Gavan Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 to be fair i would have hoped we wouldnt have built our team to defend the fours but to try and win the league! but when the team has been built so poorly then it wasnt even a concern. i am suprised the majority of fans are happy with mid table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 to be fair i would have hoped we wouldnt have built our team to defend the fours but to try and win the league! but when the team has been built so poorly then it wasnt even a concern. i am suprised the majority of fans are happy with mid table Totally agree Gavan but knowing the mentality of a lot of Witches fans on this site its no surprise to me at all. Honestly think they would be happy with bottom of the league every year as long as its in the premier league and being run by louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well I'm certainly not happy with mid table mediocrity ! I honestly believed we had built a team that could go places this year with every rider certainly capable of winning races . I know we've had the horrendous injury problems but for the most part I think it's big time underperforming that's the issue and not the lack of ability ! And just to put my 2 pence worth in , I would still go and support the team whatever league we are in and where we happen to be in that league ! ( however unhappy I may be about it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 No need to apologise, I was for a very short while! It was part of mucking up my old account, and will appear as such for ever more . You'll be delighted to hear I don't have any other accounts. was starting to think you were kks, kris ad, mjj racing and Dstapletons dad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I think it must cost more putting together a top quality team team together with top quality heat leaders even at this level. If you put together a winning team though I would have thought the crowds may be a bit bigger and for example made the semi's and finals of any cup and play off semi's and finals, then the extra crowds would pay for the better riders. Poole get good crowds cos they are successful, the year they finished bottom or one from bottom, their crowd was way down. People like to be involved in success, just look at most football teams or other sporting teams that are successful compared to the ones that are not. Even my local football teams crowd went up from around 300 to 2000 spectators a couple of years ago when they won the league and had a good cup run. Even people that had never been before started going because they wanted to be involved in the success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 No need to apologise, I was for a very short while! It was part of mucking up my old account, and will appear as such for ever more . You'll be delighted to hear I don't have any other accounts. Based on the top four only, on Rolling Averages. Based on Top 5 (all teams have to nominate 5 riders for the event), they qualify. No idea what the line-up would look like based on 2012 scores. Anyway, why do you care about this egg cup It doesn't matter if The qualify on top five averages, doesn't matter in the slightest, cos it was worked out on top 4 as per the rules. Why do people keep trying to put a positive spin on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well I'm certainly not happy with mid table mediocrity ! I honestly believed we had built a team that could go places this year with every rider certainly capable of winning races . I know we've had the horrendous injury problems but for the most part I think it's big time underperforming that's the issue and not the lack of ability ! And just to put my 2 pence worth in , I would still go and support the team whatever league we are in and where we happen to be in that league ! ( however unhappy I may be about it ) Well I was not referring to you Super Blue as I know like myself you are also a realist and realise whats happening at Ipswich these mediocre days. Yes riders signed by louis have underachieved but namely Doolan and Risager are on the way down and will simply not improve. As regards Tressarreui well I would never have signed him in the first place with a 6.9 average 1.4 below what was left. An 8.3 rider in at no1 would have made all the difference in the world but louis went for the soft option as always. Dak has been superb and so has Rohan and young Heeps has also upped his average even though he is only 16. Taylor sadly injured so Lanham was signed, well we all know how he cant ride foxhall if riding for the Witches, so WHY in hells name sign him oh yes!!! he is mates with louis So its understandable the Witches will struggle to make the play-offs and will once again win f-all It doesn't matter if The qualify on top five averages, doesn't matter in the slightest, cos it was worked out on top 4 as per the rules. Why do people keep trying to put a positive spin on things. Been brainwashed by the louis is god lovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well I was not referring to you Super Blue as I know like myself you are also a realist and realise whats happening at Ipswich these mediocre days. Yes riders signed by louis have underachieved but namely Doolan and Risager are on the way down and will simply not improve. As regards Tressarreui well I would never have signed him in the first place with a 6.9 average 1.4 below what was left. An 8.3 rider in at no1 would have made all the difference in the world but louis went for the soft option as always. Dak has been superb and so has Rohan and young Heeps has also upped his average even though he is only 16. Taylor sadly injured so Lanham was signed, well we all know how he cant ride foxhall if riding for the Witches, so WHY in hells name sign him oh yes!!! he is mates with louis So its understandable the Witches will struggle to make the play-offs and will once again win f-all Been brainwashed by the louis is god lovers. You are right that we could have had an 8.3 instead of a 6.9, I also thought we dropped down to re build our club and asset base. So we could have signed a new rider on a 7 to become yet another asset. Just a thought. Hurray, 100 pages of waffle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 . People like to be involved in success, just look at most football teams or other sporting teams that are successful compared to the ones that are not. Even my local football teams crowd went up from around 300 to 2000 spectators a couple of years ago when they won the league and had a good cup run. Even people that had never been before started going because they wanted to be involved in the success. Doesnt always work in speedway though,newportecconomics=doesnt work always!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) But didn't Newport's crowd dwindle before they made their changes that turned them into a better team. Now if they had started with a good team the crowd may not have dwindled, who knows. Ipswich crowds always start pretty good, until things start going wrong and things are just left to fizzle out. Plus at ipswich we have a bigger fan base to start with. A successful team could easily see our crowd double to what it is currently. Edited June 12, 2012 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dudek Zmarzlik Mikkel B Jensen Tungate Heeps Lasse Artem Laguta Breast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HasseHolmqvist Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dudek Zmarzlik Mikkel B Jensen Tungate Heeps Lasse Artem Laguta Detention for you laddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Detention for you laddie He's home from school :mad: Edited June 12, 2012 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 You are right that we could have had an 8.3 instead of a 6.9, I also thought we dropped down to re build our club and asset base. So we could have signed a new rider on a 7 to become yet another asset. Just a thought. Hurray, 100 pages of waffle. Well I was not referring to you Super Blue as I know like myself you are also a realist and realise whats happening at Ipswich these mediocre days. Yes riders signed by louis have underachieved but namely Doolan and Risager are on the way down and will simply not improve. As regards Tressarreui well I would never have signed him in the first place with a 6.9 average 1.4 below what was left. An 8.3 rider in at no1 would have made all the difference in the world but louis went for the soft option as always. Dak has been superb and so has Rohan and young Heeps has also upped his average even though he is only 16. Taylor sadly injured so Lanham was signed, well we all know how he cant ride foxhall if riding for the Witches, so WHY in hells name sign him oh yes!!! he is mates with louis So its understandable the Witches will struggle to make the play-offs and will once again win f-all Been brainwashed by the louis is god lovers. So, you both know what I'm going to ask, which rider on a 8.3 average could we of signed who wasn't already lined up for another PL clubs? Once again, there's a lot of slagging off of the team, there's a lot of deriding the riders you both claim to support, yet no names are mention for REALISTIC options, coming from a pair of "realists" I find it somewhat ironic...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 So, you both know what I'm going to ask, which rider on a 8.3 average could we of signed who wasn't already lined up for another PL clubs? Once again, there's a lot of slagging off of the team, there's a lot of deriding the riders you both claim to support, yet no names are mention for REALISTIC options, coming from a pair of "realists" I find it somewhat ironic...... That was a question I asked about a fortnight ago........still waiting for the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yes. To be honest, as long as we don't have some of this years team then that's good good enough for me. I would some riders that are hungry for success. How about Smith Tungate Poole North Howarth Heeps Morris Is that more realistic? You're going for no out and out No.1 and the strength in dept approach? You'll feel the wrath of Aljerk for that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 it is hard to nominate who we could have had or who is available now i know that but i did say on here at the start i wasnt happy with the team. Poole was a good addition and yes very unfortunate to lose him. I said Doolan was no longer a number 1 and that is proved. Very unfortunate for Risager with injuries but he is not good enough. Dak Rohan and Heeps emerge with credit and the signing of Lanham smacked of a quick fix. We are weak at the end of a meeting and 13 and 15 are huge worries. The team was poorly built at the start. Ok he is a bit of a wild thing but why didnt we move for Fisher before the start of the season or someone like Seb Alden? these guys were available but yet again we go the easy way out route the cheaper option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) That was a question I asked about a fortnight ago........still waiting for the answer. The trouble is Bruv (Hope I can call you that as your username is v long to type!) it's easier to moan and pick fault than it is to suggest workable solutions, I've had an idea about the riding order and I have put it to the promotion, what do we think Aljerk and Baldyman have done? Have they spoken to the promotion about their concerns and made suggestions? I'd wager that they haven't so really their opinions aren't all that valid if you ask me - it's like the old saying - put up or shut up! it is hard to nominate who we could have had or who is available now i know that but i did say on here at the start i wasnt happy with the team. Poole was a good addition and yes very unfortunate to lose him. I said Doolan was no longer a number 1 and that is proved. Very unfortunate for Risager with injuries but he is not good enough. Dak Rohan and Heeps emerge with credit and the signing of Lanham smacked of a quick fix. We are weak at the end of a meeting and 13 and 15 are huge worries. The team was poorly built at the start. Ok he is a bit of a wild thing but why didnt we move for Fisher before the start of the season or someone like Seb Alden? these guys were available but yet again we go the easy way out route the cheaper option. You may of answered your own question with Fisher - he's a bit wild (putting it mildly), maybe he was looked at and decided against in light of his erratic (dangerous) riding and not worth the risk should he come a cropper? Seb Alden, well again, maye he was looked at but Swindon are a Thursday night club if I remember correctly and I'd assume they had first dibs on him - so that rules him out. I'm only speculating that the club may of looked at either, for a more definitve answer you know what you need to do - speak to the only people that will know for sure, Chris, John or Simmo Edited June 12, 2012 by Ipswich Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 So, you both know what I'm going to ask, which rider on a 8.3 average could we of signed who wasn't already lined up for another PL clubs? Once again, there's a lot of slagging off of the team, there's a lot of deriding the riders you both claim to support, yet no names are mention for REALISTIC options, coming from a pair of "realists" I find it somewhat ironic...... Usual drivel by a perfect specimen of a louis is god lover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Only Ipswich could ruin a side with Heeps and Tungate on such low averages. KKS and Aljerk - separated at birth or the result of cousins marrying?? I can't make up my mind which it is!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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