torpointfanatic22 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yes it is Chris. I was explaining a personal licence for someone to promote before. The rights to run speedway at a venue has a cost, agreed between the seller and buyer. Even if the venue isn't owned by the promoter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Even if the venue isn't owned by the promoter? Yes. It is the rights and the speedway licence and assets. There are not many clubs actually where they own the venue, most are rented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 You know with all the talk of good crowds down at Plymouth, i wouldnt be surprised to see Mike Bowden running an NL team for 2012, may be worthwhile running under an Exeter banner or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) You know with all the talk of good crowds down at Plymouth, i wouldnt be surprised to see Mike Bowden running an NL team for 2012, may be worthwhile running under an Exeter banner or something like that. WE DO NOT WANT HIM CONNECTED WITH EXETER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM, EXETER HAS A GOOD REPUTATION LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY. Here endeth the rant Edited January 18, 2012 by CMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 i dont think fan should get on the clubs back as u ask Oxford fan they would love speedway back but cant and plymouth still have speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 You know with all the talk of good crowds down at Plymouth, i wouldnt be surprised to see Mike Bowden running an NL team for 2012, may be worthwhile running under an Exeter banner or something like that. For a forwarding thinking promoter trying to develop assets for his senior side and prepared to accept a loss in doing so, maybe. Doesn't sound like Mr Bowden to me. i dont think fan should get on the clubs back as u ask Oxford fan they would love speedway back but cant and plymouth still have speedway. One thing about Plymouth is that it is profitable so Bowden isn't going to shut it down because he makes a lot of money from it. You also have to understand that while all fans complain about their promotions from time to time, aside from the fact that he is undeniably responsible for the Devils being existence I have never heard a good word about him from anyone, and the closer you get to Devon the more vitriolic the criticism becomes. It is possible that the club will shut down because of the loss of their lease but, from what I have heard, that is far more likely if he is still there at the point that it is renegotiated because along with everyone else he has apparently upset the college that own the site too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 For a forwarding thinking promoter trying to develop assets for his senior side and prepared to accept a loss in doing so, maybe. Doesn't sound like Mr Bowden to me. One thing about Plymouth is that it is profitable so Bowden isn't going to shut it down because he makes a lot of money from it. You also have to understand that while all fans complain about their promotions from time to time, aside from the fact that he is undeniably responsible for the Devils being existence I have never heard a good word about him from anyone, and the closer you get to Devon the more vitriolic the criticism becomes. It is possible that the club will shut down because of the loss of their lease but, from what I have heard, that is far more likely if he is still there at the point that it is renegotiated because along with everyone else he has apparently upset the college that own the site too. Now there’s a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yes. It is the rights and the speedway licence and assets. There are not many clubs actually where they own the venue, most are rented. I would go as high as 98% main man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 With the 2% being Leicester then I presume :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firesam Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 With the 2% being Leicester then I presume :-) And Newport own their Stadium it's just the ground that it's on they dont own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyham Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://www.speedwaystar.net/News.aspx?NewsID=107 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://www.speedways...aspx?NewsID=107 Be interesting to see how much he wants for it, but I doubt it will bear any relation to the valuation he himself has stated. I'll get hold of some of my contacts down there........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 And Newport own their Stadium it's just the ground that it's on they dont own. Somerset own their stadium and the ground it stands on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 So here we are at last, just what everyone has ranted and raved about........Plymouth Speedway is for sale. Where are you all now...............checking your bank accounts, by all intents and purposes the club should now be in one of the forum members capable hands Well I never, you can complain, moan and groan(it`s your right) but oh dear. Oh dear, do it dont just spout about wanting a new owner. Yes you can, but can you really be the one to make that difference Good luck Mike with your new track, hope it`s as successful as the one the Plymouth knockers nearly bought from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Somerset own their stadium and the ground it stands on Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Somerset own their stadium and the ground it stands on And a fair bit around it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin rebel Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 So here we are at last, just what everyone has ranted and raved about........Plymouth Speedway is for sale. Where are you all now...............checking your bank accounts, by all intents and purposes the club should now be in one of the forum members capable hands Well I never, you can complain, moan and groan(it`s your right) but oh dear. Oh dear, do it dont just spout about wanting a new owner. Yes you can, but can you really be the one to make that difference Good luck Mike with your new track, hope it`s as successful as the one the Plymouth knockers nearly bought from you is that you in your avitar pic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) So here we are at last, just what everyone has ranted and raved about........Plymouth Speedway is for sale. Where are you all now...............checking your bank accounts, by all intents and purposes the club should now be in one of the forum members capable hands Well I never, you can complain, moan and groan(it`s your right) but oh dear. Oh dear, do it dont just spout about wanting a new owner. Yes you can, but can you really be the one to make that difference Good luck Mike with your new track, hope it`s as successful as the one the Plymouth knockers nearly bought from you R*ger me with a prize winning leek: A Bowden fan. Why not start a fan club - in a year or so you might find someone else. I don't think anyone has stated that they want to buy the track. That does not prevent them from saying that they want someone else in charge at SBA if the circumstances justify it and here most would say they undoubtedly do. It remains to be seen whether Plymouth Speedway will be sold or if Bowden is just throwing his toys out. Word I have is that there are at least two groups interested. I also can't help but wonder how much he wants for it. Based upon his own confirmation that it makes a loss (he says in Speedy Star he pays to go to work), has only £4,000 in assets and a valuation of -£31k, how much do you think ? £5,000 ? £500 ? 50p ? Further word I have is £100k. I am no expert, but that sounds a little pricey given his assessment of the financial position. The thing is Mr Bowden has created an exceptional situation: he is despised by almost everyone in speedway. The BSPA have no time for him, and that was the principle reason why they were initially excluded from the PL. Read Tsunami's posts and he has apparently had the hard word about future conduct from them. As I have said before, I haven't heard a good word about him from anyone at SBA, so he has created a unique position where the BSPA and the fans are united in their views. I genuinely hope that new buyers for the track are found and that Plymouth go from strength to strength. There are some terrific people there and they deserve nothing less. Edited January 20, 2012 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 So here we are at last, just what everyone has ranted and raved about........Plymouth Speedway is for sale. Where are you all now...............checking your bank accounts, by all intents and purposes the club should now be in one of the forum members capable hands Well I never, you can complain, moan and groan(it`s your right) but oh dear. Oh dear, do it dont just spout about wanting a new owner. Yes you can, but can you really be the one to make that difference Good luck Mike with your new track, hope it`s as successful as the one the Plymouth knockers nearly bought from you Could this be Mr Bowden in drag or is it somone who works in the bar at the SBA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Could this be Mr Bowden in drag or is it somone who works in the bar at the SBA Only works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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