Plymouth 2012

[english roundabout]

Thanks pastyboy. Contemplating the trip.

[Roger MARTIN]

According to the local Paper Mike Bowden is in talks with Robert Ksiesak, where he will fit in i don't know, he has a CMA of 4.61 and the only rider he can take the place of is James Holder, how that will help the real problem in the reserve's i don't know.

Edited May 28, 2012 by Devildodger

[greyhoundp]

Your reserves problem, or should i say reserve problem ie Franchetti 2 riders in the NL who have really come on this year are Ben Read and Tom Young, Tom is practically unrecognisable from last year, are they ready for the PL?, well they certainly wouldnt allow a rider to fall, and then catch and beat them that really should be the end when that happens.

[keyham]

According to the local Paper Mike Bowden is in talks with Robert Ksiesak, where he will fit in i don't know, he has a CMA of 4.61 and the only rider he can take the place of is James Holder, how that will help the real problem in the reserve's i don't know.

 

Robert Ksiesak has a CMA of 3.56 but still does not change the situation. ISSUE 10 - Effective immediately (Issued on 24-05-12)

Edited May 28, 2012 by keyham

[Roger MARTIN]

Cheers Dave i was looking at his starting CMA, he must be a very good rider to be released by Glasgow

Edited May 28, 2012 by Devildodger

[greyhoundp]

Ksiesak alone may not change the situation, but what about a double change for JH & GF what points would that give you ?, for instance RK for JH would it leave you with another 3+ rider or still only a 3 pointer.

 

Looking at Ksiezaks average and his australian form,it seems to me he and JH are about the same ability, i dont see the need to make change for changes sake, but maybe sacrificing JH to get a higher average reserve may be the way to go, or indeed perhaps RK would be that reserve.

Edited May 28, 2012 by greyhoundp

[Roger MARTIN]

Ksiesak alone may not change the situation, but what about a double change for JH & GF what points would that give you ?, for instance RK for JH would it leave you with another 3+ rider or still only a 3 pointer.

 

Looking at Ksiezaks average and his australian form,it seems to me he and JH are about the same ability, i dont see the need to make change for changes sake, but maybe sacrificing JH to get a higher average reserve may be the way to go, or indeed perhaps RK would be that reserve.

 

Very good point, we have been focusing on Franchetti, but when you look at Holder he hasn't been much better, my feelings are that Bowden could bring in any two riders and they would not do any worse than Holder and Franchetti, i don't think just bringing in a rider for Franchetti will solve the problem, i think the only way to even try to do that Bowden would need to drop three riders,

 

Gathercole.

Holder.

and Franchetti.

 

Then pool the points from them, to replace Holder and Franchetti you would only get like for like, yes the riders coming in would not do any worse, but the two riders coming are not on the same CMA for nothing, but Franchetti will go.

Edited May 28, 2012 by Devildodger

[Greg]

Sees like alot of the Plymouth fans after yesterday want to see Holder and Franchetti given the Boot i think Holder is doing well to be far i think it been a long time coming for Franchetti.

[greyhoundp]

Just checking what i said earlier about NL prospects, Ben Reade and Tom Young, just to say Tom has beaten both Richie Worall and Adam Roynon at Scunthorpe this year, that in itself is NO mean feat, is he ready for the PL? well he wont be any worse than Franchetti.

[on the knee]

Ben or Tom are not anywhere near pl standard yet & I mean that with no disrespect as the league is getting harder & harder year by year,it will be an Scotland based Aussie that gets the spot.

[Lewis]

Your reserves problem, or should i say reserve problem ie Franchetti 2 riders in the NL who have really come on this year are Ben Read and Tom Young, Tom is practically unrecognisable from last year, are they ready for the PL?, well they certainly wouldnt allow a rider to fall, and then catch and beat them that really should be the end when that happens.

 

Im hoping Tom gets a ride for Scunny in the PL next season, he is coming on leaps & bounds already, I think he could just about make it now but will be more assured if he gets a little more experience.

[torpointfanatic22]

According to the local Paper Mike Bowden is in talks with Robert Ksiesak, where he will fit in i don't know, he has a CMA of 4.61 and the only rider he can take the place of is James Holder, how that will help the real problem in the reserve's i don't know.

 

Robert's average is 3.32. Without Gino included Plymouth's latest averages add up to 38.55 leaving 3.95 to replace him with. So Robert can replace Gino not just Holder.

 

Very good point, we have been focusing on Franchetti, but when you look at Holder he hasn't been much better, my feelings are that Bowden could bring in any two riders and they would not do any worse than Holder and Franchetti, i don't think just bringing in a rider for Franchetti will solve the problem, i think the only way to even try to do that Bowden would need to drop three riders,

 

Gathercole.

Holder.

and Franchetti.

 

Then pool the points from them, to replace Holder and Franchetti you would only get like for like, yes the riders coming in would not do any worse, but the two riders coming are not on the same CMA for nothing, but Franchetti will go.

 

There is absolutely no logical reasoning behind dropping Cory in my opinion. You wont get much better than him on his average and I do feel people are being very harsh on James.

Edited May 28, 2012 by Mikeyt

[Dekker]

According to the local Paper Mike Bowden is in talks with Robert Ksiesak, where he will fit in i don't know, he has a CMA of 4.61 and the only rider he can take the place of is James Holder, how that will help the real problem in the reserve's i don't know.

he is just as bad as holder........

[torpointfanatic22]

Franchetti out and Ksiezak in is confirmed in this mornings local rag. Don't think it will make that much difference but he can't do any worse.

[Roger MARTIN]

Ricky kling will be questing for Ben Barker on friday, Barker will be riding in a World GP Qualifier in Austria.

[montie]

Ben or Tom are not anywhere near pl standard yet & I mean that with no disrespect as the league is getting harder & harder year by year,it will be an Scotland based Aussie that gets the spot.

 

Have you seen him ride this year??

[Roger MARTIN]

Robert's average is 3.32. Without Gino included Plymouth's latest averages add up to 38.55 leaving 3.95 to replace him with. So Robert can replace Gino not just Holder.

 

 

 

There is absolutely no logical reasoning behind dropping Cory in my opinion. You wont get much better than him on his average and I do feel people are being very harsh on James.

 

So your happy with the way James Holder is riding, in the local rag Mike Bowden say's that there could be more change's, so Bowden isn't happy with someone else. and i think that could be James, you can only go by what a rider does on the track, you may think people are being very harsh, but i feel he should be doing better.

[SCB]

Franchetti out and Ksiezak in is confirmed in this mornings local rag. Don't think it will make that much difference but he can't do any worse.

I can see the logic in this one unlike some. Bob Smith (or Robert Ksiezak to most - Ksiezak is Polish for Smith) has in the past been a 5-6 point PL second string, he even had a handful of outings for Coventry in the EL. OK he's struggled for 3.xx this season but he's been out a year injured. Potentially given a run in a team he could get back even half way to his best, which is a 4.5 reserve/second string. Franchetti has never shown anything to suggest he is anything but a 3 point PL rider.

 

As for Holder, he is a 4.5 reserve, to expect him to be doing any more thna he currently is seems a little harsh to me. That said, I'd never have signed him in the first place but having signed him it would be unfair to drop him for doing what most would expect.

 

Gathercole - always been inconsitent, always will be. When he's good he can be immense but when he's bad he can be very bad. There no better rider out there on a 6-7 point average though. Maybe try swapping him and the Fisher over so he doesn't have to cope with heat 13, and parnter him with Kurtz so he doesn't have the pressure on him to win each heat as he knows Todd should get the 3rd at least - at present he has to win heats just for 3-3's most of the time.

[crescent girl]

I can see the logic in this one unlike some. Bob Smith (or Robert Ksiezak to most - Ksiezak is Polish for Smith)

 

Both in Scotland and Australia, he is usually (and affectionately) known by all as Bobby K.

 

You'll find he's a good gater and a really nice guy.

[Greg]

Robert a cracking guy will make a good signing once he get sorted and he has already said about move down to the Plymouth area .