Roger MARTIN Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Some of the best races seen at the SBA is when Ben don't gate, if he gates it's all over, it's takes a good rider to beat him and Seb Alden did well, but has the season went on he was near unbeatable, and could control a race at will, it didn't matter want line he was on, watching him and Ricky Wells at the back end of the season was PL speedway at his best, and worth the £12 alone, i think this year with Ryan in the team it could be even better, i think changes will be made during the season, but i think most teams will do that anyway, like mike said its all about making the right changes at the right time, and bringing in the right riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) I think its great Ben is doing another year in the PL. He was magnificent in both matches I saw at the SBA unbeaten in both meetings. Certainly kept the intrest up for the Plymouth fans paticularly early doors when wins were hard to come by. Edited March 7, 2012 by RobinH88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Your right Robin, even when the team were getting beat early in the year Ben was banging the maximums in, and he showed no respect to the very tricky SBA track, that most riders don't find very easy to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Have you been to Plymouth ? In my experience gating is not the be all and end all there - in fact, I'd say its one of the best racing tracks in the country and some of Barker's rides from the back there last year were absolutely fantastic. A good example is to be found on the Plymouth v Edinburgh thread where Barker passess and re-passes Wolbert - definitely no slouch himself. He also averaged over 11pts a match there last season, so the number of opposition riders who actually beat him was very small indeed and there's no reason why a rider of Fisher's quality shouldn't be the same. Yes, many times as my boy is at Plymouth Uniy but have only seen the SBA from the dual carriageway. Had a quick look at the last few meeting and notably Alden, Robson and Lemo took points off him. All I was really suggesting is that Ben and Ryan will slip up in the odd races especially against the top men from the top teams in the league, not often but they obviously will. Will have to see about coming down when the Rebels are there. Not long now so enjoy it when it comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Yes, many times as my boy is at Plymouth Uniy but have only seen the SBA from the dual carriageway. Had a quick look at the last few meeting and notably Alden, Robson and Lemo took points off him. All I was really suggesting is that Ben and Ryan will slip up in the odd races especially against the top men from the top teams in the league, not often but they obviously will. Will have to see about coming down when the Rebels are there. Not long now so enjoy it when it comes. Your right both will get beat in the odd race, like they will beat top riders on there track, but we will see some great racing at the SBA this year from Ben and Ryan and hopefully the rest of the team to, you have to say that people who said that the track at the SBA would never be any good for PL racing were wrong, we have seen some great racing, from some great riders that attack the track, thats the key with the SBA something we never saw in the NL, most riders when they came down never got past the first bend, to see Lemon, Robson and Alden attack the track was a great to watch. Edited March 7, 2012 by Devildodger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english roundabout Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Ben barker is brilliant to watch at swindon too. He is one of the most exciting riders I have seen in recent times at blunsdon. If I recall correctly he was the last visiting rider to pass leigh adams at blunsdon. A very rare thing. Nice to know we have young english riders coming through who can ride both small and big tracks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 It will be interesting to see how Ben and Ryan get on in the Ben Fund meeting, i just hope they both do well and keep safe in the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well done Ben on winning the Ben Fund meeting, but well done both Ben and Ryan, can't wait to see them on saturday at the Plymouth press and practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english roundabout Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Have plymouth got team kevlars this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bit suprised to see Ben win it considering it certainly was not a weak field. Not really sure why firiegn teams have not selected him, there loss. He's a grafter and I really hope he continues to get better. He's certainly got the confidence and I see him being Britain's No1 in 2 or 3 years Just my 2 pence worth Fisher will be ready by next Friday that is for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Have plymouth got team kevlars this year? No i don't think so, In the local sunday paper Mike Bowdens is asking if someone would like to help him run the club on a 50/50 split, if that is the case forking out for team kevlars will be way down on his shopping list, i think he is finding it very hard now to finance having riders like Ben and Ryan in one team, i think he now wishes he stayed in the NL, but i'm glad he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bit suprised to see Ben win it considering it certainly was not a weak field. He won it on merit, beating three Grand Prix riders in the process. He really is that good ... he (and Fisher, who also rode well) is far too good for the Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) We know Ben and Ryan are to good to ride in the PL, but it is there choice to do so, i think with Ben it is to do with logistics, riding for Plymouth it allows his family to come up from Cornwall to watch him, we all know both of the lads are to good for the PL, but you won't see any Plymouth supporter moaning about it, only some EL supporters who think he should ride in that league and that league only, oh and that pratt Pearson who we all know don't know what he is talking about, but any rider with an over 9pt cma should not be riding in the PL, but they do. Edited March 12, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blindman Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Ben and Ryan are good but to say they are too good for the PL is going a bit far, if they were they would both sport a 12.00 PL Ave and neither of them do, they are both 9+.and are both beaten on a regular basis by other PL riders especially away from their respective home tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) The rules say they are not to good, so we have to abide by that, some of the rider's Ben beat in the meeting the weekend you would have to say are to good for the PL, if they were to ride in the PL we would say they are, but rider's like Ben beat them on a regular basis, especially away from their respective tracks, even the bests rider's from any league get beat away from home. If Ben and Ryan were reserves in the EL i would agree they are not, but Ben has a 6pt + average in the EL for Birmingham, where do you draw the line, i think when a rider is to good to ride at reserve in the EL, you have to draw it there, it's great that Ben is riding for Plymouth, and i will be there watching him everyweek, but in my opinion he is a cut above the PL, but he did make a very bad year for the team better with some great displays at the SBA. Edited March 13, 2012 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 We know Ben and Ryan are to good to ride in the PL, but it is there choice to do so, i think with Ben it is to do with logistics, riding for Plymouth it allows his family to come up from Cornwall to watch him, we all know both of the lads are to good for the PL, but you won't see any Plymouth supporter moaning about it, only some EL supporters who think he should ride in that league and that league only, oh and that pratt Pearson who we all know don't know what he is talking about, but any rider with an over 9pt cma should not be riding in the PL, but they do. Ben rejoined Plymouth because he wanted more rides than he would get just in the EL. He is so highly regarded in Birmingham that they adjusted the fixture lists to accommodate this! As I said, he won the Bonanza fair and square, beating Harris and Niki P and all the rest to do it. I hope he does avaerage 12 at Plymouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Ben rejoined Plymouth because he wanted more rides than he would get just in the EL. He is so highly regarded in Birmingham that they adjusted the fixture lists to accommodate this! As I said, he won the Bonanza fair and square, beating Harris and Niki P and all the rest to do it. I hope he does avaerage 12 at Plymouth So do i JJ, it won't be for the want of trying, he is the most determined rider i have ever seen, and a great lad to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The rules say they are not to good, so we have to abide by that, some of the rider's Ben beat in the meeting the weekend you would have to say are to good for the PL, if they were to ride in the PL we would say they are, but rider's like Ben beat them on a regular basis, especially away from their respective tracks, even the bests rider's from any league get beat away from home. If Ben and Ryan were reserves in the EL i would agree they are not, but Ben has a 6pt + average in the EL for Birmingham, where do you draw the line, i think when a rider is to good to ride at reserve in the EL, you have to draw it there, it's great that Ben is riding for Plymouth, and i will be there watching him everyweek, but in my opinion he is a cut above the PL, but he did make a very bad year for the team better with some great displays at the SBA. What in gods name are you on about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I disagree if Henning Bager and J Sedgman are at reserv, Bager would be a good reserve in the PL not the EL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 i think with Ben it is to do with logistics I'd say it's more to do with the excellent money he earns at PL level. He's pretty much guaranteed £1000 minimum per match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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