Paulco Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) We know Ben and Ryan are to good to ride in the PL, but it is there choice to do so, i think with Ben it is to do with logistics, riding for Plymouth it allows his family to come up from Cornwall to watch him, we all know both of the lads are to good for the PL, but you won't see any Plymouth supporter moaning about it, only some EL supporters who think he should ride in that league and that league only, oh and that pratt Pearson who we all know don't know what he is talking about, but any rider with an over 9pt cma should not be riding in the PL, but they do. You wont hear any true speedway supporter moaning about it either . How many extra bodies will Barker and Fisher add on to attendances up and down the country this season ? Quite a few i would imagine . I'm just glad my team has drew Plymouth in the cup , which gives us an extra chance to see them in action . Edited March 13, 2012 by Paulco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 What in gods name are you on about?  It's an opinion, or is it to far over you head you can't understand it.  I'd say it's more to do with the excellent money he earns at PL level. He's pretty much guaranteed £1000 minimum per match.  So having his family come and watch him didn't come into it mike, so why didn't Lanham not come down, that wasn't to do with the money, yes Ben earn's good money, but he has to earn it, it's not a matter of just going on the track, Mike Bowden don't give money away unless you work for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 It's an opinion, or is it to far over you head you can't understand it. Â Â Â So having his family come and watch him didn't come into it mike, so why didn't Lanham not come down, that wasn't to do with the money, yes Ben earn's good money, but he has to earn it, it's not a matter of just going on the track, Mike Bowden don't give money away unless you work for it. bens family watch most of his meetings in uk and ben just wants to ride his bike as much as possible more rides=more money not rocket science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 bens family watch most of his meetings in uk and ben just wants to ride his bike as much as possible more rides=more money not rocket science  Your right lewy, if he could he would ride in the NL, he just loves the sport, and the money comes in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 So having his family come and watch him didn't come into it mike, so why didn't Lanham not come down, that wasn't to do with the money, yes Ben earn's good money, but he has to earn it, it's not a matter of just going on the track, Mike Bowden don't give money away unless you work for it.  I'd be very surprised if that was the case, Ben wouldn't be riding for Plymouth on £40 a point just so his family could watch him would he. He's riding for Plymouth because the rules allow it and he's on good money. The fact that it's the nearest track to his family I would think is somewhat down the order of his priorities. Lanham allegedly didn't come down because he felt the travel was too far for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) I'd be very surprised if that was the case, Ben wouldn't be riding for Plymouth on £40 a point just so his family could watch him would he. He's riding for Plymouth because the rules allow it and he's on good money. The fact that it's the nearest track to his family I would think is somewhat down the order of his priorities. Lanham allegedly didn't come down because he felt the travel was too far for him.  So if Ben had been offered more money to ride for Berwick he would have gone to them, i think the location of Plymouth had everything to do with him coming to ride for the Devils, no matter what team Ben would turned out for in the PL he would be offered very good money, so saying he would get £40 a point from anyone just so his family could watch him you know would never happen, some people mite think Mike Bowden is stupid, well he aint that stupid, he knew how much Ben would cost, and if he get's £100 a point, the lads worth it. Edited March 14, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovey Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'd be very surprised if that was the case, Ben wouldn't be riding for Plymouth on £40 a point just so his family could watch him would he. He's riding for Plymouth because the rules allow it and he's on good money. The fact that it's the nearest track to his family I would think is somewhat down the order of his priorities. Lanham allegedly didn't come down because he felt the travel was too far for him.  It was clear that Barker was a key figure in getting PL status for Plymouth - a local lad done good who could an ambassador for the sport in the area. I don't think he would have ridden for any other PL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 It was clear that Barker was a key figure in getting PL status for Plymouth - a local lad done good who could an ambassador for the sport in the area. I don't think he would have ridden for any other PL club. Â I agree Lovey, on one of the DVD's i have he says that riding for Plymouth is great because it will be easy for his family to come and watch him, not just his mum and dad, yes his mum and dad probably go and watch him in most of his meeting's, but to say that having Plymouth being so near to where his family lives did not come into him riding for the Devil's, i can't see it, i think it's everything to do with it, and like you say i don't think he would have ridden for any other PL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Â Â I agree Lovey, on one of the DVD's i have he says that riding for Plymouth is great because it will be easy for his family to come and watch him, not just his mum and dad, yes his mum and dad probably go and watch him in most of his meeting's, but to say that having Plymouth being so near to where his family lives did not come into him riding for the Devil's, i can't see it, i think it's everything to do with it, and like you say i don't think he would have ridden for any other PL club. Well he did ride for the Rebels and we're only another hour & half up the road. Edited March 14, 2012 by Willowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 It was clear that Barker was a key figure in getting PL status for Plymouth - a local lad done good who could an ambassador for the sport in the area. I don't think he would have ridden for any other PL club. Â The point I was trying to make was that the post I quoted implied Ben is riding for Plymouth mainly as it's close to his family so that they can go and watch. The point I'm making is if the deal wasn't right financially he probably wouldn't have ridden for Plymouth regardless of it being close to his family so they can watch. Â I never stated Ben would ride for another PL club but had Plymouth not offered him a deal this year he may well have. On the other hand he may have gone full time EL. It's all totally irrelevant now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The point I was trying to make was that the post I quoted implied Ben is riding for Plymouth mainly as it's close to his family so that they can go and watch. The point I'm making is if the deal wasn't right financially he probably wouldn't have ridden for Plymouth regardless of it being close to his family so they can watch. Â I never stated Ben would ride for another PL club but had Plymouth not offered him a deal this year he may well have. On the other hand he may have gone full time EL. It's all totally irrelevant now anyway. Â Spot on mike it's all irrelevant now, i just hope we get more luck than we did last year with injuries in the first few meeting, Ipswich will already be looking for a rider i think after Poole injured his arm in the the meeting with Rye House on thursday, and the meeting at Redcar ended early after Kus injured himself in heat 15, so keeping rider's safe in the first few meeting will do for me, fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 It was a bad night at Ippo, looks as if Chris Neath could also be out for most of the year with operations needed to the neck and back areas. I am sure all our thoughts will be with all who were injured so badly at Ipswich on Thursday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Went to the press and practice yesterday at the SBA, all the lads looked very quick apart from Boxhall who did not turn up, but on the good side and talking to people in the know he has been bined and Mike Bowden is in contact with Cory Gathercole with a view to singning him, so we will just have to wait on that one, but it will be better to have a rider not turn up now than into the season, why he was ever considered for a team place with his past record is a mystery to me and a few other Plymouth supporters. Edited March 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Went to the press and practice yesterday at the SBA, all the lads looked very quick apart from Boxhall who did not turn up, but on the good side and talking to people in the know he has been bined and Mike Bowden is in contact with Cory Gathercole with a view to singning him, so we will just have to wait on that one, but it will be better to have a rider not turn up now than into the season, why he was ever considered for a team place with his past record is a mystery to me and a few other Plymouth supporters. Â If that is the case I hope Mr Bowden gets the deal sorted quickly as with Ipswich on the hunt for two riders as well as the various injuries suffered to Rye, Redcar and Scunny, Gathercole may be in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat2 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 its funny no one wanted cory ,now he is in demand ,might need him back at the ota if jason cant get his visa sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 If that is the case I hope Mr Bowden gets the deal sorted quickly as with Ipswich on the hunt for two riders as well as the various injuries suffered to Rye, Redcar and Scunny, Gathercole may be in demand. Â The person who told me mike said Mike Bowden had been on the phone to him but he was on the way back from the Airport at the time, so would get in contact when he got home, i think he is based in Exeter so it would be a good move for him coming to Plymouth, so we will have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 The person who told me mike said Mike Bowden had been on the phone to him but he was on the way back from the Airport at the time, so would get in contact when he got home, i think he is based in Exeter so it would be a good move for him coming to Plymouth, so we will have to wait and see. crazy to think a rider of corys calibre based in exeter had not been targetted before or he may of been and already turned down plymouth in favour of newport would be an excellent signing in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) crazy to think a rider of corys calibre based in exeter had not been targetted before or he may of been and already turned down plymouth in favour of newport would be an excellent signing in my opinion  Lewy to even think to sign a rider so far away when there is one just up the road is just tells you the there was no thinking behind it, it would be a good move for both rider and club, but when has Mike Bowden look at that, i would think coming down from from Ipswich everyweek the last thing you would want is to ride in a speedway meeting, coming from Exeter thats a different matter, my only concern is like mike said we wont be the only team after him, but like you say, it would be an excellent signing. Edited March 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 The person who told me mike said Mike Bowden had been on the phone to him but he was on the way back from the Airport at the time, so would get in contact when he got home, i think he is based in Exeter so it would be a good move for him coming to Plymouth, so we will have to wait and see. Â Im pretty sure he lives in Swindon with his girlfriend, but thats close enough in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Im pretty sure he lives in Swindon with his girlfriend, but thats close enough in my book  You could be right mike, i wasn't sure the person who told me said Exeter or Swindon, but like you say it's close enough, closer than Ipswich thats for sure, also good to see Matt bates and Tim Webster having a few laps yesterday to, but Ryan Fisher looked very tidy yesterday, had one lap and away he went, someone timed Nicki over four laps and he did a 51.4, i know he wasn't racing anyone but he looked very quick to me, along with Gino to. Edited March 18, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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