P T Preece Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 lmao, get a grip. This is motorsport. This goes on at every level in every competition in the world, including the big ones like Formula One and Nascar. Teams are always getting fined and crew chiefs suspended in Nascar for running with an illegal car. It still dosent make it right, you pudding, no matter what the sport, cheating is cheating, stamp it out, speedway has had a lot of bad Press this season. Its time to show the world we dont mess about with cheats and get some credit back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 If anything sums you up, it was you starting a thread entitled "Shovy" calling on him to contribute around 5pm. Good to see it, quite right in my opinion, got deleted. Perhaps if you concentrated less on posters rather than posts one day you will get a decent response. Grow up, son and no more starting threads about Mr Shovlar. We know who he is, don´t we?? If you don´t like my opinion, there is an ignore button, until then I have every right to express a view that may differ to yours. How you think it is a worthy contribute about what Ed Kennett thinks or not thinks is another matter, all I know is the FACT he got caught cheating. Perhaps if you know the inner thoughts of Kennett, you´d share them with us? Thought not. You clearly know NOTHING about me at all. Not that it has anything to do with this thread but I started a thread about Shovlar because I genuinely wondered why he wasn't here giving us his often bizarre opinions. Nothing more or less than that. Of course I don't know the inner thoughts of Eddie Kennett, and neither have I claimed to. Strange how you've been erroneously accusing me of "attacking the poster" rather than the post, and then you go and write a load of nonsense casting ill informed aspersions about my character. Hypocritical in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 It still dosent make it right, you pudding, no matter what the sport, cheating is cheating, stamp it out, speedway has had a lot of bad Press this season. Its time to show the world we dont mess about with cheats and get some credit back. Quite right. It is an integrity issue. If it is allowed once, it will spiral. This forum will be full of sour grapes. It already has enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 You clearly know NOTHING about me at all. Not that it has anything to do with this thread but I started a thread about Shovlar because I genuinely wondered why he wasn't here giving us his often bizarre opinions. Nothing more or less than that. Of course I don't know the inner thoughts of Eddie Kennett, and neither have I claimed to. Strange how you've been erroneously accusing me of "attacking the poster" rather than the post, and then you go and write a load of nonsense casting ill informed aspersions about my character. Hypocritical in the extreme. Your thread about Shovy is still there, it's just been moved to General discussions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I may be a bit slow as i suspect this has already been mentioned but apparently Kennett knew nothing about one of his crew tampering with his silencer,thats like Ben Johnson saying my coach gave me a drink,i didn't know what was in it. Your thread about Shovy is still there, it's just been moved to General discussions... Who authorised it to be moved!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Your thread about Shovy is still there, it's just been moved to General discussions... Ah cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 To be honest, I doubt very much whether Eddie Kennet gives a shiny shoot what you think. Of course I don't know the inner thoughts of Eddie Kennett, and neither have I claimed to. So what was the point of the first comment. Grow up, son, and stop hiding behind Shovlar. At least he contributes a view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Your thread about Shovy is still there, it's just been moved to General discussions... Not even in Speedway General Discussions then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) You're a real joy. It says "I doubt......" Just my opinion, I haven't claimed to "know" anything. Why do you keep banging on about Shovlar? I barely know him at all, I disagree with probably 70% of what he writes on here, and I certainly do not hide behind him. Also, despite your insistence to the contrary, I'm not your son. Also, if you care to read the thread you'll see on several occasions, I have offered my view on this subject. You'll note that I haven't attached a list of irrelevant demands before I'd accept Eddies apology. Edited August 9, 2011 by home straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 So what was the point of the first comment. Grow up, son, and stop hiding behind Shovlar. At least he contributes a view. Didn't you say earlier something about attack the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprog1 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 You posted that Shameks silencer was illegal. Twice. Shameks silencer was found to be legal. You posted saying there was more to come. You then had a go at Rosco for stating facts without any proof. You have proof but are still claiming facts that conflict it. Thats why I commented on irony. You have called Shamek (and Ryan Fisher) a cheat, the posts are still there, I have copies of them too. They've both been found innocent, you have no apologised. I think you are becoming completely paranoid. Somewhere on the tortuous journey between your eyes and your brain words are taking on a totally different meaning. At no stage did I post that Shameks silencer was illegal. That is a deliberate misquote on your part to try to be argumentative. I did mention that Shamek looked very uncomfortable, and so he did. Everybody commented on it. But I also qualified my comments with words you have chosen to ignore. I said:- "IF Pawlicki and Fishers silencers prove to be legal when tested then yes Coventry looked the best visiting side since the 2009 Wolves team." That does not sat Pawlicki's silencer was illegal, it simply implies waiting for the test results. I then went on :- "I would have said that Pawlicki was my MOTM if the silencer issue had not arisen AND HE STILL WILL BE IF THE TESTS ARE NEGATIVE......." I then said his absence from heat 15 was odd (and so did many other people) and commented on his body language. I fail to see how anyone, even in your disturbed mental state can interpret the words in bold print as meaning anything other than that I was full of praise for Pawlicki subject to the tests being negative (which they were). Moving on to the Roscoe remarks it is quite clear that the point being made, if you read the full context it is clear that the point being made was that I thought it very unwise for Roscoe to start making public comments about other riders when Coventry had made there public statement, Lakeside publicly accepted what what Coventry had said, Ed had made his public statement and the disciplinary hearing had yet to take place.. Perhaps you think it was a smart move by Roscoe to make his comments,and that would be your prerogative but many would not agree with you. Roscoe is a competent team manager but arguably the worlds worst PR man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) Also, if you care to read the thread you'll see on several occasions, I have offered my view on this subject. You'll note that I haven't attached a list of irrelevant demands before I'd accept Eddies apology. That is my view and I am entitled to it. Please tell me why I am not, for me it is relevant to the integrity of the sport. I do not believe he did not know about it, so if he can be honest and get his results corrected for the integrity of the competition and the fairness to other riders who rely on speedway for earnings then the sport. Oh, and I am a Coventry supporter, so it isn´t about the play-offs. I want to see the best 4 teams in there, on a level playing field. If Coventry aren´t good enough, I don´t want them cheating to get in. You will see that this stand in entirely consistent with my view on average manipulation, assessed or otherwise (engine failure reduced). FIM, however, set a precedent for cheating with Madsen. Didn´t he get away with blaming a mechanic. Didn't you say earlier something about attack the post. Yes. However, he wants to personalise at every opportunity. I cannot have an opinion, it is irrelevant to Eddie and him. So I shall not comment on the topic any further. Edited August 9, 2011 by Authorised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Oh for goodness sake, this is getting silly now. You are completely entitled to your own opinion, I have never stated otherwise. All i've said is that I doubt Ed Kennett is that fussed about it. I have not personalised this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Custer, with the greatest respect I don't know how you can keep harping on about how foolish you think Rosco's speech was when you weren't in attendance nor have you heard a recording (apologies if you have). I thought it was a great speech and admire his honesty, as did most in attendance judging by the applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) Not even in Speedway General Discussions then. As it has nothing to do with speedway, probably not no Edited August 9, 2011 by Cornishman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarvel Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I have heard tonight that Kazprazak has been banned from riding in Sweden due to have an illegal silencer obviously thought he could get away with it there. any idea what happened with this? did he have to change silencer before meeting or was it a wind up? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Oh for goodness sake, this is getting silly now. You are completely entitled to your own opinion, I have never stated otherwise. All i've said is that I doubt Ed Kennett is that fussed about it. I have not personalised this at all. Then tell me which of the "demands" would NOT help the integrity of the sport? They weren´t demands either. Why a mechanic would do this of his own accord? How many riders of the 40 or so EL full time riders would you think DO NOT know their own set ups? Simply put, if one gets away with blaming a mechanic, many riders can do the same until caught. Did Leon Madsen start the trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Custer, with the greatest respect I don't know how you can keep harping on about how foolish you think Rosco's speech was when you weren't in attendance nor have you heard a recording (apologies if you have). I thought it was a great speech and admire his honesty, as did most in attendance judging by the applause. agreed and I was in attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprog1 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Custer, with the greatest respect I don't know how you can keep harping on about how foolish you think Rosco's speech was when you weren't in attendance nor have you heard a recording (apologies if you have). I thought it was a great speech and admire his honesty, as did most in attendance judging by the applause. I am not harping on about it. It may have been an eloquent speech and may have impressed the listeners, but for reasons stated I think it unwise when the club and the rider have made formal public statements. Speedwayondisc has set out reasons for more cogently and eloquently than I can in his post and I think he is right. If you think we are both wrong thats fine with me because thats what the forum is about. If I don't agree with an opposing point of view it doesn't mean that I don't think there is merit in or nor does it mean I can't be persuaded. I don't have to agree with someone's viewpoint in order to respect it. I just don't like people jumping up and down misquoting me . i don't really want to dwell on Roscoe himself any more but can you add anything to what has already been posted about his comments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy M Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Have just read eddies statement on the bees website.im pleased hes got it sorted out,well so to speak.when i heard about it,i couldnt believe it.eddie wouldnt do anyhting like that on purpose would he?i know i dont know him personally.but ive spoken to him several times and hes seems a lovely genuine bloke.i just hope his punishment isnt to harsh.good luck eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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