Mark Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Whilst the buck will rest with Edward Kennett I think its entirely possible that he knew nothing of the tampering. Does each rider 'machine examine' their own equipment before each meeting. Unlikely to be the case isn't it. I wonder what deal his mechanic was on, maybe performance and points related. He would have had something to gain, maybe make his own reputation bigger due to better results for Ed Kennett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjamin Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Well what I fail to understand is: Complaint by other team manager after a couple of races. Complaint after/end of meeting by own team manager surely if other team manager could here something different from Kennetts bike Rosco would here as a past rider! Kennetts team Kennett rider, Steve mechanic, Swerve mechanic, Eddie's dad as ? So who is the culprit? This will be answered sooner or later when Kennett is back racing. So whoever is missing from his 1st meeting back is the culprit, or is there more mechanic's in his team that only work at his workshop that nobody know's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Not exactly, he hasn't been in front of the tribunal yet. They will deem the punishment, if there is to be one. Does anyone know how the tribunal will work and who sits on the panel etc? Can he appeal to the newly formed independent tribunal body, when he is found guilty. Definately going to get some sort of sanction, possibly 28 day ban, or banned until next season, any longer would be unfair. Other bans issued Michael Lee 5 years WTF Simon Wigg 1 year ban from world championship Gary Havelock 1 year ban As for cheating going on, anyone remember the time Rick Miller needed a 12 pt maximum to achieve a 6pt ave to allow him to return the next season. Edited August 8, 2011 by From PC to KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Does anyone know how the tribunal will work and who sits on the panel etc? This one I can answer. It goes like this. Edward Kennett enters the room and there he sees a panel of Three. The panel of Three (Matt Ford, Jon Cook & Alex Harkness) who are impartial will see over the guilty evidence. Once the guilty evidence is confirmed Matt Ford will issue a further suspended 3 Month ban & a fine of 'you must score no points against Poole in the Play-Off Final'. Coventry will also suffer as they too will be fined 'at least one rider every other heat must touch the tapes and go off 15 meters, 'Edward Kennett must take 5 rides' & 'all Coventry riders machinery will be supplied Poole to make sure all is fair & equal' all just for the Play-Off Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 If the tampering is as widespread as some say,then the BSPA should be contacting the various manufacturers and asking for a list of all people ordering a batch of new silencers and contacting those concerned and asking them the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineman Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Well it's very likely that almost everyone has thought about how to get an advantage related to the silencers, since they are all convinced that they're the devil's work. Making an example of one rider may discourage others from trying, but doesn't really seem proportionate or fair (the principles of justice). The sad state of affairs relating to silencers continues because the rule changes were badly thought through and implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 This one I can answer. It goes like this. Edward Kennett enters the room and there he sees a panel of Three. The panel of Three (Matt Ford, Jon Cook & Alex Harkness) who are impartial will see over the guilty evidence. Once the guilty evidence is confirmed Matt Ford will issue a further suspended 3 Month ban & a fine of 'you must score no points against Poole in the Play-Off Final'. Coventry will also suffer as they too will be fined 'at least one rider every other heat must touch the tapes and go off 15 meters, 'Edward Kennett must take 5 rides' & 'all Coventry riders machinery will be supplied Poole to make sure all is fair & equal' all just for the Play-Off Final YAWNNNN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Why does nobody believe him ? Surely Eddie is the innocent victim in all this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 This one I can answer. It goes like this. Edward Kennett enters the room and there he sees a panel of Three. The panel of Three (Matt Ford, Jon Cook & Alex Harkness) who are impartial will see over the guilty evidence. Once the guilty evidence is confirmed Matt Ford will issue a further suspended 3 Month ban & a fine of 'you must score no points against Poole in the Play-Off Final'. Coventry will also suffer as they too will be fined 'at least one rider every other heat must touch the tapes and go off 15 meters, 'Edward Kennett must take 5 rides' & 'all Coventry riders machinery will be supplied Poole to make sure all is fair & equal' all just for the Play-Off Final You forgot transportation to Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayStud09 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Seeing as bikes are very sensitive beasts and that tyre pressures, clutch and carberettor settings, gearings, etc are adjusted very regularly, surely the rider himself would have been aware of suddenly having more power? Edited August 8, 2011 by SpeedwayStud09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 if you look at the picture with EK leading PS, the lean angle of the bikes are pretty much the same, but EK's silencer looks shorter??? ....or is my 20-20 vision playing up a bit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Why does nobody believe him ? Surely Eddie is the innocent victim in all this . Thats the problem. That is highly speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Seeing as bikes are very sensitive beasts and that tyre pressures, clutch and carberettor settings, gearings, etc are adjusted very regularly, surely the rider himself would have been aware of suddenly having more power? Yes, no doubt. I would pat myself on the back that I had such an ace mechanic and pay him a bonus. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 If found guilty EK will suffer the consequenses , he was found to be cheating . Is it that much difference than Mr Dugard doctoring the starting gates at Eastie , which is cheating also ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Do you know what? I'm perfectly happy to accept that. It could well be that Edward was genuinely unaware that his machinery was illegal. However it's a fact that his machinery is his responsibility and no one else's, and as such he deserves whatever reasonable sanctions the authorities impose on him. But surely that's as far as it can go. I know many are calling for him to be sacked and all the rest but to my mind there has to be some grace here. His version of events should be accepted as the truth, and once he's done the time he should be allowed to get back on with it. If at some point in the future he's caught cheating again, then that's a different thing altogether, but I do tend to think that this merciless "burn him, burn him" attitude over one misdemeanor that he could feasibly have been unaware of is a bit harsh. That should win the best post on this thread by far! Absolutley spot on very eloquently put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Seeing as bikes are very sensitive beasts and that tyre pressures, clutch and carberettor settings, gearings, etc are adjusted very regularly, surely the rider himself would have been aware of suddenly having more power? Looking at race times from Saturday, I doubt he would notice much difference apart from the fact that he was possibly getting to the first corner much quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Being at the meeting he wasn't notably any faster than the other riders, but he popped out the gate for four of his five wins. Didn't make the start in heat 15, but passed Richardson bends 3/4 lap 1. Some of the Coventry fans on here have been a disgrace. After he waited all winter to wait and see rather than sign elsewhere, to then have plonkers on here calling him all sorts must make him question his loyalty. Yes he's been naive, but if he has entrusted his mechanics to deal with his machineary and they have tampered with it then he would have had no way of knowing on the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Shouldn't this mechanic get named & shamed so the World can be sure he doesn't get employed elsewhere????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Shouldn't this mechanic get named & shamed so the World can be sure he doesn't get employed elsewhere????????? It shouldn't be to hard to work out. He has Nicholls ex mechanic working for him and some other fella on occasions along with his dad. Think Craig Boyce does his engines or did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 if you look at the picture with EK leading PS, the lean angle of the bikes are pretty much the same, but EK's silencer looks shorter??? ....or is my 20-20 vision playing up a bit.... Silencers can be moved forward or back, this is another trick to increase grip. Not only that I think they are both using different types of silencer. One is a king the other a dep. Could having more than one manufacturer have a detrimental effect. With the old type everyone was using a king, although there was a jaws version available. Now there are 4 types all different. Bring back the old one I say, we didn't have any of these silly problems then...just makesure they are re packed every 5 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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