questions than answers.

[torpointfanatic22]

I would be surprised if Seemond and Mark were involved in the promoting but wouldn't rule it out. I like many others have heard several rumours, what you have to say is that with the amount of possibilities being mentioned hopefully something will happen soon.

 

If Ryan has gone I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, he has never struck me as someone who would take the sort of antics that Bowden has displayed over the years and I was actually got surprised he signed in the first place.

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I believe Bowden is trying to destroy Plymouth Speedway before he goes, which in my opinion is inevitable. I don't think he could stand to watch someone else making the money he has over the years.

 

I have a feeling this could get worse before it gets better...

[greyhoundp]

I have always had a soft spot for Plymouth, and it is sad to read of the goings on down there, allegedly riders being owed money, others not being paid in full, riders asked to take pay cuts, and public rows between riders and the promotion, all in all not a happy camp by the sounds of it, I think the BSPA need to step in before things get worse, just to get the Team/Club through the season, and then review matters during the close season.

 

So much of what is happening reminds me of a certain welsh Team over the years, When they returned they had fantastic crowds, then they slowly dwindled over the years, never to return, and in the end we all know what happened there just prior to the beginning of this season, heaven forbid this happening to Plymouth.

 

Somehow or other, i believe there should be a supporter led protest, not by staying away, but get behind the Team, support the riders, and contact the BSPA, I and most of the Speedway fraternity dont want to lose another Team/Track.

Edited August 7, 2012 by greyhoundp

[Massey Harris]

Will the last one out please pull ******* trousers up!

[Roger MARTIN]

I would be surprised if Seemond and Mark were involved in the promoting but wouldn't rule it out. I like many others have heard several rumours, what you have to say is that with the amount of possibilities being mentioned hopefully something will happen soon.

 

If Ryan has gone I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, he has never struck me as someone who would take the sort of antics that Bowden has displayed over the years and I was actually got surprised he signed in the first place.

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I believe Bowden is trying to destroy Plymouth Speedway before he goes, which in my opinion is inevitable. I don't think he could stand to watch someone else making the money he has over the years.

 

I have a feeling this could get worse before it gets better...

 

I agree with you about this Mike, i think what you have said about Bowden is just about right.

[Roger MARTIN]

Just had a personal message from bads1971 saying whoever you are you need to stop putting stuff on the forum about Mike, i think she means dad, she says what you have heard is not true, the place isn't a dump like you say, Mike (dad) isn't going anywhere, your cosy chats with Seemond as if, if you don't like the way speedway is being run don't go simple as, you hide behind a name Devildogger, it's Devildodger, and my real name is Roger Martin, and i stand by everything i have said, babs1971 whoever you are.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Devildodger

[Whisperer]

Just had a personal message from bads1971 saying whoever you are you need to stop putting stuff on the forum about Mike, i think she means dad, she says what you have heard is not true, the place isn't a dump like you say, Mike (dad) isn't going anywhere, your cosy chats with Seemond as if, if you don't like the way speedway is being run don't go simple as, you hide behind a name Devildogger, it's Devildodger, and my real name is Roger Martin, and i stand by everything i have said, babs1971 whoever you are.

 

Did she mention the trouser dropping incident?

[Roger MARTIN]

Did she mention the trouser dropping incident?

 

No but i think the barmaid would know about it

[Backless]

Devildogger WOULD be a good name for Mike(Dad) though allegedly

[seanmuffe]

Devildogger WOULD be a good name for Mike(Dad) though allegedly

 

not sure there's room in those toilets!!!

[Roger MARTIN]

Devildogger WOULD be a good name for Mike(Dad) though allegedly

 

That would be one of many names you could call Mike (Dad) , but Devildogger seems good to me, i think he must be a dog lover

 

not sure there's room in those toilets!!!

 

I think the medical room is a little bigger

[Roger MARTIN]

Devils rider Glanz out in the cold after injury

 

 

 

PLYMOUTH Devils boss Mike Bowden has admitted Dane Nicki Glanz is unlikely to return to the St Boniface Arena in the near future.

Glanz, who disappeared from the Plymouth line-up earlier in the season after sustaining an injury, has not been back since.

The Dane was supposed to be recuperating in his own country, but is now locked in a contract wrangle with the Devils.

His decision to stay put in Denmark is apparently the result of Plymouth's decision to cut riders' wages so the club stay afloat.

Chairman and promoter Mike Bowden has been increasingly concerned about falling crowd numbers caused, for the most part, by poor weather.

Bowden said: "It is true to say that the club is in a contractual dispute with Nicki.

"I don't know what he's doing, because I haven't spoken to him, but I'm not sure we'd have him back anyway."

Glanz is highly unlikely to solve his dispute with the Devils before tonight's Premier League meeting away to Ipswich Witches (7.30).

The Dane, unless the attitude of both parties thaws rapidly overnight, can also safely be ruled out of tomorrow's league meeting with Workington at the St Boniface Arena (7.30pm).

Even if Glanz was available, he would not solve Bowden's problem of how he is going to replace injured reserve Robert Ksiezak.

Ksiezak looks as though he is going to be sidelined for a considerable amount of time after apparently breaking an ankle while guest-riding for Berwick.

Scans are still being carried out on the injury, although doctors have told Ksiezak they are pretty certain the heavily-bruised ankle is broken.

Ksiezak, however, has the lowest average – the number of points a rider is expected to win during a meeting – of any of the Plymouth team.

Regulations insist Bowden has to bring a guest rider with the same average into the team – and there aren't any available.

The Devils' chairman said: "My main problem is there are no riders available to bring into the team.

"I've gone through a list of Premier League riders, but there's nobody available with an average as low as Robert.

"The difficulty is everybody is riding tonight and of course we're going to have the same problem tomorrow night.

"I'm now going through a list of National League riders, but nothing is really jumping out at me."

Bowden may be forced to use the rider replacement facility, where Ksiezak's team-mates James Holder and Ben Reade would ride extra races to fill in for him.

Plymouth have delayed naming their team for tonight's meeting.

 

Read this report in the local Plymouth paper today, and i give credit to Nicki Glanz for sticking it to Bowden, i don't blame the lad for not coming back, there is only one person who isn't taking a pay cut out of this, and we all know who, he's taking it all, and we all know why the support is dropping, nothing to do with the weather.

Edited August 9, 2012 by Devildodger