Badge Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 All the trouble in the league is caused by lakeside if they are not whinging about averages they're whinging about money, if that doesn't work they are looking to grass up anyone who beats them. the sooner lakeside are back.in the lower tiers the better for British speedway Oh deep joy , the thought of having to visit Lakeside AND Dry Hose in a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Well it appears you're calling me a liar. Would you like to back that accusation up? So, it boils down to this. I'm still waiting for you to either back up your claim about me being a liar, or to remove it from you post. Mate, you really do think the world is out to get you don't you? Strange how you've been erroneously accusing me of "attacking the poster" rather than the post, and then you go and write a load of nonsense casting ill informed aspersions about my character. Hypocritical in the extreme. HS, you'll get nowhere feeding trolls, and asking one to back up their abuse on here is likely to attract the attention of more of them, squealing 'Mummy, the nasty man threatened me'. That is my view and I am entitled to it. Please tell me why I am not, for me it is relevant to the integrity of the sport. So I shall not comment on the topic any further. Simply put, if one gets away with blaming a mechanic, many riders can do the same until caught. Did Leon Madsen start the trend? And there was i thinking you might be true to your word. You didn't really expect that, did you? Don't think this thread should go much further until the results of the disciplinary hearing are known, until then it's just descending into personal abuse & petty point-scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 And you are surprised BFD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 And you are surprised BFD My flabber is well and truly gasted, Badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Inside a silencer courtesy of Peter Johns on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Never known a mechanic that had the power or the permission to radically change or do something that was cheating, without doing it with the riders knowledge or permission. It's beyond reality. Absolutely. So will KK join Leon Madsen and Eddie Kennett in blaming the mechanic? Like the comments on twitter from the likes of Hans Andersen, Scott Nicholls, Howe, Watt, Bridger and Johns. I don't think fellow riders will be letting this go somehow, and that can only be good for the integrity of the sport. Unfortunately, it does taint two of the EL Champions from last year - although they won that 'clean' as far as we know. I also see that riders and people here are now questioning how long KK has been at it, and that is my point about Kennett telling all....if no-one is going to say how many matches were unfair, and a few more riders get caught, 2011 will be a farce year; up there with the solid block tyres 15 years ago. In the words of Scott Nicholls, "@davidhoweracing it's a joke. Thing is now all riders that weren't quick but now are will have fingers pointed.wonder how many are cheating!" and Rory Schlein, "RorySchlein3 Rory Schlein @ @DavidWatt24 KK I new I should iv protested last night" They are both right, the integrity will not be on the one or two riders that are caught, it will be the sour grapes, finger pointing, when riders improve until you get a scenario when "everyones at it" then it stops becoming a sport. Chance to nip it in the bud, healthy fines, decent bans until start of 2012. Of course, Coventry won't sack him, he remains an asset. Many riders have been "sacked" but remain assets. Doesn't necessarily imply they will use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) you'll get nowhere feeding trolls Hungry again? Pushing 12,500 posts and still going....and your opinion is......? Another non-speedway post. This is an open forum: every member is entitled to post whatever they like as long as it's within the rules: it's a bit rich when someone with a brief but all-encompassing history of trouble-making decides to appoint itself as forum conscience INDEED, take some of your own advice that you shared on another thread. The only difference being your history is not brief. Anyway, it has been a long time since you quoted me, must be first time in 2011? I have had a very busy summer and contributed far less as a result, and you seemed to disappear for a while before that, banned or am I confusing you with someone else? Good to see you back and reading my posts. Edited August 10, 2011 by Authorised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hungry again? Pushing 12,500 posts and still going....and your opinion is......? Another non-speedway post. INDEED, take some of your own advice that you shared on another thread. The only difference being your history is not brief. Anyway, it has been a long time since you quoted me, must be first time in 2011? I have had a very busy summer and contributed far less as a result, and you seemed to disappear for a while before that, banned or am I confusing you with someone else? Good to see you back and reading my posts. Still waiting on you backing up your claim about Home Straight being a liar, mate. In the meantime, accusing someone of posting non-speedway posts is a bit rich coming from you, and what on earth has the number of my posts got to do with anything? If you'd actually bother to read other peoples' posts all the way through rather than jumping on a phrase out of context you may be quite surprised to find other peoples' opinions are right under your your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjamin Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Just a point why did't Kennett ride at Cardiff? How long has this been going on we need this sorted and we don't need to drag it out. 1 way forward would be clubs to buy 2 new silencers per rider and keep for each meeting to be handed out I hour before meeting then collected after meeting until this is resolved and all rider's exhaust's are checked and restamped! Any rider found with cheatng equipment should be banned with no excuses accepted as excuses mean loop holes and a get out clause! Ban's should be a for remainder of season for club, with a ban on representing country and riding in national championships for a year and a huge fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Apart from the fact that rules are rules, there are a number of people saying Ed Kennett should be punished and some say severely, but what are their reason? Is it simply the possible power advantage over other riders, so possible cheating or is it the potential problems for tracks over increased noise, which is the reason why the silencers were brought in, to protect against noise polution. To me, the biggest 'crime' is the jeopardy it could put clubs under, with increased noise. Birmingham for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Just a point why did't Kennett ride at Cardiff? How long has this been going on we need this sorted and we don't need to drag it out. 1 way forward would be clubs to buy 2 new silencers per rider and keep for each meeting to be handed out I hour before meeting then collected after meeting until this is resolved and all rider's exhaust's are checked and restamped! Any rider found with cheatng equipment should be banned with no excuses accepted as excuses mean loop holes and a get out clause! Ban's should be a for remainder of season for club, with a ban on representing country and riding in national championships for a year and a huge fine! Kennett has simply been caught for something dozens of other riders are guilty of. British speedway is on the floor as it is, so giving one of its brightest talents a lengthy ban serves no purpose at all. we just need certain clubs to stop dragging the sport through the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Sid Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 All the trouble in the league is caused by lakeside if they are not whinging about averages they're whinging about money, if that doesn't work they are looking to grass up anyone who beats them. the sooner lakeside are back.in the lower tiers the better for British speedway fantastic post, the irony in that from a cov fan........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Sid Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) Kennett has simply been caught for something dozens of other riders are guilty of. British speedway is on the floor as it is, so giving one of its brightest talents a lengthy ban serves no purpose at all. we just need certain clubs to stop dragging the sport through the mud. I think there are alot of fans from alot of teams that agree with your last comment my friend, well said Edited August 10, 2011 by Southend Sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalk11 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 No its not fair, he should get banned too. Why have 2 illegal silencers if there's no intent to use them. Havent his scores got better recently. Its a shame they announced Kennett was guilty as, within a week, they could probably have tested every UK Elite league rider. It will be extremely intersting to see what haapens to KK's scores now he's been rumbled. No-one could touch him at Brandon recently. Thought it was purely down to getting one over on his old team but maybe I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I have to say, he was one of the first names that sprang to mind when this came out. My immediate thoughts turned to the SWC, particularly at Kings Lynn. Was Kings Lynn where it all began? did he pass the secret on to his team mates for the final, who did one ride on normal silencers and then switched? A lot of people commented at the time how strange it was that they suddenly looked invincible. It may have been genuine, I'm just asking the questions you understand Are we talking Kennett or Kasprzak - both were at KL? Did they compare notes and both pass the info on to their team-mates, even before the KL leg? Why are you dragging the Poles into this en-bloc but not the rest of the Brits? Only one rider has been caught actually using a messed-about-with silencer and that's not the Pole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslan Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) DN newspaper Vetlanda won at home against Wolves with a 54-36. The match was played out the drama before the match when Wolves Krzysztof Kasprzak would inspect their bicycles. - Inspection team shone through mufflers and it turned out that Kasprzaks had holes drilled. But the team took the bikes into the bus, refused to open and when the bikes came out, it was second and approved damper on the said sports director Vetlanda Bosse Wirebrand. Edited August 10, 2011 by aslan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Are we talking Kennett or Kasprzak - both were at KL? Did they compare notes and both pass the info on to their team-mates, even before the KL leg? Why are you dragging the Poles into this en-bloc but not the rest of the Brits? Only one rider has been caught actually using a messed-about-with silencer and that's not the Pole! Why would you have two modified silencers in your kit ? Explain that. KK just as guilty as EK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy M Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Sorry to burst your bubble Tracey, but lovely, genuine people can and do make silly mistakes. It's a strange idea you have that somebody would not tamper with a bike to gain an advantage because they are pleasant to speak to. Why is it a strange idea i have?its just my opinion on him.all i meant was he dosent strike me as that sort of person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) Why would you have two modified silencers in your kit ? Explain that. KK just as guilty as EK My point was the inference that all the Poles could have been using dodgy silencers at the WTC (because one has subsequently been found carrying two) but no inference that all the Brits could also have been using dodgy silencers at the same event (because one has subsequently been found using one). Edited August 10, 2011 by Vincent Blackshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 All the trouble in the league is caused by lakeside if they are not whinging about averages they're whinging about money, if that doesn't work they are looking to grass up anyone who beats them. the sooner lakeside are back.in the lower tiers the better for British speedway Kennett has simply been caught for something dozens of other riders are guilty of. British speedway is on the floor as it is, so giving one of its brightest talents a lengthy ban serves no purpose at all. we just need certain clubs to stop dragging the sport through the mud. Your posts indicate that you think nothing of honesty and sportsmanship if your twisted logic leads you to blame Lakeside for bringing to light that someone has cheated. Does it mean nothing that in the process points money has potentially been taken from other riders and that a team could have gained an unfair advantage which could deprive another team(s) of a place in the play offs. How do you know "dozens of other riders" have done the same? Yes, there are the usual rumour mongers and comments from riders, some of whom are not riding well and of course that impartial source, Roscoe. It may, or, not be true but it in no way excuses anyone else. Cheating has no place in sport and when found has to be stamped out. The fact that Kennett is British has no bearing on the appropriate punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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