PhilK Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Seeing Shadders thread about the Rye House Raiders returning next season following the failed experiment with Hackney, got me thinking about what teams would run in 2012, and will there be any newcomers? From this years 10 I would guess Mildenhall, Rye House, Stoke, Scunthorpe, Buxton and Dudley are certainties to run Kings Lynn, Belle Vue and Isle of Wight are hopefuls / maybe's And Newport look doubtful As for new sides the rumour about Bodmin continues and will Sittingbourne appear in 2012 Does anyone have any views or news on possible runners?! Edited September 7, 2011 by PhilK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Seeing Shadders thread about the Rye House Raiders returning next season following the failed experiment with Hackney, got me thinking about what teams would run in 2012, and will there be any newcomers? From this years 10 I would guess Mildenhall, Rye House, Stoke, Scunthorpe, Buxton and Dudley are certainties to run Kings Lynn, Belle Vue and Isle of Wight are hopefuls / maybe's And Newport look doubtful As for new sides the rumour about Bodmin continues and will Sittingbourne appear in 2012 Does anyone have any views or news on possible runners?! Long Eaton running at leicester .I wouls say are a more than hopeful but not a certainty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Had reports over the last few weeks (mostly but not totally unconfirmed)that Buxton, Rye House, Belle Vue, King's Lynn & Isle of Wight are all running I really can't see Mildenhall, Stoke or Dudley closing or changing leagues as they have all almost certainly been a financial success this year and Scunthorpe's number of riders now at PL clubs has meant that their NL side has done its job so I will be surprised if they go. Sadly, I doubt very much if Newport will be around - in fact, the only way I see that happening is if the PL side finish instead and there is a will to continue with speedway at Queensway. Bodmin, I am told, is looking very good indeed. Long way to travel but who wouldn't fancy a trip to Cornwall ? There could always be one or two others that pop out of the pack - who would have expected the Colts to be riding this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Whats happening with the plans at BRISTOL..???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Whats happening with the plans at BRISTOL..???? Looking very good........but for 2013. That's what I have heard, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 From this year's 10 I can only see a doubt being over Newport. Though would BV Colts want to run if Howarth & Garrity's averages make them ineligible? Realistically though I don't think Jason will hit over 5.00 his year, but Howarth might yet do that (Rule change anyone? ). From what I'm told you can put the Islanders in the NL certanties bracket. As to new teams... the Bodmin one is interesting! I thought Bristol intended to run in the NL in 2012 a couple of years ago, and I thought that was still a possibility, even though as time passes the likelhood will get smaller. And hasn't the same been said about Sittingbourne for a couple of winters now? So what makes this winter any different? There could always be one or two others that pop out of the pack - who would have expected the Colts to be riding this year ? Completely agree HT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 You could yet see Plymouth back in the NL in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Nothing has been decided at Buxton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the bilster Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hope stoke are back in premier league next season, but myself can,t see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) The standard of the national league this season was probably the highest the third tier has been, and yet with the exception of 2 or3 tracks it still fails to capture the imagination of the fans who do not attend in good numbers which is a shame,,because the racing and atmosphere can be excellent as Dudley and Mildenhall fans can testify to. It is to be hoped at least 10 teams start next season.. And will continue to produce some more excellent youngsters that we have undoubtably seen this season..several of whom have doubled up in the Premier League at reserve already, in my opinion premier reserves should be exclusively under 21 yrs and british and this should be put forward at the BSPA AGM...Our thanks should go to those promoters that are encouraging young British riders..Lets get behind this league next year and help make it the success it needs to be for the future of speedway in this country.. Edited September 10, 2011 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Interesting to read John Cooks comments that Lakeside may run in the NL if there is enough interest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I still cant understand how they can say the Hawks experiment failed when they have only given it one season and as we know speedway fans are creatures of habit and habits take more than a season to break. Unless the 2 clubs couldnt agree on a way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Running Rye and Lakeside NL teams separately will be better for crowds at both venues having a real home side to support whilst it means we gain another team in the NL numbers wise. Good luck to any Lakeside NL team if they do run a team at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The standard of the national league this season was probably the highest the third tier has been, and yet with the exception of 2 or3 tracks it still fails to capture the imagination of the fans who do not attend in good numbers which is a shame,,because the racing and atmosphere can be excellent as Dudley and Mildenhall fans can testify to. It is to be hoped at least 10 teams start next season.. And will continue to produce some more excellent youngsters that we have undoubtably seen this season..several of whom have doubled up in the Premier League at reserve already, in my opinion premier reserves should be exclusively under 21 yrs and british and this should be put forward at the BSPA AGM...Our thanks should go to those promoters that are encouraging young British riders..Lets get behind this league next year and help make it the success it needs to be for the future of speedway in this country.. I agree 100%. But if someone should give a team a name/brand different to the norm (eg Cobras or 'Hackney') let's just go with the flow, eh..?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Interesting to read John Cooks comments that Lakeside may run in the NL if there is enough interest! That looks more promising than ever. I spoke to Ashley Taylor (one of those behind Bodmin Speedway) at Plymouth a week or so ago and he was very guarded and careful indeed, probably stung by what happened last time down there. He did say that the court ruling at Mildenhall is being used as a benchmark for the track and I got the impression that there is a willingness to co-operate between the authorities and himself - certainly there doesn't appear to be any objecting neighbours and I know the planned site is next to a moto-cross track with full planning permission. Every best wish to him. I also heard last week that there could potentially be another new track in the NL, that being conditional to planning permission. Jack Lee was talking enthusiastically about 2012; perhaps Jayne hasn't spoken to him yet Edited October 10, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 That looks more promising than ever. I spoke to Ashley Taylor (one of those behind Bodmin Speedway) at Plymouth a week or so ago and he was very guarded and careful indeed, probably stung by what happened last time down there. He did say that the court ruling at Mildenhall is being used as a benchmark for the track and I got the impression that there is a willingness to co-operate between the authorities and himself - certainly there doesn't appear to be any objecting neighbours and I know the planned site is next to a moto-cross track with full planning permission. Every best wish to him. I also heard last week that there could potentially be another new track in the NL, that being conditional to planning permission. Jack Lee was talking enthusiastically about 2012; perhaps Jayne hasn't spoken to him yet Things sound promising for next year for some new clubs! Which would be good to see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Jack Lee was talking enthusiastically about 2012; perhaps Jayne hasn't spoken to him yet Jayne has actually and we will wait and see what the AGM brings and the costs involved before making any decisions. It gets harder and harder to compete with the 'rich' clubs every year and something really needs to be done about the costs involved to everyone, promoters and riders alike. The sad fact is that there is not enough riders around of the required standard and you cannot expect supporters to pay £10+ for an inferior product. It will be an interesting winter again that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Jayne has actually and we will wait and see what the AGM brings and the costs involved before making any decisions. It gets harder and harder to compete with the 'rich' clubs every year and something really needs to be done about the costs involved to everyone, promoters and riders alike. The sad fact is that there is not enough riders around of the required standard and you cannot expect supporters to pay £10+ for an inferior product. It will be an interesting winter again that is for sure. You bit slightly too quickly there, Jayne Forgive me, I couldn't resist. Jack has indeed been talking enthusiastically about next season, though. I'd say Buxton's record in 2010 puts a bit of a dent in your argument, wouldn't you ? Indeed, you seem to be competitive each and every season. Fingers crossed you will be there. Allowing one foreign rider per club would help a bit without damaging too much the development of young British riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villiers210 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 It gets harder and harder to compete with the 'rich' clubs every year and something really needs to be done about the costs involved to everyone, promoters and riders alike. Really dont understand what you actually mean here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Really dont understand what you actually mean here. At the risk of being insulting, I would have thought that was rather obvious. Buxton's average gate is in the region of 300, yours in the region of 4 times that. There are no pay restraints in the NL (despite what you might believe) and if Adam Allott fancies a move to Dudley next year (which, in view of his form there this year, isn't that unthinkable) the Heathens can outbid Buxton for his services. Its exactly the same as the other two leagues, just on a smaller scale in terms of wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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