TMW Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) It has been a great success really and the merger has worked well for both, maybe next season just call them Scunthorpe/Sheffield with no nickname then it can be just listed as that all season instead of one or other. It has been a little trial and error. Hopefully these little creases can be ironed out next year and it can go onto be a big success story Edited September 21, 2011 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 It has been a great success really and the merger has worked well for both And has worked for the riders to,confirmed by Stefan Nilsson blasting around Owlerton on his first visit there Success is drawn from the results,in the play offs,could still win the league and riders improved no end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 The team is made up of mostly Scunny trained youngsters who's progressed at Scunny. Are sponsered by Local "Joton Company" and from day one have always been the "SAINTS".... TELL ME; " WHY DO THE NAME HAVE TO CHANGE?"........dont say to please Sheffield fans. As I can then say it upsets the Scunny fans! My feelings on this has nothing to do with how riders progress, they will whatever. ( these are determined riders ) At the end of the day I wish every one of these lads the best of luck and I'm sure they all have a fantastic future in the sport. Thats it from me.my point in the matter ends here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) The Belle Vue home leg has now been changed to the 28th September. Edited September 21, 2011 by MrMungo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Wow need to change the title of this thread now lol. Crazier and crazier....the BSPA fixture listings for October have Belle Vue v SCUNTHORPE SHEFFIELD v Belle Vue So which of all the previous naming explanations account for that??? The FARCE continues the Speedway Star fixtures list today has Belle Vue v SHEFFIELD Sheffield v Belle Vue Any chance of anyone from the following bodies clarifying who is racing against who and quoting the rules as to WHY? BSPA SHEFFIELD SCUNTHORPE BELLE VUE SPEEDWAY STAR Edited September 22, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Well according to the first press release to when the merger was announced- "I'm also pleased to announce that we will keep our own identities. We'll run under one umbrella, so the team will appear as Scunthorpe/Sheffield in the league table, but will race as Scunthorpe Saints at Scunthorpe and as Sheffield at Sheffield, probably resurrecting the Prowlers nickname. If, for argument's sake, the Isle of Wight come to Scunthorpe, it will be Scunthorpe who will go to the Isle of Wight for the return fixture but if Buxton go to Sheffield, then it will be Sheffield who go to Buxton”. Thanx for quoting the statement, coz it had reached a point where I began to think I'd imagined this! For in doing progs for a couple of the 'away' tracks I've been mindful all year of following this protocol set - let us remember - by the new clubs concerned.. In my personal opinion it would've been far more sensible to call the team Scunthorpe/Sheffield (or, er, Sheffield/Scunthorpe ) from the outset, but it was their own decision not anyone elses and they have that right...: it's their 'buiness(es)... I guess the logic then follows this into the play-offs where as the semi home leg's at Owlerton the away leg is branded as vs. Sheffield and then if they make the Final a similar approach would be taken; but surely at this juncture common sense (sadly lacking all year so far...) should prevail and they need to go with Sheffield/Scunthorpe (or vice versa). Next year how about trying a 'neutral' name to avoid this...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Thanx for quoting the statement, coz it had reached a point where I began to think I'd imagined this! For in doing progs for a couple of the 'away' tracks I've been mindful all year of following this protocol set - let us remember - by the new clubs concerned.. In my personal opinion it would've been far more sensible to call the team Scunthorpe/Sheffield (or, er, Sheffield/Scunthorpe ) from the outset, but it was their own decision not anyone elses and they have that right...: it's their 'buiness(es)... I guess the logic then follows this into the play-offs where as the semi home leg's at Owlerton the away leg is branded as vs. Sheffield and then if they make the Final a similar approach would be taken; but surely at this juncture common sense (sadly lacking all year so far...) should prevail and they need to go with Sheffield/Scunthorpe (or vice versa). Next year how about trying a 'neutral' name to avoid this...? You've certainly had a mind-bending task there Parsoles with the programmes. Regards the 'protocol' i point out again and ask for an explanation as to why, as mentioned in my previous post the BSPA have the ties as; Wow need to change the title of this thread now lol. Crazier and crazier....the BSPA fixture listings for October have Belle Vue v SCUNTHORPE SHEFFIELD v Belle Vue So which of all the previous naming explanations account for that??? Although amongst others the Speedway Star has; The FARCE continues the Speedway Star fixtures list today has Belle Vue v SHEFFIELD Sheffield v Belle Vue Any chance of anyone from the following bodies clarifying who is racing against who and quoting the rules as to WHY? BSPA SHEFFIELD SCUNTHORPE BELLE VUE SPEEDWAY STAR Incidentally regards the naming of the team, in order to avoid arguments of favouritism, one would really need to go by alphabetical order and have it as Scunthorpe/Sheffield. There is nothing wrong with using the dual name at ALL times and it is obviously of the greatest necessity to do so. To drop either Scunthorpe or Sheffield would be insane. Edited September 23, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 The team is made up of mostly Scunny trained youngsters who's progressed at Scunny. Are sponsered by Local "Joton Company" and from day one have always been the "SAINTS".... TELL ME; " WHY DO THE NAME HAVE TO CHANGE?"........dont say to please Sheffield fans. As I can then say it upsets the Scunny fans! My feelings on this has nothing to do with how riders progress, they will whatever. ( these are determined riders ) At the end of the day I wish every one of these lads the best of luck and I'm sure they all have a fantastic future in the sport. Thats it from me.my point in the matter ends here. According to the Sheffield v IOW and Sheffield v Belle Vue double-header programme, they are the 'Prowlers' and sponsored by the Window Centre when racing at Owlerton. Not sure id that clears anything up or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 According to the Sheffield v IOW and Sheffield v Belle Vue double-header programme, they are the 'Prowlers' and sponsored by the Window Centre when racing at Owlerton. Not sure id that clears anything up or not. Totally wasting your time, the lady is wearing blinkers on the subject and won't listen to any reasoning on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 My Opinion on the siuation is Who Cares what they are called as long as the team is successful at both venues and continues to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 My Opinion on the siuation is Who Cares what they are called as long as the team is successful at both venues and continues to win. Wouldn't it be idea to try and maximise support for the team?, i mean it's not exactly enticing for those who live in Scunthorpe to travel over to Belle Vue to support a team named Sheffield - or vice versa as it's yet to be determined who is actually racing. Varying publicity from; BSPA SHEFFIELD SCUNTHORPE BELLE VUE SPEEDWAY STAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Wouldn't it be idea to try and maximise support for the team?, i mean it's not exactly enticing for those who live in Scunthorpe to travel over to Belle Vue to support a team named Sheffield - or vice versa as it's yet to be determined who is actually racing. Varying publicity from; BSPA SHEFFIELD SCUNTHORPE BELLE VUE SPEEDWAY STAR Isn't the phrase 'sounding like a broken record' ? Edited September 24, 2011 by Hector Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Isn't the phrase 'sounding like a broken record' ? Be careful rolling your eyes that many times you'll detach a retina lol lol. Joking aside, absolutely no it isn't at all because there has NOT been a definitive answer yet. All i see is conflicting information from; BSPA SHEFFIELD SCUNTHORPE BELLE VUE SPEEDWAY STAR I've asked the question more than once because the fixture has not been clarified and explained as to who is racing under which name and why. People have tried to find info and offered replies, alas, various sources conflict. If you were promoting Belle Vue would you be happy that you are likely to miss out on gate receipts from Scunthorpe fans? You don't seem to have finished your sole sentence in your posting so i suppose it's too much to ask who you think is racing in each semi-final? Edited September 24, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 What ever they are called,this fixture look impossible to call,The colts seem to be the form team coming into the play offs,with the Mighty Saints a full strenght im hoping they can keep it close on wednesday No doubt Mildenhall and Stoke keeping a close eye on it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 All the best to the Colts for tonight. C'mon boys you can do this !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 You've certainly had a mind-bending task there Parsoles with the programmes. Indeed - and possibly two more to do with Scunthorpe/Sheffield or is it just plain Scunny(!) coming to 'Hackney' (at Lakeside) on Friday week and if they both negotiate their P/O semis a possible Championship Final at Stoke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackside Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 work , work , work wont make the meeting. anybody know if there are updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Updates http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bvc&thread=8873&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackside Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 work , work , work wont make the meeting. anybody know if there are updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 The Belle Vue home leg has now been changed to the 28th September. I'd be interested in your thoughts for the Scunfield line up tonight is this another 'one off'. You can't take anything away from the management but the question that needs to be asked is is it right? is the no. 8 slot there to be able to fieled a better rider at reserve or to give an inexperienced rider a chance at league racing. Ummmmm it is a poser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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