waco Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Sure Nelson has to come back when able too,,but what stops Hawkins being replaced by Melgren if so desired ,,,after that happens ,,,i dont see the problem...,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Sure Nelson has to come back when able too,,but what stops Hawkins being replaced by Melgren if so desired ,,,after that happens ,,,i dont see the problem...,,, Do we still have to be within the 42.5 limit if we redeclare? Edited April 10, 2012 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Sure Nelson has to come back when able too,,but what stops Hawkins being replaced by Melgren if so desired ,,,after that happens ,,,i dont see the problem...,,, nelson dosnt have a work permit so its not the same as replaceing a rider thats out injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovey Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Do we still have to be within the 42.5 limit if we redeclare? I think it depends who is replaced . Certainly Nelson could only replace Mellgren (assuming Mellgren is only a temporary replcement). If they then wanted to replace, e.g. Hawkins, then the rider must have a lower average than the rider being replaced OR must not take the team over 42.50. So: if the combined average is 44.00, then Mellgren could replace, e.g. Hawkins, if his Green Sheet is lower than that of Hawkins - ths bringing the team under 44.00. If the team average is 42.00, then Mellgren's average could be up to 0.50 higher than the rider he replaces - thus taking them up to 42.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think it depends who is replaced . Certainly Nelson could only replace Mellgren (assuming Mellgren is only a temporary replcement). If they then wanted to replace, e.g. Hawkins, then the rider must have a lower average than the rider being replaced OR must not take the team over 42.50. So: if the combined average is 44.00, then Mellgren could replace, e.g. Hawkins, if his Green Sheet is lower than that of Hawkins - ths bringing the team under 44.00. If the team average is 42.00, then Mellgren's average could be up to 0.50 higher than the rider he replaces - thus taking them up to 42.50. Wish I hadn't asked now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) I think as the original Rye team were declared virtually 2 points below the limit, we could redeclare with Mellgren replacing either Hawkins or Bowen and Gjedde replacing Neath and still be well within the 42.50 limit. In fact although my maths might not be all that, but at a quick tot up Mellgren could even come in place of Bunyan and we would still be inside the limit ??? Edited April 10, 2012 by bolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave1 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I think as the original Rye team were declared virtually 2 points below the limit, we could redeclare with Mellgren replacing either Hawkins or Bowen and Gjedde replacing Neath and still be well within the 42.50 limit. In fact although my maths might not be all that, but at a quick tot up Mellgren could even come in place of Bunyan and we would still be inside the limit ??? Bolly, I certainly hope the Rye promotion do not go on your thinking that Mellgren should replace Bunyan instead of Hawkins or Bowen as Buyan will clearly up his average whereas Hawkins & Bowen will struggle to do so. As i metioned before on another post Bunyan will score points both home & away, whilst Bowen & Hawkins will find it tough going away from Rye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Bolly, I certainly hope the Rye promotion do not go on your thinking that Mellgren should replace Bunyan instead of Hawkins or Bowen as Buyan will clearly up his average whereas Hawkins & Bowen will struggle to do so. As i metioned before on another post Bunyan will score points both home & away, whilst Bowen & Hawkins will find it tough going away from Rye. Big Dave I agree with you. I was just illustrating that as Rye were so far below the 42.50 limit that Mellgren could come into to the team for virtually anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 have to say that things are not always as they seem -- the same thing applies as last year apparently - I have since discovered that there is a ruling that if a rider is signed as aTEMPORARY replacement he remains just that and when the rider being replaced is able to return he must be allowed to - that is what happened last year and it seems it MUST HAPPEN AGAIN Who told you that? Len Silver? The only time that's true is if the rider that was replaced is an assessed rider. Proof you're talking twaddle, Emil Sayfutdinov was only a temp signing for Hans but Emil kept the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Wish I hadn't asked now!! I think this might make it clearer If Len wants to keep Anders, and assuming Nelson (average 5.33) does eventually return all he needs to do is re-declare. However if it drags on too long the next set of greensheets might have an adverse effect with a rider(s) having increased their averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think this might make it clearer If Len wants to keep Anders, and assuming Nelson (average 5.33) does eventually return all he needs to do is re-declare. However if it drags on too long the next set of greensheets might have an adverse effect with a rider(s) having increased their averages. And then you can only replace like for like or re-declare under the limit. I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Any news on Tyson anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Has gone ominously quiet has nt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Who told you that? Len Silver? The only time that's true is if the rider that was replaced is an assessed rider. Proof you're talking twaddle, Emil Sayfutdinov was only a temp signing for Hans but Emil kept the place. didn't realise that you were Deren Brown and that you knew better than me exactly what i was TOLD - don't follow your logic about Sayfutdinov either - if I remember correctly (and I'm very sure you will correct me if I am wrong) Anderson did not continue to ride for Coventry but moved to PB - thought the discussion here was about keeping both Nelson and Anders - still you probably know best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Well B'ham seem to think Nelson is on his way back very soon, according to Dreary in the SS this week?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Well B'ham seem to think Nelson is on his way back very soon, according to Dreary in the SS this week?? The man with more spin than the magic roundabout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Startline Sid, no but I can know the person who you is talking rubbish. Why do you think Hans eventually went elsewhere? It was because Coventry decided to keep Emil and drop Hans. I'm telling you, there is no such rule. For a start there's a glaring loop hole, bring the original rider back and then make a like-for-like change with the temp rider brought in to replace another rider. You want an example? Ales Dryml was injured, so Ulrich Ostergaard was brought in as a temp signing. When Dryml was for again he replaced James Wright/Kevin Wolbert. As I said, the person who told you is talking rubbish, they may very well have told you, I don't dispute that but they were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Any news on Tyson anyone ? Not back untill June at the earliest, looks like he's ruled out of our plans in the EL. Really gutted as I would have liked to have seen him race for us this season. Cheers Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheekee Raylee Monkee Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Not back untill June at the earliest, looks like he's ruled out of our plans in the EL. Really gutted as I would have liked to have seen him race for us this season. Cheers Len You're welcome..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Not back untill June at the earliest, looks like he's ruled out of our plans in the EL. Really gutted as I would have liked to have seen him race for us this season. Cheers Len Complete cock up and awfully unprofessional by the club, but not really surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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