aljack Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Someone said on here somewhere, ok so I didn't hear it from him, but he will be as much as a joke as Lanham at 1. It dosen't matter who rides at no1 this Witches team simply are not strong enough with just a solid side and we desperately need a genuine no1 and no2 next season to add with Rohan and Cam. Who the other 3 riders are will be up to whatever the averages allows and I personally would like a good clear out of all this dead wood in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz88 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 It dosen't matter who rides at no1 this Witches team simply are not strong enough with just a solid side and we desperately need a genuine no1 and no2 next season to add with Rohan and Cam. Who the other 3 riders are will be up to whatever the averages allows and I personally would like a good clear out of all this dead wood in the team. Why next season? why not now? Your now instigating something that you've criticised Chris for. I do have an idea for the team, but will be putting it to Chris or John on Tuesday before brandishing it on here. you accuse people of having rose tinted glasses, I feel you view this through red tinted glasses. Its quite easy to see changes are needed, but it isn't just you, no one can offer a suitable replacement. Taylor would only be like for like, not the number 1 you so desperately crave. I also feel Kevin or Leigh are the second heatleader we need, so we're actually only after a number 1, plus perhaps a young, fresh, keen reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I also feel Kevin or Leigh are the second heatleader we need What in heavens name makes you think Lanham or Doolan is the second heatleader we need??? What have they done this season to suggest either are good enough for that job??? My opinion is that neither are anywhere near good enough to ride in heats 13 or 15 and do the job of beating the oppositions top heatleaders in fact one Lanham does not even want to ride for the Witches. Dont want to see either of these riders riding for us next season along with Risager and Tress, lets clear all the dead wood out and start afresh with just Rohan and Cam remaining along with a genuine no1 and a genuine no2 and adding 3 others that the averages allow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Well, let's hope he does score at least 12 form 5 in his next three meetings to show Ipswich fans what he's capable of when he has to ride at #5. Lots of fans have been very patient with Lanham for a few weeks now, and a few odd rides which have shown he is capable of good scores, but they are plainly not enough and don't instil any confidence that he's going to improve dramatically. The two most experienced riders (with the two highest averages) must lead from the front, simple as that. Simply not going to happen its time for all fans to wake up to reality and realise the team put together at the start of the season (less Taylor) as a "solid" side is not going to win anything and needs 2 genuine heatleaders and not 7 second strings. But with louis loyalties with sky way above those of with the Witches as was proven Wednesday I cant see this ever happening as even now in the inferior premier league the team is still put together on the cheap with no big hitters!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) And there was I believing John Louis and not Chris was the promoter at Ipswich 'alljack!' Just goes to show how wrong you can be doesn't it? Edited July 14, 2012 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 And there was I believing John Louis and not Chris was the promoter at Ipswich 'alljack!' Just goes to show how wrong you can be doesn't it? So you think Chris Louis has no say in what the team is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Sackers Witches 2012 Home Averages (without Bonus Points) Lanham ... 5.57 Doolan ... 7.92 Risager ... 6.67 Tresarrieu ... 6.00 North ... 6.89 Tungate ... 6.32 Heeps ... 5.30 Sackers Witches 2012 Away Averages (without Bonus Points) Lanham ... 6.27 Doolan ... 6.44 Risager ... 4.50 Tresarrieu ... 4.95 North ... 6.34 Tungate ... 6.95 Heeps ... 2.88 You certainly must have a very exciting and busy life that you have all this time on your hands to keep listing riders averages What does it matter what their averages are home or away this team is not good enough is clear for anyone to see, well most anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 At least Dave spends his time with something informative & constructive & not does not fill his time posting ill-informed,unsubstatiated vitriol & personal vendetta. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 It's clear that the Aljack has got no real handle on facts - it just says what it fancies and twists other peoples' opinions to suit it's own corrosive but unfulfilled agenda. Hope you are well after you little "episode" at Foxhall, Bryn - the summer-like weather wasn't very helpful! Thanks for your concern Dave and pleased to report I'm fine thanks - still gutted at missing that meeting mind you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Dave you know you're wasting your time, aljack doesn't deal with fact only fiction, thats why he thinks its a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Dave you know you're wasting your time, aljack doesn't deal with fact only fiction, thats why he thinks its a waste of time. Tell you something bash that certainly is fact, this present Witches team will win nothing this season and however their averages are manipulated that will not make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 We probably won't win anything, but at least we have speedway to watch at Foxhall, unlike some teams that don't anymore (no disrespect to those teams). You would rather we were in the elite league losing money and going out of business, then in the inferior premier league as you refer to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) TBF Baggy, it crossed my mind too, why would people keep putting Topinka in our line ups , and his appearances this year wouldn't instill any confidence either 5. Tomas Topinka - 0,1,1,0,2 = 4 3. Tomas Topinka - 1,2,1,1,2* = 7+1 Looking at current form you should have signed him,he be your Number no.1 with that scoreing power...... Edited July 16, 2012 by montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 We probably won't win anything, but at least we have speedway to watch at Foxhall, unlike some teams that don't anymore (no disrespect to those teams). You would rather we were in the elite league losing money and going out of business, then in the inferior premier league as you refer to it. That is true Im not saying I would rather we went out of existence by being in the elite league but louis has had £40,000 - £50,000 on transfers in recent times and that should have been enough to keep us in the elite league with the extra revenue that would bring in if we had a competitive team. Success breeds success and in turn that brings in bums on seats and if louis had only made some astute moves in signing the right riders (no Poles) that could actually bring success then who knows the gates of 1998 could return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I dont believe anyone is deliberately not scoring points. Im told there is no lack of investment in equipment and time/effort to put things right. We will all find out what if anything will change in due course. Things can only get better though - surely!? Whilst the former may be true I'm not so sure that there is no lack of time/effort being put in - especially in Lanhams case, he was the most notable absence from the track practise after last weeks defeat to scunthorpe despite Pete telling everyone to go out and practise. <snip> plus perhaps a young, fresh, keen reserve. S.Nielsen who has just been released from Scunthorpe and looked very hungry last Wednesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone deaf Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 That is true Im not saying I would rather we went out of existence by being in the elite league but louis has had £40,000 - £50,000 on transfers in recent times and that should have been enough to keep us in the elite league with the extra revenue that would bring in if we had a competitive team. Success breeds success and in turn that brings in bums on seats and if louis had only made some astute moves in signing the right riders (no Poles) that could actually bring success then who knows the gates of 1998 could return. Keep on living in the dream world. 1998 was a one off & it won't happen again. Unless a new Tim Woodward appears who is happy to invest heavily in the Witches, I can't see us ever having a team remotely near that standard again. I don't know enough about the finances involved in running a speedway team to make the sort of comments you have but I'd imagine the transfer money plays a major part in keeping the club afloat. Also they may be underperforming but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people were happy with the team when it was announced originally & also with Lanham coming in after the injuries. Criticism of Louis for making the wrong signings is easy now but you don't seem to make any constructive or positive suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 That is true Im not saying I would rather we went out of existence by being in the elite league but louis has had £40,000 - £50,000 on transfers in recent times and that should have been enough to keep us in the elite league with the extra revenue that would bring in if we had a competitive team. Success breeds success and in turn that brings in bums on seats and if louis had only made some astute moves in signing the right riders (no Poles) that could actually bring success then who knows the gates of 1998 could return. Financial director now are we? Please break down where you got those figures from and where that money may of gone - I'm sure we'd all like to hear it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Whilst the former may be true I'm not so sure that there is no lack of time/effort being put in - especially in Lanhams case, he was the most notable absence from the track practise after last weeks defeat to scunthorpe despite Pete telling everyone to go out and practise. What good did the practice actually do? Those that did go out just put it round mid track at 3/4 throttle.Perhaps just a bit of PR to show willing and no more. If we had seen them just concentrate on starts or tried different lines etc then may have been some point to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 What good did the practice actually do? Those that did go out just put it round mid track at 3/4 throttle. Perhaps just a bit of PR to show willing and no more. If we had seen them just concentrate on starts or tried different lines etc then may have been some point to it. I agree that it may of been more for form than function for the most part - but even Lanham couldn't be bothered to do that, he can't practise starts, lines or setup's with his bikes in the back of his van and on his way home. Frankly I'm disgusted that he didn't go out - more so after learning that they were all told to - I could understand if he had scored double figures but 2 points from 4 rides is pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I agree that it may of been more for form than function for the most part - but even Lanham couldn't be bothered to do that, he can't practise starts, lines or setup's with his bikes in the back of his van and on his way home. Frankly I'm disgusted that he didn't go out - more so after learning that they were all told to - I could understand if he had scored double figures but 2 points from 4 rides is pathetic. I certainly accept your point of view on this.With the likes of Chris and Donkey around who were superb starters you would think there would be more hands on coaching. Even experienced riders as ours are would benefit as they wont always realise those little things that are just not quite right. Of course Chris wasnt there last week to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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