Siggytastic Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 It's gone quiet on here everyone must be on holiday like all the Edinburgh riders!!!! Not on holiday, just fed up with same old same old. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Not on holiday, just fed up with same old same old. What do you mean Rye House??? Sam old same old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 What do you mean Rye House??? Sam old same old I think he meant the same old crap from you.You just proved him right! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 After Glasgow I think we have reached the cut off for averages to determine the September riding order. Thanks in advance to those that can keep us plebs without the spreadsheet up to date!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Cut off is the 23rd so i think these are right..... Tungate 6.90 Lanham 6.80 North 6.65 Risager 6.45 Poole 6.20 Tres 5.68 Heeps 4.76 I'd go with the following order 1 Tungate 2 Risager 3 North 4 Poole 5 Lanham 6 Tres 7 Heeps Edited August 19, 2012 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Just hope Tungate's "private" injury doesn't keep him off his bike & Taylor gets back to his pre-injury fitness very soon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Cut off is the 23rd so i think these are right..... Tungate 6.90 Lanham 6.80 North 6.65 Risager 6.45 Poole 6.20 Tres 5.68 Heeps 4.76 I'd go with the following order 1 Tungate 2 Risager 3 North 4 Poole 5 Lanham 6 Tres 7 Heeps If indeed these averages are correct the Witches still have a no1 rider with less than a 7 point average Suppose one day well just perhaps louis will realise a true no1 is needed with at least a 8.5 average to bring success. Riding order for these 7 is pretty immaterial as all 7 are much the same and will win naff all anyway. Already a top 6 place looks out of sight and has turned into yet another dud season under louis to add to the last 13 years. Oh I forgot we won the 4s egg cup last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If indeed these averages are correct the Witches still have a no1 rider with less than a 7 point average Suppose one day well just perhaps louis will realise a true no1 is needed with at least a 8.5 average to bring success. Riding order for these 7 is pretty immaterial as all 7 are much the same and will win naff all anyway. Already a top 6 place looks out of sight and has turned into yet another dud season under louis to add to the last 13 years. Oh I forgot we won the 4s egg cup last season You just dont get it do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's a good job you're not a King's Lynn fan, Aljack. The National League side has a number 1 with a 5.79 average! You'd have kittens! Think Tungate is the best man for the #1 jacket. He has that something about him that makes you think he will cope with it a little better than some. Hopefully the move will help young Poole find some confidence and begin to score more freely again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It's a good job you're not a King's Lynn fan, Aljack. The National League side has a number 1 with a 5.79 average! You'd have kittens! Think Tungate is the best man for the #1 jacket. He has that something about him that makes you think he will cope with it a little better than some. Hopefully the move will help young Poole find some confidence and begin to score more freely again. And what will Kings Lynn national league side win??? thats it naff all. I agree Rohan is the best suited rider in the team to ride at one as not alot seems to phase him but hardly fair on the young lad with such little experience. Yes lets hope the move to I suspect two in the team for Taylor will gain him his confidence back gradually. I think its a bl**dy shame that Taylor was thrown into the deep end at one when coming back from a nasty injury just due to the experienced riders in the team not doing their job. I hope there are numerous changes next season and the riders who let the team and the fans down are weeded out for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And what will Kings Lynn national league side win??? thats it naff all. I agree Rohan is the best suited rider in the team to ride at one as not alot seems to phase him but hardly fair on the young lad with such little experience. Yes lets hope the move to I suspect two in the team for Taylor will gain him his confidence back gradually. I think its a bl**dy shame that Taylor was thrown into the deep end at one when coming back from a nasty injury just due to the experienced riders in the team not doing their job. I hope there are numerous changes next season and the riders who let the team and the fans down are weeded out for good. The NL is probably the one league where winning isnt the be all and end all,its aim surely is to provide the younger riders with the chance to race and put themselves in the shop window for any PL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If indeed these averages are correct the Witches still have a no1 rider with less than a 7 point average Suppose one day well just perhaps louis will realise a true no1 is needed with at least a 8.5 average to bring success. Riding order for these 7 is pretty immaterial as all 7 are much the same and will win naff all anyway. Already a top 6 place looks out of sight and has turned into yet another dud season under louis to add to the last 13 years. Oh I forgot we won the 4s egg cup last season Haven't we been down this road before? You've stated on these forums that you'd like next seasons team to comprise Frampton, Poole, Tungate, North and Heeps - even with a 3pt reserve it leaves less than 8 pts for your "genuine number 1" which isn't enough as you say it needs to be at least 8.5pt average. So, who are you going to drop from your Witches 2013 team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Do you really expect an answer to that Jules from someone who's not a genuine Ipswich fan, as I've never known someone to take as much glee out of their own team losing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 You just dont get it do you. You still talking about speedway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And what will Kings Lynn national league side win??? thats it naff all. Now, now, Aljack, that is not strictly true. They won a match last month. They have several matches before the end of the season, so might get another win soon! I do really feel for Taylor. He was putting everything into it on Saturday night, but it's just not happening at the moment for him. And sometimes when you try a bit too hard, you make mistakes. It can be a vicious circle. He's been an unfortunate victim of the averages, but it happens sometimes. Speedway can be a funny sport at times. Sometimes success is penalised the following year, and it works the other way round, too. If you have an injury-ravaged season (like Taylor has) one year, you end up with a low average, which is often made to look silly 12 months down the line. Chris Schramm is another rider who I feel is in a similar position, and will finish the season on a far lower average than he should do. Both could be key riders in 2013. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 You still talking about speedway? Maybe he just lacks focus. Maybe thats what the fellow needs,someone to come along and say come with me and focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pere Ubon Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) With the news that Sam Masters has been eased out at the OTA, I provide the following for discussion: Masters 7.55 Lanham 6.71 Tungate 6.65 North 6.64 Risager 5.89 Hart 4.52 Heeps 4.42 Total 42.38 Not suggesting that this action should be taken, and it certainly would be tough on both Tres and Taylor. However I think Ipswich would be stronger as a result. One thing for sure is if they did want to do this, they would need to do so before the new averages come into effect. Edited August 23, 2012 by Pere Ubon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 With the news that Sam Masters has been eased out at the OTA, I provide the following for discussion: Masters 7.55 Lanham 6.71 Tungate 6.65 North 6.64 Risager 5.89 Hart 4.52 Heeps 4.42 Total 42.38 Not suggesting that this action should be taken, and it certainly would be tough on both Tres and Taylor. However I think Ipswich would be stronger as a result. One thing for sure is if they did want to do this, they would need to do so before the new averages come into effect. Certainly an interesting thought but my guess is louis will do nothing to strengthen the top end as always. Its never ever been the louis way to make unforced changes and us fans are used to no ambition at foxhall. Which is such a crying shame as theres lots of fans out there who do not go any more that are just forever waiting for a team capable of winning something after 14 barren years. I have plenty of time for Sam Masters and he would make a great signing with next season in mind and especially if a genuine no1 was added to make a potent top 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Certainly an interesting thought but my guess is louis will do nothing to strengthen the top end as always. Its never ever been the louis way to make unforced changes and us fans are used to no ambition at foxhall. Which is such a crying shame as theres lots of fans out there who do not go any more that are just forever waiting for a team capable of winning something after 14 barren years. I have plenty of time for Sam Masters and he would make a great signing with next season in mind and especially if a genuine no1 was added to make a potent top 2. Would you take Masters if it meant dropping Poole and bringing back Hart? Yes or no With the news that Sam Masters has been eased out at the OTA, I provide the following for discussion: Masters 7.55 Lanham 6.71 Tungate 6.65 North 6.64 Risager 5.89 Hart 4.52 Heeps 4.42 Total 42.38 Not suggesting that this action should be taken, and it certainly would be tough on both Tres and Taylor. However I think Ipswich would be stronger as a result. One thing for sure is if they did want to do this, they would need to do so before the new averages come into effect. Personally I don't see it as being stronger, leaving Heeps (who is currently injured) at reserve with Hart certainly would leave us struggling at the bottom end if Cam has an off night or take longer than expected to recover fully. I do like Sam and would love him to be a witch, but maybe next season rather than alter this years line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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