aljack Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 i could see the team ending p like this: Doolan: 9,5 with new equipment Risager: 8,5-9,0 with the comments made earlier Taylor: 7,0-7,50 Rohan: 7,0-7,50 Matt: 7,0-7,50 with more track knowledge and no long track commitments is right Dakota: 6,0-7,0 If Rohan do as expected he will be at reserve by the first set of green sheets Cameron: 5,0 Massive talent but don't think too much should be expected especially away from home. still only 16! Total 50-53 points... definitely championship potential as they should all be better when the play offs come round than at the start of the season. Obviously this means all 7 will need a good improving season, and no injuries. But it's looking good on paper Those averages you forecast are huge increases on their present ones and perhaps some can actually achieve those but all 7 riders is a big ask. I think on new equipement Kevin can certainly improve a great deal and who knows could become that no1 we need but expect an average of 8 from him. Morten I can see improving but by perhaps 0.5 - 1.0 points. Matt without long track commitments can improve a little say 0.5. Taylor certainly can improve about 1.0 I would say. Dakota I expect to stay about the same as he is great at foxhall but away not so sure. Then we come to the reserves who we are all raging about. Rohan Ive never seen so have to go on his Aussie form which has been great, so will expect an improvement on his 5 to something like 6.5 perhaps. Cameron is a fantastic talent but as Chris Louis says needs to learn to gate he cannot always come from the back. So an improvement from 3 to around 4.5 sounds plausable to me. So now adding my possible averages up its 8.0,7.3,7.4,7.9,5.6,6.5 & 4.5 = 47.2 I feel these are realistic averages to hope for without getting carried away and obviously they all have to stay clear of injuries to achieve these. Otherwise I expect some of those to dip below what I forecast. I will stick with my forecast of finishing in the top 6 and leave it at that. I think Kevin Doolan is capable of getting back to his best and therefore would be a genuine number 1. he's a great lad, i hope it happens for him. Make no mistake, the witches will be in the hunt!! Could not agree more about Kevin being a great lad reddan. He is also a great captain the best Pete has worked with he says and knowing all this lets all hope he gets his act together on track and achieve that genuine no1 status. But remember its a huge increase from 7.19 to whats needed but heres hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Risager will never improve. Come over at 16 and got a 4.8 average in the 1-5 of a poor team, following year got 5.6 in a good team flitting betters resevere and the team proper and he's basically do the same every season since. He has good spells and looks like he's going to make it then has a poor spell and looks like a NL rider. Morten will average 6 in 2012. He may even have spell in reserve with that kind of average in this team. I've also never got Doolan, I'm sure his few years as a 9+ rider were the exception, he's an 8ish rider, there may be a little improvement. It's the 2 reserved that'll do all the improving. Edited February 4, 2012 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Morten will average 6 in 2012. He'll average 7+. He averaged nearly 6 and a half last season during which he severed part of his finger in a horrific crash. It took him an awful long time to get his confidence back but improved as the season went on. Injury free, he'll put at least a point on his starting average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Risager is to bi-polar to be ever be a 8.00 + man IMO, he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous. He will have to many races in a season when he just tails of a bad last to a reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Risager will never improve. Come over at 16 and got a 4.8 average in the 1-5 of a poor team, following year got 5.6 in a good team flitting betters resevere and the team proper and he's basically do the same every season since. He has good spells and looks like he's going to make it then has a poor spell and looks like a NL rider. Morten will average 6 in 2012. He may even have spell in reserve with that kind of average in this team. I've also never got Doolan, I'm sure his few years as a 9+ rider were the exception, he's an 8ish rider, there may be a little improvement. It's the 2 reserved that'll do all the improving. Doolan at his best is a late 8ish 9 pt man, and i agree with Catch 22 i think Risager will average over 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I mainly agree with what you say, but think morten could average 7 if he learns to gate again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 All of the top 5 can improve by half a point (at least) Rohan by up to 2 points depending on how much time he spends at reserve and Heeps by at least a point and a half. Barring injuries there is potential for real powerhouse team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Should be interesting to see what they do improve by. The same was said about last years team, but not all improved and those that did wasn't by much, speedway can be a strange sport at times. Given an injury free run our 2 starting reserves should put the most on their averages. Most of all though we have Atleast 4 racers to provide some excellent entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 He'll average 7+. He averaged nearly 6 and a half last season during which he severed part of his finger in a horrific crash. It took him an awful long time to get his confidence back but improved as the season went on. Injury free, he'll put at least a point on his starting average. 6.17 is closer to 6 than 6.5 but I Fo accept it was a nasty injury, I'm not sure it was enough to take a point off his average. Funny rider Morten, I used to think he had something about him, I've seen him pass Crump, Andersen and Bjarne while they were all at their best but him seen him passed by PL second strings in the same meeting. It just makes me think he'll always struggle to get any more than 6. I remember being laughed at 12 months ago for suggesting he would struggle to get 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 i could see the team ending p like this: Doolan: 9,5 with new equipment Risager: 8,5-9,0 with the comments made earlier Taylor: 7,0-7,50 Rohan: 7,0-7,50 Matt: 7,0-7,50 with more track knowledge and no long track commitments is right Dakota: 6,0-7,0 If Rohan do as expected he will be at reserve by the first set of green sheets Cameron: 5,0 Massive talent but don't think too much should be expected especially away from home. still only 16! Total 50-53 points... definitely championship potential as they should all be better when the play offs come round than at the start of the season. Obviously this means all 7 will need a good improving season, and no injuries. But it's looking good on paper Speedway very rarely works out like that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) 6.17 is closer to 6 than 6.5 but I Fo accept it was a nasty injury, I'm not sure it was enough to take a point off his average. Funny rider Morten, I used to think he had something about him, I've seen him pass Crump, Andersen and Bjarne while they were all at their best but him seen him passed by PL second strings in the same meeting. It just makes me think he'll always struggle to get any more than 6. I remember being laughed at 12 months ago for suggesting he would struggle to get 7. I think the injury was enough to take a point off his average. When the injury happened at Rye, he was starting to ride very well after an average start and was banging in double figures. The injury really was awful and the pics he showed on his return made you feel physically sick. When he came back he was very very tentative and it took him a lot longer to recover than Chris Louis admitted he hoped. But slowly but surely he again began to improve at the tail end of the season. I don't think an average of at least 7 for Morten Risager is over ambitious. The more you look at our side, the more impressive it looks. You can see EVERY rider chipping in with steady scores that more often than not will total 45+. There really isn't a duffer in there is there? Edited February 4, 2012 by CardinalSin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 no you got no Duffers in your team But you have got no British riders either should not be allowed its disgusting Chris Louis what are you doing at Mildenhall whats the point if you dont give british riders a team place now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovey Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 no you got no Duffers in your team But you have got no British riders either should not be allowed its disgusting Chris Louis what are you doing at Mildenhall whats the point if you dont give british riders a team place now. Cos he hasn't got any British riders that are up to competitive PL standard at the moment ... maybe in 2013, if the lads at Mildenhall make the hoped-for progress. Huge investment in time and effort by Louis, Lee & Jolly, but it will not happen instantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 no you got no Duffers in your team But you have got no British riders either should not be allowed its disgusting Chris Louis what are you doing at Mildenhall whats the point if you dont give british riders a team place now. We had 3 last year. This year the best possible septet was put together by the promotion that just happened to not include a British rider. They're not going to put one in there just for the sake of having a British rider if he's not the best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 no you got no Duffers in your team But you have got no British riders either should not be allowed its disgusting Chris Louis what are you doing at Mildenhall whats the point if you dont give british riders a team place now. Another patriotic fanatic who probably goes to bed in his union jack pants signing god save the queen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Another patriotic fanatic who probably goes to bed in his union jack pants signing god save the queen. SIGNING god save the queen? how does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) SIGNING god save the queen? how does that work? I think you'll find it what some deaf people do!!! Edited February 6, 2012 by Mr Snackette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan 1991 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think you'll find it what some deaf people do!!! but surely not in the dark with your union jack pants on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 but surely not in the dark with your union jack pants on What some deaf people do in the privacy of their own home is up to them........and don't call me Shirley!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 We had 3 last year. This year the best possible septet was put together by the promotion that just happened to not include a British rider. They're not going to put one in there just for the sake of having a British rider if he's not the best option All you lot just dont get it we dont give our own grown riders the chance to step up,we just go on signing overseas riders.Poland have a restriction on non poles in there teams so that they use their own and look how they produce good riders .Then we sign em over a british lad then moan that we are not producing any good riders.The national league is doing a great job bringing riders on then they hit a brick wall called premire league who are allowed to fill there teams with foreign riders and bring them on this is repeated every year what i would like to see is a limmit put on like the poles do and get on with helping our own lads come through not rocket sience i am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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