Zetters Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Couldn't decide which smiley to use, so I use two... What happened Anders? Everyone will have Your thoughts about it! Please tell Us........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Dackarna v Vastervik(2 legs) is the play-out final-loser relegated looks as if canal plus are showing both legs on tues/wed 27/28th sept Premier sports are not showing it so hopefully will be able to watch a stream Dackarna v Vastervik tues Vastervik v Dackarna wed But very sad we can't have "Paddy's informed commentary. I will miss that! Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) But very sad we can't have "Paddy's informed commentary. I will miss that! Regards. Alan. You might-i won`t Edited September 21, 2011 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 What happened Anders? Everyone will have Your thoughts about it! Please tell Us........ http://www.elitvetlanda.se/index.php?page=news&stage=1&id=1978 you have a brief comment there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetters Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 http://www.elitvetlanda.se/index.php?page=news&stage=1&id=1978 you have a brief comment there. Hampel for example = criminal bad(worst) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) But very sad we can't have "Paddy's informed commentary. I will miss that! Regards. Alan. Oh yes you can, Alan ! Taken from Twitter : @PremierSportsTV Premier Sports 4 nights of speedway over next 2 weeks with relegation battle between Dackarna and Västervik next week and then... (Taken from ) Premier Sports 4 nights of speedway over next 2 weeks with relegation battle between Dackarna and Västervik next week and then the finals between Piraterna and Indianerna the following. Should be good. Sadly the 1st match has to be delayed until 10pm because of live football but other 3 are live. Edited September 21, 2011 by jeffster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Oh yes you can, Alan ! Taken from Twitter : @PremierSportsTV Premier Sports 4 nights of speedway over next 2 weeks with relegation battle between Dackarna and Västervik next week and then... (Taken from ) Premier Sports 4 nights of speedway over next 2 weeks with relegation battle between Dackarna and Västervik next week and then the finals between Piraterna and Indianerna the following. Should be good. Sadly the 1st match has to be delayed until 10pm because of live football but other 3 are live. Well there you go my friend. I'll stick with the Polish stream, even though i don't understand a word since they SOUND as though they know what they are talking about. On a serious note, any speedway coverage is terrific, but it surely wouldn't cost very much to get someone in to sit alongside him to clue him in.He doesn't seem to understand the very concept of team speedway, has no clue about tactical substitutes or even who is who in a race. Shame because it wouldn't take much to rectify. All the best. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 http://www.elitvetlanda.se/index.php?page=news&stage=1&id=1978 you have a brief comment there. Google translated ( well somewhat ) http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elitvetlanda.se%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Dnews%26stage%3D1%26id%3D1978&act=url Regards. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Didn`t go as far as 10pm on the planner just saw a football match on earlier. will give Premier another chance to impress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Well there you go my friend. I'll stick with the Polish stream, even though i don't understand a word since they SOUND as though they know what they are talking about. On a serious note, any speedway coverage is terrific, but it surely wouldn't cost very much to get someone in to sit alongside him to clue him in.He doesn't seem to understand the very concept of team speedway, has no clue about tactical substitutes or even who is who in a race. Shame because it wouldn't take much to rectify. All the best. Alan. You could suggest that, Alan - www.premiersports.tv or @premiersportstv on Twitter Personally, I think this year is a learning process and things should improve from 2012. Dave McIntyre (@davemcintyreNT) doesnt actually work for PremierSports, as he is a full time sports journalist on "NewsTalk", an Irish version of Talksport radio in the UK. Dave actually specialises in Gaelic sports, Hurling & Gaelic Football, and had virtually no knowledge of speedway prior to being asked by PremierSports to cover speedway for them. I think Dave has improved quite a lot since the Swedish season started in May. When Dave's NewsTalk commitments preclude him from covering the speedway on a Tuesday (GAA Clubs hold their press conferences on a Tuesday evening) Declan Quigley takes over, and I must admit, I find him hard to listen to (I have made PremierSports aware of this) As the guys are sat in a Dublin TV studio, with no contact with the track where the meeting is being shown live from, I think they do a good and improving job. The fact that the studio is in Dublin obviously doesnt help with getting in someone to provide colour commentary, for example. I can't believe that there are many speedway "experts" living in the Irish Republic, and therefore, they would have to fly someone over from England, which may be prohibitive for them. Personally, to be able to watch Swedish Speedway live on a Tuesday night at home in England on TV without the hassle of finding an internet stream watched on a PC is great, and makes the £7.99 a month subscription cost well worth it, especially as I watch the NRL Rugby League too. However, if one lives overseas, then obviously an internet stream is possibly the only viable option, Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) You could suggest that, Alan - www.premiersports.tv or @premiersportstv on Twitter Personally, I think this year is a learning process and things should improve from 2012. Dave McIntyre (@davemcintyreNT) doesnt actually work for PremierSports, as he is a full time sports journalist on "NewsTalk", an Irish version of Talksport radio in the UK. Dave actually specialises in Gaelic sports, Hurling & Gaelic Football, and had virtually no knowledge of speedway prior to being asked by PremierSports to cover speedway for them. I think Dave has improved quite a lot since the Swedish season started in May. When Dave's NewsTalk commitments preclude him from covering the speedway on a Tuesday (GAA Clubs hold their press conferences on a Tuesday evening) Declan Quigley takes over, and I must admit, I find him hard to listen to (I have made PremierSports aware of this) As the guys are sat in a Dublin TV studio, with no contact with the track where the meeting is being shown live from, I think they do a good and improving job. The fact that the studio is in Dublin obviously doesnt help with getting in someone to provide colour commentary, for example. I can't believe that there are many speedway "experts" living in the Irish Republic, and therefore, they would have to fly someone over from England, which may be prohibitive for them. Personally, to be able to watch Swedish Speedway live on a Tuesday night at home in England on TV without the hassle of finding an internet stream watched on a PC is great, and makes the £7.99 a month subscription cost well worth it, especially as I watch the NRL Rugby League too. However, if one lives overseas, then obviously an internet stream is possibly the only viable option, Alan. As a sports journalist maybe he should know that Vojens is in denmark not Norway-probably the nordic title threw him. Edited September 21, 2011 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 As a sports journalist maybe he should know that Vojens is in denmark not Norway-probably the nordic title threw him. Possibly. but with having precious little knowledge of speedway before May this year, I am not surprised he didnt know..... I wonder how many sports journalists from Scandanavia would know that Páirc Uí Chaoimh is a GAA venue in Cork ? What I also find funny is that week after week on twitter you can see people having a pop at the coverage and/or commentary provided by PremierSports on a Tuesday...The same suspects do it every week, but they must be tuning in every week to have a dig ? Yes, PremierSports undoubtedly do not have the resources of Sky, but I am grateful to be able to watch ElitSerien on a Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Possibly. but with having precious little knowledge of speedway before May this year, I am not surprised he didnt know..... I wonder how many sports journalists from Scandanavia would know that Páirc Uí Chaoimh is a GAA venue in Cork ? What I also find funny is that week after week on twitter you can see people having a pop at the coverage and/or commentary provided by PremierSports on a Tuesday...The same suspects do it every week, but they must be tuning in every week to have a dig ? Yes, PremierSports undoubtedly do not have the resources of Sky, but I am grateful to be able to watch ElitSerien on a Tuesday Probably the sports journalist in scandanavia would do some research before opening his mouth or going into print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) Possibly. but with having precious little knowledge of speedway before May this year, I am not surprised he didnt know..... I wonder how many sports journalists from Scandanavia would know that Páirc Uí Chaoimh is a GAA venue in Cork ? What I also find funny is that week after week on twitter you can see people having a pop at the coverage and/or commentary provided by PremierSports on a Tuesday...The same suspects do it every week, but they must be tuning in every week to have a dig ? Yes, PremierSports undoubtedly do not have the resources of Sky, but I am grateful to be able to watch ElitSerien on a Tuesday Gaelic Athletic Association stadium in the Ballintemple area of Cork in Ireland,[1] where major hurling and Gaelic football matches are played The stadium annually hosts the finals of the Cork senior hurling and senior football championships. It also frequently hosts games in the National Hurling League, National Football League, Munster Hurling Championship and Munster Football Championship. Behind Croke Park, Semple Stadium and the Gaelic Grounds, Páirc Uí Chaoimh has the largest capacity of any Gaelic Games stadium. source Wikipedia. with this i mean that i never heard about that stadium before but it took me just a minute or two of looking that information up. Obviously for an Irishmen who hardly ever have come in contact with it could be difficult to know whether Vojens is in Denmark or Norway but it isn't very hardto look it up, I mean even Alan could manage it. Edited September 21, 2011 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 source Wikipedia. with this i mean that i never heard about that stadium before but it took me just a minute or two of looking that information up. Obviously for an Irishmen who hardly ever have come in contact with it could be difficult to know whether Vojens is in Denmark or Norway but it isn't very hardto look it up, I mean even Alan could manage it. Thanks mate Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 You could suggest that, Alan - www.premiersports.tv or @premiersportstv on Twitter Personally, I think this year is a learning process and things should improve from 2012. Dave McIntyre (@davemcintyreNT) doesnt actually work for PremierSports, as he is a full time sports journalist on "NewsTalk", an Irish version of Talksport radio in the UK. Dave actually specialises in Gaelic sports, Hurling & Gaelic Football, and had virtually no knowledge of speedway prior to being asked by PremierSports to cover speedway for them. I think Dave has improved quite a lot since the Swedish season started in May. When Dave's NewsTalk commitments preclude him from covering the speedway on a Tuesday (GAA Clubs hold their press conferences on a Tuesday evening) Declan Quigley takes over, and I must admit, I find him hard to listen to (I have made PremierSports aware of this) As the guys are sat in a Dublin TV studio, with no contact with the track where the meeting is being shown live from, I think they do a good and improving job. The fact that the studio is in Dublin obviously doesnt help with getting in someone to provide colour commentary, for example. I can't believe that there are many speedway "experts" living in the Irish Republic, and therefore, they would have to fly someone over from England, which may be prohibitive for them. Personally, to be able to watch Swedish Speedway live on a Tuesday night at home in England on TV without the hassle of finding an internet stream watched on a PC is great, and makes the £7.99 a month subscription cost well worth it, especially as I watch the NRL Rugby League too. However, if one lives overseas, then obviously an internet stream is possibly the only viable option, Alan. You make a very civilised defence of Premier and i would only make a couple of points. I did work in radio here in the USA so i have some knowledge of studio links. It would be the simplest thing for them to have,say, Chris Louis sitting in front of his TV screen and hooked up direct into the studio in Ireland. Video conferencing is absolutely mainstream today, and my wife and i "skype on video" when she is away. So i think the "expert assistant" could be very easily overcome. Information has never been more easily or speedily available. I preach (whilst he yawns) to my 16 year old that the only way to fact check in my (ancient ) day was to go to the library. As our friend Ghostwalker from Sweden pointed out Google or Wikipedia give you the answer, sometimes, ofttimes, whilst you are still typing it in. "Mindreaders" But the point about Vojens by Racers and Royals is well made. Broadcasting is a lot more difficult than the Tatum/Pearson knockers are aware of, but preparation is an integral part of the job. I think it is terrific that they are making available for UK viewers one of speedway's top two leagues -approve Ghostwalker ? but i think with just a bit of tweaking it could be so much better. And if they will sell me a subscription here in the USA i will buy one!! All the best my friend and i will contact them, so thanks for the information. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Some good interesting replies in the last few postings regarding Premier Sports. I'd love to throw in my tuppence worth too. But i feel we are hijacking and blocking this thread which is for those who want to access quick info and opinions on the end of the season in Sweden. Just a heads up there is a thread titled 'Premier Sports' in the general section of the forum. I was going to repost the posts i made there into this one too but feel bad to do so as this thread here is titled 'Swedish Elite League Play-offs And Play-outs'! Obviously one can't help touch upon the tv coverage, i know as others have done over the season so have i. However, the side issue of Premier Sports seems to be dominating the thread now. I'll see what happens in the near future and will post accordingly with the masses. Hell if both threads are having good opinions and thoughts tossed around i'll post in both Edited September 24, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Elitserien Playout Final 1 2011-09-27 Dackarna - Västervik Dackarna Andreas Jonsson Hans Andersen Fredrik Lindgren Jurica Pavlic R/R Rune Holta Daniel King Joel Larsson Västervik Tomasz Jedrzejak Peter Ljung Chris Harris Nikolai Klindt Sebastian Ulamek Pontus Aspgren Rafal Okoniewski Its time for the relegation final. The looser is this double meeting will follow Lejonen down to Allsvenskan. That is if Rospiggarna chooses to take the step up to Elitserien. Several of Dackarna's riders showed goof form in Gorican, however its now a league meeting and the pressure on both team's riders are probably quite big. In the series Dackarna won both meetings. At home the won with 48-41 and at Västervik they won with 46-44. Both Tuesdays and Wednesdays meeting will be shown live on Canal+ Sport 1. There have been allot of complaining about that Rospiggarna haven't announced their decision yet. This is despite that Rospiggarna have until Saturday in this week (October 1st) to decide. Some speculate that they will decline while others claim that they have new sponsor on the line which would give the the funds needed for a return to Elitserien. So we'll just have to wait and see. Edited September 27, 2011 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Is it R/R for Pavlic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetters Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Is it R/R for Pavlic Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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