Mr Snackette Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) Baldyman.....you are cock on! Tungate and Heeps were quoted as being the reserves when they expected Lasse to come back. Now they need to get a proper No.1, Hart comes back into the equation. The other "4" are much of a muchness, so we need to get the boy Jerran back to make a big number at the top. Its not all bad, the boy has ability and might surprise people if he stays on, listens to people who know a bit and gets his kit sorted out. Tiger boy needs to get that big name on board to sell season tickets, thats nothing to do with speedway, just sound business practice. What absolute nonsense. It was known for some months that Young Bjerre would not be at Foxhall, not just by the promotion but by many others as well. CL confirmed this in Mike Bacon's piece in the EADT: “I’m very disappointed,” Witches director of speedway, Chris Louis admitted. “He was the first one down on our team sheet for next season, but we were made aware Peterborough may want him in 2012 some months ago, so we had always planned for this.........." So it was known some months ago and they had always planned for it. Consequently Heeps and Tungate will start in the reserve berths, providing Tungate retains a five point assessed average. If what my spies tell me are correct, then the seventh rider can be accommodated regardless whether Tungate is assessed at five or six. Interestingly the BSPA site have now appended an asterisk against Scunthorpe's Armstrong's average. Edited December 3, 2011 by Mr Snackette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 If what my spies tell me are correct, then the seventh rider can be accommodated regardless whether Tungate is assessed at five or six. I may well be adding 2+2 and coming up with 9, but i immediately thought Dakota North when i read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) What absolute nonsense. It was known for some months that Young Bjerre would not be at Foxhall, not just by the promotion but by many others as well. CL confirmed this in Mike Bacon's piece in the EADT: "I'm very disappointed," Witches director of speedway, Chris Louis admitted. "He was the first one down on our team sheet for next season, but we were made aware Peterborough may want him in 2012 some months ago, so we had always planned for this.........." So it was known some months ago and they had always planned for it. Consequently Heeps and Tungate will start in the reserve berths, providing Tungate retains a five point assessed average. If what my spies tell me are correct, then the seventh rider can be accommodated regardless whether Tungate is assessed at five or six. Interestingly the BSPA site have now appended an asterisk against Scunthorpe's Armstrong's average. We'll see! "If what my spies tell me" PMSL ! Edited December 3, 2011 by Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) We'll see! "If what my spies tell me" PMSL ! I don't really understand the point you are trying to make. Your assertion in an earlier post that Young Bjerre's move to Awalton came as a sudden surprise resulting in long term plans having to be hurriedly rearranged, has been proved to be a complete fallacy and makes complete nonsense of your earlier argument, which is now totally discredited. On a point of information, can I respectfully remind you of Forum Rules: "Please post in plain language avoiding the use of text abbreviations" From my limited knowledge of text speak it would appear that you are suffering from some form of incontinence or bladder disorder. I appreciate that this condition can result in some cognitive impairment, so perhaps we should all be a little more understanding. Wishing you a speedy recovery!!!!! Edited December 3, 2011 by Mr Snackette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't really understand the point you are trying to make. Your assertion in an earlier post that Young Bjerre's move to Awalton came as a sudden surprise resulting in long term plans having to be hurriedly rearranged, has been proved to be a complete fallacy and makes complete nonsense of your earlier argument, which is now totally discredited. On a point of information, can I respectfully remind you of Forum Rules: "Please post in plain language avoiding the use of text abbreviations" From my limited knowledge of text speak it would appear that you are suffering from some form of incontinence or bladder disorder. I appreciate that this condition can result in some cognitive impairment, so perhaps we should all be a little more understanding. Wishing you a speedy recovery!!!!! Just how funny are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 So by knowing Lasse would be off, wouldn't it have made more sense finding a rider that would take our team average near the 42,5 mark and not near 41, or am i just missing something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 So by knowing Lasse would be off, wouldn't it have made more sense finding a rider that would take our team average near the 42,5 mark and not near 41, or am i just missing something here. You're probably missing that none of us have a clue what the team total is going to be yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 So by knowing Lasse would be off, wouldn't it have made more sense finding a rider that would take our team average near the 42,5 mark and not near 41, or am i just missing something here. Not missing a thing.....despite what others have said, this time last weekend his Thursday's were still free. If they din't have a plan 'B' they need one now. Bring back Hart and have a better No. 1. Hope you can see this as others don't seem to be able to grasp this concept!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 So by knowing Lasse would be off, wouldn't it have made more sense finding a rider that would take our team average near the 42,5 mark and not near 41, or am i just missing something here. I think you are!! You can build a team at bang on 42.5, but if that team has little or no room for improvement then you will stagnate. It matters not what average a rider has at the start of the season, the only figure that counts is the average a rider finishes the season. Based on what I have heard I have every confidence that the team will show a significant increase over the year, and as a result will be serious title contenders. However I feel this matters little, as far more importantly it will be a team that will excite and entertain both home and away, which is, in my opinion, far more meaningful than winning championships. This whole discussion reminds of the start of the 1990 season. Mark Loram had gone off to ride for the Deadbeets, two untried Aussies were at reserve, and the view was that Norris was no replacement for Loram. Had it not been for a Monday evening in Exeter when The Frog and Greeny wipped out half the team, I think 1990 would have been one of the Witches most successful years. Clearly to be successful, a team has to be lucky with injuries, and if Ipswich are lucky, 2012 could be a very memorable year!! Not missing a thing.....despite what others have said, this time last weekend his Thursday's were still free. If they din't have a plan 'B' they need one now. Bring back Hart and have a better No. 1. Hope you can see this as others don't seem to be able to grasp this concept!!!! So basically you are suggesting that CL was lying when he spoke with Mike Bacon. Read the quote again......THEY KNEW MONTHS AGO.........and had ALWAYS PLANNED for this. Clearly your unfortunate medical condition is continuing to impact upon your cerebral reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I do get what you are saying Mr s., I would be very happy with Dakota north if its him. Some fans would like to win titles over entertainmet though. If a team wins titles it then has a higher chance of attracting bigger sponsors and possibly higher crowds. Personally I like to be entertained by racers, but it would be nice to win the title again. Only towards the end of the season we will see if the team was built the right way or not. Oh and the crowd levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequered Flag Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I hope there is at least one Brit in the team whether it is or isn't hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I hope there is at least one Brit in the team whether it is or isn't hart. I hope they've assembled the best seven riders they possibly could, regardless of where they were born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequered Flag Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I hope they've assembled the best seven riders they possibly could, regardless of where they were born. and that's one of the reason we have no top British riders because no one wants to give them a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 But Workington have given two young Brits a chance, Newcastle two more, Scunthorpe another. If the authorities pulled their fingers out and sorted youth racing out properly then no doubt there would be plenty of Brits around for everyone. And I expect you guys would be using Blackbird if you hadn't unearthed two cracking Aussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 and that's one of the reason we have no top British riders because no one wants to give them a chance. Perhaps if you want to see more Brits at Foxhall, you should be canvassing JL & CL to enter a team in the Midland Devolopment League. As I and others have said this would be a useful adjunct to their Mildenhall interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequered Flag Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) I'm not having a dig solely at the Ipswich promotion but until the BSPA et al do something about British youth speedway it's up promoters to give 'our' youngsters as many oppurtunities as possible. Rather than giving endless streams of foreign riders everything on a plate. I have no problem with foreign riders riding in Britain but I find it sickening that you see Aussies,Poles etc turning up in vans provided by the club and seeing young Brits turning up in there own cars. Edited December 4, 2011 by Chequered Flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 cant blame promotors for building a team they think will be competative but when they sign a foreign rider above a british 1 who looks equal then thats another story there is some foreign riders towards the bottom runners that get signed year after year and dont seam to get any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ........I find it sickening that you see Aussies,Poles etc turning up in vans provided by the club and seeing young Brits turning up in there (sic) own cars. I don't reckon you'll be seeing too many Poles in either League in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treborbee Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Chris Schramm explained this to me, often British riders choose not to have a van paid for by the club, and then get more points money. I't doesn't mean that foreign riders cost more than british, they just need a van, accomodation etc. because they don't live in the UK all year. So they choose to go down on their points money to have those things paid for. At the end of the day all promoters is going for the riders they think fits in to their team best. thats business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Chris Schramm explained this to me, often British riders choose not to have a van paid for by the club, and then get more points money. I't doesn't mean that foreign riders cost more than british, they just need a van, accomodation etc. because they don't live in the UK all year. So they choose to go down on their points money to have those things paid for. At the end of the day all promoters is going for the riders they think fits in to their team best. thats business Thats how it works...for your average British 6 pointer it's as broad as its long. What do points make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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