Bomo1 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 As this rumbles on and on, I'm pleased that Davey Watt has called for complete transparancy over this issue, with every club ensuring that a system is in place for every silencer to be tested at every meeting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 As this rumbles on and on, I'm pleased that Davey Watt has called for complete transparancy over this issue, with every club ensuring that a system is in place for every silencer to be tested at every meeting! Completely agree there needs to be standardised checks of equipment at all clubs to ensure that all is above board going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Exactly - one is guilty the other is innocent. Kennett is guilty of using an illegal silencer at one meeting. With no proof that he's used it before how can you even suggest other points be taken away?? If a murderer gets caught you charge him for that offense.. you don't say "he's been guilty of this murder so therefore he must of done it before, lets charge him of other murders" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Quite right. He has no known previous so how can EK be charged with anything other than the Lakeside offense? Does that mean that a looter found guilty of nicking a TV should have all the family possessions taken away because they MIGHT have been stolen as well? The law is being changed so that looters lose their council house. Even though they might be right up to date with the rent. They might also lose all social benefits as well. That TV they nicked will be ab expensive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Kennett is guilty of using an illegal silencer at one meeting. With no proof that he's used it before how can you even suggest other points be taken away?? But there is a very big likelyhood that he has used it before the Lakeside meeting. Only Kennett knows nd he is not likely to go blabbing about when it started, unless there's an incentive for him to come clean with a reduced sentence and fine. The problem is, that because he was caught using an illegal silencer, it brings into question every meeting that he rode in using the King silencer. All those points Coventry picked up with Eddie Kennett riding are tainted because there is a clear doubt that the points were scored fairly. There's no getting away from that. Coventry fans may argue that its a typical remark from me but I would say the same regardless of which rider and which team. And why I believe that all his points scored in 2011 should be expunged from the records and results adjusted accordingly. Terribly unfortunate it's Eddie Kennett. I hope he comes back and stronger and better for it after servig his sentence. Easily my favourite British rider and one rider I always look to see what he has scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The fundamentalist zealots of the Wimborne Road Grandstand strike again. Fresh from lustily booing Chris Harris for the heinous crime of underperforming in an Aces race-jacket, therefore clearly manipulating his average the better to benefit the evil Bees for next season, they now want Kennett expunged from the season. Where will it end? Gordon Kennett stripped of his World Championship second in 1978? White City to lose their Championship pennant from the previous year, because of Uncle Gordon's murky links with the Weslake concern? Surely Kennett was not acting alone? You trying to tell me his team mates and management didn't know? Ban them all, especially that Larsen one with the suspicious surname. It is so good that one club and it's followers are standing firm against all the underhand practices prevalent in the Sport today. Edited August 12, 2011 by salty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 But there is a very big likelyhood that he has used it before the Lakeside meeting. Only Kennett knows nd he is not likely to go blabbing about when it started, unless there's an incentive for him to come clean with a reduced sentence and fine. The problem is, that because he was caught using an illegal silencer, it brings into question every meeting that he rode in using the King silencer. All those points Coventry picked up with Eddie Kennett riding are tainted because there is a clear doubt that the points were scored fairly. There's no getting away from that. Coventry fans may argue that its a typical remark from me but I would say the same regardless of which rider and which team. And why I believe that all his points scored in 2011 should be expunged from the records and results adjusted accordingly. Terribly unfortunate it's Eddie Kennett. I hope he comes back and stronger and better for it after servig his sentence. Easily my favourite British rider and one rider I always look to see what he has scored. The problem is that most of the meetings ridden in Britain this season are probably tainted. I'd be surprised if there was a single team in the country without at least one rider that's tampered with a silencer. Plenty of rumours about on Wednesday that Kennett's stable mates have all been on the fiddle, but there's simply no grounds for removing points based on assumptions and rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafski Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 The modification carried out on Eddie's silencer was such a pathetic attempt it was hardly worth doing as it does not improve the power, does not make the silencer flow any better and that is why it did not sound any louder. That's my understanding of things as well. I suppose any advantage gained is in the mind of the rider. He's told if you do this to your silencer the bike will fly, So and so have done it and look at them go, so having done the deed he ups his game to prove that it works for him as well. I'll get me coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 The law is being changed so that looters lose their council house. Even though they might be right up to date with the rent. They might also lose all social benefits as well. That TV they nicked will be ab expensive one. Are there still such things as council houses around? I thought they'd been taken over by housing associations by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 But there is a very big likelyhood that he has used it before the Lakeside meeting. Only Kennett knows nd he is not likely to go blabbing about when it started, unless there's an incentive for him to come clean with a reduced sentence and fine. The problem is, that because he was caught using an illegal silencer, it brings into question every meeting that he rode in using the King silencer. All those points Coventry picked up with Eddie Kennett riding are tainted because there is a clear doubt that the points were scored fairly. There's no getting away from that. Coventry fans may argue that its a typical remark from me but I would say the same regardless of which rider and which team. And why I believe that all his points scored in 2011 should be expunged from the records and results adjusted accordingly. Terribly unfortunate it's Eddie Kennett. I hope he comes back and stronger and better for it after servig his sentence. Easily my favourite British rider and one rider I always look to see what he has scored. SHUT UP ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul90210 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 But there is a very big likelyhood that he has used it before the Lakeside meeting. Only Kennett knows nd he is not likely to go blabbing about when it started, unless there's an incentive for him to come clean with a reduced sentence and fine. The problem is, that because he was caught using an illegal silencer, it brings into question every meeting that he rode in using the King silencer. All those points Coventry picked up with Eddie Kennett riding are tainted because there is a clear doubt that the points were scored fairly. There's no getting away from that. Coventry fans may argue that its a typical remark from me but I would say the same regardless of which rider and which team. And why I believe that all his points scored in 2011 should be expunged from the records and results adjusted accordingly. Terribly unfortunate it's Eddie Kennett. I hope he comes back and stronger and better for it after servig his sentence. Easily my favourite British rider and one rider I always look to see what he has scored. remind me again, how many points did chris holder score at wolves just after all this came out?, even the sky commentators mentioned that it was a bad meeting for him. Does that mean he was using one of the illegal silencers before that and should have his points stripped just in case??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBBY Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 But there is a very big likelyhood that he has used it before the Lakeside meeting. Only Kennett knows nd he is not likely to go blabbing about when it started, unless there's an incentive for him to come clean with a reduced sentence and fine. The problem is, that because he was caught using an illegal silencer, it brings into question every meeting that he rode in using the King silencer. All those points Coventry picked up with Eddie Kennett riding are tainted because there is a clear doubt that the points were scored fairly. There's no getting away from that. Coventry fans may argue that its a typical remark from me but I would say the same regardless of which rider and which team. And why I believe that all his points scored in 2011 should be expunged from the records and results adjusted accordingly. Terribly unfortunate it's Eddie Kennett. I hope he comes back and stronger and better for it after servig his sentence. Easily my favourite British rider and one rider I always look to see what he has scored. Steve mate....get real....supposition doesn't work in law....you need factual evidence to even take anything into consideration, without that it would be inadmissable in any hearing no mater how small or big that hearing is within any judicial system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 remind me again, how many points did chris holder score at wolves just after all this came out?, even the sky commentators mentioned that it was a bad meeting for him. Does that mean he was using one of the illegal silencers before that and should have his points stripped just in case??? He wasn't slow (far from it), he just had a bad meeting. Holder won heat one in, from memory, a very fast time, the quickest of the night. He then had a third in a Poole 4-2. His two blanks were both first turn disqualifications, one for losing control and bringing down Karlsson, one for falling himself. To take a rider's one-off poor score and then extrapolate it into possible previous dodgy silencer use surely stretches the bounds of common sense. But wait! Of course! Clearly he was still on a dodgy unit in heat one, heard the winning time and thought "Whoops, must lie low now! Two disqualifications should do it!" It all fits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 In the light of the news concerning Krzysztof Kasprzack and the recent comments by Ben Barker that all of a sudden riders are all buying new silencers and the many doubts raised regarding the revitalised performance of the Polish team at the World Cup, I would hope that the disciplinary committee show some leanience to EK who would now seem to be the unlucky first one to be found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Quite right. He has no known previous so how can EK be charged with anything other than the Lakeside offense? Does that mean that a looter found guilty of nicking a TV should have all the family possessions taken away because they MIGHT have been stolen as well? "Super Dave" would seem to think something along those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 remind me again, how many points did chris holder score at wolves just after all this came out?, even the sky commentators mentioned that it was a bad meeting for him. Does that mean he was using one of the illegal silencers before that and should have his points stripped just in case??? And wasn't one of the early season silencer problems connected to being unable to turn the bike And wasn't that Holder's problem at Monmore Green ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee the bee Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The fundamentalist zealots of the Wimborne Road Grandstand strike again. Fresh from lustily booing Chris Harris for the heinous crime of underperforming in an Aces race-jacket, therefore clearly manipulating his average the better to benefit the evil Bees for next season, they now want Kennett expunged from the season. Where will it end? Gordon Kennett stripped of his World Championship second in 1978? White City to lose their Championship pennant from the previous year, because of Uncle Gordon's murky links with the Weslake concern? Surely Kennett was not acting alone? You trying to tell me his team mates and management didn't know? Ban them all, especially that Larsen one with the suspicious surname. It is so good that one club and it's followers are standing firm against all the underhand practices prevalent in the Sport today. Buffoonery is best ignored. ......and posts from SS are gold medal candidates in that class every time. Edited August 12, 2011 by cee the bee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Kennett is guilty of using an illegal silencer at one meeting. With no proof that he's used it before how can you even suggest other points be taken away?? If a murderer gets caught you charge him for that offense.. you don't say "he's been guilty of this murder so therefore he must of done it before, lets charge him of other murders" Who says he is being charged with using the silencer in other meetings??? I havent suggested anything other than guilty as charged. The correct points were already taken away (his points and coventry`s points for the Lakeside meeting). You cant charge on retrospect - unless there is proof to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 In the light of the news concerning Krzysztof Kasprzack and the recent comments by Ben Barker that all of a sudden riders are all buying new silencers and the many doubts raised regarding the revitalised performance of the Polish team at the World Cup, I would hope that the disciplinary committee show some leanience to EK who would now seem to be the unlucky first one to be found out. What, a post or two on here? Or have I missed something official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) What, a post or two on here? Or have I missed something official? He didn't say it was official, just that there have been doubts. How unexpected was KK's 15 point maximum at Lynn considering his poor form almost everehere up to that point? How many people commented on his strange turn of form at the time? Comments like: One last thing, surely there are two Krzysztof Kasprzak's around, that cant be the same rider that has been riding for us this season. On this evidence why are Elite League reserves beating him. What's the possibility of that being the "trial" meeting and then sharing the secret with Team Poland after the meeting? What are the chances that Poland would be reluctant to resort to such measures unless things got desperate? How many people commented on the sudden burst of form in the final after looking dead and buried? Comments like: I can underatand coming back and winning races, but coming back and dominating so completely in 6 seperate heats. Every Polish rider had 1 race where they were miles faster than every other rider, and then they tailed off slightly. Now, why would their first and last rides be ordinary in comparison I wonder? What happens to the bikes when each rider comes in from their final ride? These are the doubts that we now have as a result of events of the last week. Edited August 12, 2011 by ImpartialOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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