Lioness Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hes been found guilty,theres no need for an admittion,but one might help him. Again not meaning to split hairs but my reading of it is there has been guilt established in so far as the silencer had been tampered with - I cant find anything where Kennett says he tampered with it. not saying he hasnt, just that maybe we should wait until thats confirmed just in case (although I admit, like most, I have made my own mind up perhaps its better to wait til its proven!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheart Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Can't wait to hear Shovlars take on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 "He accepts the findings" is not an admission of guilt I agree. But I would say that the general essense of the press release suggests he has, in some way made an admission of his guilt as they are the ones mentioning cheating. Either way, it still remains that the silencer was illegal and whatever the circumstances, the buck stops with him and I still maintain that his position is untenable... Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I must say that I am very impressed with the reaction of Coventry management and their fans on here. It is good to see that sort of attitude to cheating, which I think has to be dealt with severely, both as a justified punishment for the crime and as a deterrent to others. Edited August 7, 2011 by Aces51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) As much as we want to win we cannot condone cheating, Its more or less proven, His points have been deducted, He was the captain leading by example, Its simple he has to go !!! Edited August 7, 2011 by dornier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I've commented before that Kennett seems to have a leap this seaso, and we may now know why. There are at least three other riders who have made huge improvements to their starting average, two of whom against the grain of their recent form. Just makes you wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Scott Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Shouldn’t we let the due process of the disciplinary procedures take place first rather than rush to prematurely judge, castigate and scapegoat Edward Kennett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayStud09 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 If Hagon dump him that will be a HUGE loss for him. He obviously needs to face the music of the SCB and Bees management. An apology to the Bees fans would be a start. But much like Havelock, who had a drug ban for all of 1990 and yet was World Champ in 1992, once he has served his penalty he has the right to come back. But he will need to make serious amends to be worthy of trust again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Shouldn’t we let the due process of the disciplinary procedures take place first rather than rush to prematurely judge, castigate and scapegoat Edward Kennett? This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Surely all an "adequate replacement" needs to be is someone with a bike thats not illegal. If thats some 16 year old kid who gets lapped then thats what it takes. I'd prefer to lose legally than win illegally. Yes, agree 100%. I view Speedway as a team sport above individuals, if asked to describe it, and the act of one individual has sabotaged the efforts of his team-mates, and deceived the paying public. Sabotaging something mechanically on a speedway bike has to be up there with doping a horse, or an athlete taking drugs. It is planned long in advance of the event. Good quick response from Coventry and really killed the story, cannot see Kennett returning to Coventry and would want him banned at least for the remainder of the season to prevent him profiting from average manipulation, at Coventry or elsewhere, for a move next year. Wonder if Poole will sign him next season, certainly a unique way of putting in a transfer request Shame Nicholls or Harris haven't dropped their averages enough to swap with Kennett. Schlein? Edited August 7, 2011 by Authorised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Without casting aspertions, and without passing particular comment on Edward Kennett, can we believe that he is the only rider to have ridden at an advantage with a 'doctored' silencer? I would sincerely hope so; and in making this observation I can definitely state with confidence that the Gaffer's silencers are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 A few have posted that it was the exterior of the silencer that had been tampered with and therefore made it illegal. As someone with some knowledge of how a Speedway bike works, I fail to see how any alterations to the outside of a silencer which would then class is as illegal. Surely all you can do to the outside is weld any cracks that may have delevoped?? Maybe there's tricks of the trade that us amatuers dont know about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Not sticking up for him - but has he actually admitted it? Or have I missed the press release/statement where hes admitted anything? Genuine question Taken fron Coventry website OFFICIAL STATEMENT Sunday August 07, 2011 COVENTRY Speedway and Edward Kennett accept the findings of the technical examinations of silencers following the Elite League fixture at Lakeside on Saturday. I'd say, yes. On a different note, I believe there have been various checks and protests made already this year. Jerran Hart being one of them, whilst guesting for Somerset and once when riding for Ipswich. Edited August 7, 2011 by Najjer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarvel Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I've commented before that Kennett seems to have a leap this seaso, and we may now know why. There are at least three other riders who have made huge improvements to their starting average, two of whom against the grain of their recent form. Just makes you wonder... sure there is defo more out there doing it, interesting tweet from Scott Nicholls on this. however if others are it is not right for Ed and he has to go. Season over for the bees which is sad considering how good it all looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 How do they prove it, they can't. It doesn't remove the doubt though... I can't see how he can remain at Coventry. He's tampered with his silencer, knowing is was illegal. He's admitted it. To me it makes his position untenable.. They probably can prove when the silencer was purchased and it may be reasonable to assume that it has been used since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesfan81 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Let's all calm down a minute and take a look at the 'facts' that we know at the minute. 1 - Edward Kennett's silencer used in last nights meeting was deemed illegal. 2 - Edwards points have been removed and the reult ammended. 3 - Edward has been given the standard punishment for an offense thus far i.e a 7 day ban and a hearing to plead his case. Everything else from here on is just talk and assumptions. Before anyone calls the hangman I think we should all wait for the statement / statements that confirm exactly what the allegations are. As others on here have said it may be a case of the silencer being altered in a way not to give an advantage but still an illegal change, IF this is the case then it is a case of stupidity rather than cheating. If the silencer was changed in a way to gain an advantage then did he know about it? Difficult one to prove one way or the other unless it is admitted: - Yes - He should be dealt with the same as people who use performance enhansing drugs and banned, possibly for good. There is no room for cheats. - No - So who's fault is it?. Ultimately Eddie is responsible for his bikes and therefore is still guilty in a sence. Bottom line is no-one knows the whole facts yet and until we do he should not be hounded out of the sport. Innocent until proven guilty springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I think Coventry Speedway are waiting for it to be made official then I think Eddie will be up the road, He has let his team mates down and all the fans, dont think he can show his face at Coventry again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is sad and bad news Over the years there's been tonnes of cheating of one form or another, most riders lucky to have not been found out ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Again not meaning to split hairs but my reading of it is there has been guilt established in so far as the silencer had been tampered with - I cant find anything where Kennett says he tampered with it. not saying he hasnt, just that maybe we should wait until thats confirmed just in case (although I admit, like most, I have made my own mind up perhaps its better to wait til its proven!) Fair point but as I posted earlier ever rider should be responsible for his kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'd say, yes. All we can be absolutely sure of is that Coventry & Kennett accept that there is something wrong with Kennett's silencer, and that Kennett - as the rider - has to be responsible for that. The full facts will emerge, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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