wolfy Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 For once in my life I find myself in the very rare position of agreeing with Mr Shovlar. If Eddie is found guilty at the tribunal then I would find it very hard to believe that his offence at Lakeside was his first breach of the regulations this season. As such the only sensible course to maintain the integrity of the 2011 Elite League would be to remove his points from all previous meetings raced. Cheating has to be removed from our sport and so the maximum deterrent applied in this case. This isn't about Coventry v Poole, it's about fair play and if all of Eddie's previous points remain intact then the league is a sham. Unless written into the rule book and they can prove when he started using the said silencer I would of thought it would be dodgy ground to remove points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Stripping all this seasons points is quite frankly ludicrous. Why stop this year? Perhaps we should take away all his career points and then we can sign him on a 3 point average next year. Fair play and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 in refering to Noddy,all well and good but he needs to remember that it is his Poole performance that hads gotten him into the GP's, so yes there should be critisism. Tired because he is doing too many meetings, then look at your calender and make sacrifises.,and decide who is or what team has you priority. The british fans pay to see riders and excuses like I am tired doesnt cut it,Was nt it said he was driving go carts on monday before wolves, sorry thats unacceptable. But he will be at GP this weekend and smiling having tested on friday , but stuff you Poole fans someone can guest for me. IM'E OK JACK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 true it should be hard but fair. I also believe for complete fairness Eddies scores for the season should be expunged from the league and results adjusted accordingly. Unfortunately this has brought disrepute on Coventry results and in the name of fair play, the Coventry management should be asking for this as a sign that they don't wish to benefit from illegal points scoring, I would like to think the ban would be no more than the remainder of this season. Yes that would surely see that Poole don't have to face Coventry in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 For once in my life I find myself in the very rare position of agreeing with Mr Shovlar. If Eddie is found guilty at the tribunal then I would find it very hard to believe that his offence at Lakeside was his first breach of the regulations this season. As such the only sensible course to maintain the integrity of the 2011 Elite League would be to remove his points from all previous meetings raced. Cheating has to be removed from our sport and so the maximum deterrent applied in this case. This isn't about Coventry v Poole, it's about fair play and if all of Eddie's previous points remain intact then the league is a sham. Thank god someone else sees the light. Thought I was he only one to come up with this completely logical conclusion. For the league to remain fair and honest and not a complete sham, ALL points scored by Eddie Kennett in 2011 should be removed. If they are not, the league is completely tainted as Coventry could have picked up illegal points and could get a playoff place to the detriment of the team whos riders played fair. Yes, in doing so Coventry will probably find the playoffs a step too far but surely their fans won't mind as their team will be "clean". It'd unfortunate it's Coventry. It could have been any club, including Poole. If it had been Poole I would not wanted to have entered the playoffs knowing there was a possibility that we were there by foul means. Of course there are the usual mob who will say it's a Poole V Coventry thing, but that is not the case. I feel very sad it's Eddie Kennett and not one of the Poles or foreigners. Out of all the Brits I like Eddie Kennett and personally hope the sentence he will receive won't be to make an example out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Thank god someone else sees the light. Thought I was he only one to come up with this completely logical conclusion. For the league to remain fair and honest and not a complete sham, ALL points scored by Eddie Kennett in 2011 should be removed. If they are not, the league is completely tainted as Coventry could have picked up illegal points and could get a playoff place to the detriment of the team whos riders played fair. Yes, in doing so Coventry will probably find the playoffs a step too far but surely their fans won't mind as their team will be "clean". It'd unfortunate it's Coventry. It could have been any club, including Poole. If it had been Poole I would not wanted to have entered the playoffs knowing there was a possibility that we were there by foul means. Of course there are the usual mob who will say it's a Poole V Coventry thing, but that is not the case. I feel very sad it's Eddie Kennett and not one of the Poles or foreigners. Out of all the Brits I like Eddie Kennett and personally hope the sentence he will receive won't be to make an example out of him. Wait, I thought Coventry making the play-offs wouldn't be "clean" anyway, even before the Kennett situation? Remember, they're 1.18 over the limit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 in refering to Noddy,all well and good but he needs to remember that it is his Poole performance that hads gotten him into the GP's, so yes there should be critisism. There was me thinking he got into the GPs because he raced in the qualifying rounds and finished 2nd in the qualifcation final at Coventry in 2009, then finished in the series top 8 last year. Thanks for correcting me and making me aware that it was actually his performances for Poole that got him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC! Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A banquet for the trolls tonight!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A banquet for the trolls tonight!!! He'll be forgiven when his book comes out in a few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A banquet for the trolls tonight!!! I'm sure one of them will be tucking in when it wakes up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I'm sure one of them will be tucking in when it wakes up He'll eat the whole internet one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Everything is about coventry and poole where mr shovlar is concerned My goodness me! Yet another anonymous newbie who joins up and immediately starts having a pop at Steve and attempting to turn this topic into yet another Cov/Poole thread, just as other members tried to cloud the issue by invoking Madsen & Holder. It`s sleep APNOEA Spot on Steve. Having just lugged my 5 & 1/2 kg VPAP across half of the planet I can tell you it can be a pain; plays havoc with my Baggage Allowance. Mind you, it's nice being able to sleep properly without having to have recourse to drugs & alcohol. Edited August 11, 2011 by BigFatDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Well - I feel sorry for Edward Kennett. I think there may be a lot more than him involved in this sort of thing. That's not to say I condone it - I don't - but I bet he is not alone........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Well - I feel sorry for Edward Kennett. I think there may be a lot more than him involved in this sort of thing. That's not to say I condone it - I don't - but I bet he is not alone........... Oh, for sure. He was just the one who got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 He'll eat the whole internet one day. So that's why they're called mega bytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy M Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I agree with you both.i dont agree with what hes done.IF hes done it.but he wont be the first and certainly not the last,but i do feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4backin Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Dont know if anybody has mentioned this cant be bothered trawling through all the pages.What if the modification has been made and the silencer is still within the decibel limits.How would that affect his position or is the modification breaching some other rule ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 It'd unfortunate it's Coventry. It could have been any club, including Poole. If it had been Poole I would not wanted to have entered the playoffs knowing there was a possibility that we were there by foul means. What's wrong with your nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Dont know if anybody has mentioned this cant be bothered trawling through all the pages.What if the modification has been made and the silencer is still within the decibel limits.How would that affect his position or is the modification breaching some other rule ????? I did bring this up a few days ago but the regulation appears water tight in that silencers must not be modified in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 What's wrong with your nose? Is he getting wood over the prospect of no Coventry in the play offs I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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