SpeedwayStud09 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The good old fashioned arse kicking pyramid at play; Club blames and distances self from rider. Rider blames and fires mechanic. What did the mechanic have to gain from this? Is he on points money? Will he be named and shamed and banned from attending any speedway track in the UK as I believe he should be. Regardless of the outcome here, in the future rules need to be in place so both club and rider are fully 100% responsible for legal equipment and face serious consequences (like a deduction of all league points and a ban). Note I am saying this for the FUTURE, whatever the rules state for the present should be applied here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 He must think we were all born yesterday. So the mechanic is being used as the fall guy is he..He didn't know my arse! If I was the mechanic and if what Kennett says is false I would be on the phone to BSPA to put the record straight and would be taking legal advice also. I expect we will be hearing his side of things before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The good old fashioned arse kicking pyramid at play; What did the mechanic have to gain from this? Is he on points money? Will he be named and shamed and banned from attending any speedway track in the UK as I believe he should be. Out of interest, what would that achieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The mechanic has lost his job. I think that's enough punishment, don't you? Especially in the current climate. I would imagine the mechanic will have signed an affadavit taking responsibility and unless anyone has evidence to the contrary I'd advise you to watch what you say very carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Fair enough. Was it really all down to the mechanic in the tool shed with a long drill bit? I guess we'll never know, but personally, I think the best course of action would be to allow the authorities to impose whatever sanctions they deem appropriate, and then when he's paid the price, let him go racing again. I doubt very much whether Mr Kennett would be foolish enough to try a similar stunt again. Agreed we will never know, however I think we all thought that is what the excuse would be, I do think he needs at the very least a months (or possibly more) worldwide ban to ensure he is not tempted nor any other riders are tempted, plus it hits him in the pocket, after all what line is his Polish team going to take? Performance enhancing is actually taken very seriously in other sports and the athlete is held responsible whether he claims his drink was spiked etc so perhaps the SCB will go down this route. So all riders can say honest Guv wasn't me , it was him with the spanner Pretty much, that seems to be the case, a rather slap dash attitude however thats also indicative of the sport we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I guess you either believe he is telling the truth and that he didn't know, or you are in the camp that believe he is lying and has merely placed the problem on the head of a mechanic. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and will continue to watch and support ed - maybe for the bees who knows. I know a lot of others are being very vocal and calling for his head, but I think that is way too premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The mechanic has lost his job. I think that's enough punishment, don't you? Especially in the current climate. I would imagine the mechanic will have signed an affadavit taking responsibility and unless anyone has evidence to the contrary I'd advise you to watch what you say very carefully. Jeez man, you are way to defensive of all thing's Bees. The responsibility is with the rider. End of. I can't believe that any mechanic would make any adjustments on a riders machinery without approval. Right or wrong I believe Kennett will remain a Bees rider & Kennett will only be dealt a fine and only the 7 day ban will come of it. It's very difficult to prove that Kennett knew but I'd find it amazing that he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The mechanic has lost his job. I think that's enough punishment, don't you? Especially in the current climate. I would imagine the mechanic will have signed an affadavit taking responsibility and unless anyone has evidence to the contrary I'd advise you to watch what you say very carefully. Who is this post to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Mechanic to take the blame - shock!! Sorry Ed you are responsible for your equipment. Agree,Kennetts bikes are his responsibility and nobody elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee the bee Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I fail to see how kennet doing it makes the entire coventry team cheats... It's simple Mod note- Enough of the personal stuff, last warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Jeez man, you are way to defensive of all thing's Bees. The responsibility is with the rider. End of. I can't believe that any mechanic would make any adjustments on a riders machinery without approval. Right or wrong I believe Kennett will remain a Bees rider & Kennett will only be dealt a fine and only the 7 day ban will come of it. It's very difficult to prove that Kennett knew but I'd find it amazing that he didn't. Look at it from a legal standpoint - if the mechanic admits it was his fault, and that Kennett knew nothing, the authorities leave themselves open to all kinds of problems if they continue to pursue Kennett. While suspicion may follow him his whole career after this, it appears he's innocent. Whether or not you choose to believe it is up to you. I certainly can't offer any proof he is, anymore than you can prove he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Who is this post to? Pretty much anyone who stating, for certain, that Kennett knew his silencer was modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz brush Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 .As a friend of Edward I have refrained from commenting on this issue up until know and until I had personally spoken to him to hear his side of this. I have this afternoon spoken to him and listened to what he said, he is absoloutely distraught at what has happened and is disgusted that his integrity has been brought into question by the silly actions of a member of his team. People are questioning on here how come Edward didn't know what his mechanic had done but for me I can see it quite clearly. Edward moved over the winter and has a team in place this year so that all he has to do is concentrate and focus on riding his bike, a situation that he felt would improve him as a rider this year (in my opinion this has happened). I hope that Coventry stick by him as he did to them over those dark winter months and look forward to seeing the Edward that we know and love racing again very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 .As a friend of Edward I have refrained from commenting on this issue up until know and until I had personally spoken to him to hear his side of this. I have this afternoon spoken to him and listened to what he said, he is absoloutely distraught at what has happened and is disgusted that his integrity has been brought into question by the silly actions of a member of his team. People are questioning on here how come Edward didn't know what his mechanic had done but for me I can see it quite clearly. Edward moved over the winter and has a team in place this year so that all he has to do is concentrate and focus on riding his bike, a situation that he felt would improve him as a rider this year (in my opinion this has happened). I hope that Coventry stick by him as he did to them over those dark winter months and look forward to seeing the Edward that we know and love racing again very soon. I am sure if the Statement on the Bees site by Kennett was not true the mechanic in question would have commented by now . There will be them that want to believe that Eddie was party to it & them that dont . Pick a side & move on . Looking at it another way the only 5 riders in British Speedway at the moment who are positivly using legal silencers are NEMO,RICO,SWIDERSKI,PAWLICKI & FISHER !!! They have certificates to prove it !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 .As a friend of Edward I have refrained from commenting on this issue up until know and until I had personally spoken to him to hear his side of this. I have this afternoon spoken to him and listened to what he said, he is absoloutely distraught at what has happened and is disgusted that his integrity has been brought into question by the silly actions of a member of his team. People are questioning on here how come Edward didn't know what his mechanic had done but for me I can see it quite clearly. Edward moved over the winter and has a team in place this year so that all he has to do is concentrate and focus on riding his bike, a situation that he felt would improve him as a rider this year (in my opinion this has happened). I hope that Coventry stick by him as he did to them over those dark winter months and look forward to seeing the Edward that we know and love racing again very soon. Do you know what? I'm perfectly happy to accept that. It could well be that Edward was genuinely unaware that his machinery was illegal. However it's a fact that his machinery is his responsibility and no one else's, and as such he deserves whatever reasonable sanctions the authorities impose on him. But surely that's as far as it can go. I know many are calling for him to be sacked and all the rest but to my mind there has to be some grace here. His version of events should be accepted as the truth, and once he's done the time he should be allowed to get back on with it. If at some point in the future he's caught cheating again, then that's a different thing altogether, but I do tend to think that this merciless "burn him, burn him" attitude over one misdemeanor that he could feasibly have been unaware of is a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Fair point bananaman and I guess those 5 could cheat now as no one would suspect them :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 What did you say Eddie is innocent.... oh sorry we hanged him yesterday... The pack of Wolves have had their meat, The mechanic has been sacked, Eddie gets suspended for 7 days, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) What did you say Eddie is innocent.... oh sorry we hanged him yesterday... The pack of Wolves have had their meat, The mechanic has been sacked, Eddie gets suspended for 7 days, end of story. Not exactly, he hasn't been in front of the tribunal yet. They will deem the punishment, if there is to be one. Does anyone know how the tribunal will work and who sits on the panel etc? Edited August 8, 2011 by Jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Seems to me that when the Bees Management went for a **-for-tat protest, they just picked the three Hammers' top scorers on the night. As to EK's statement, well - it appears it was someone who has served Eddie for a number of years going by the remarks re thanks for service and commitment etc. - many a servant has fallen on his sword to save his master. I am not saying it happened here but it certainly happens. Edited August 8, 2011 by TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godmother Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 What a load of hot air about something which has undoubtedly gone on since speedway began. That is to say..gaining the advantage and not always by legal means. Do we assume that riders know exactly what an engine tuner has tweaked about with to gain that extra bit of speed. Possibly not. Do we assume that Eddie knows every nut and bolt and personally supervises his bike? Possibly not. The difference in this case is that Eddie has been found out. He may not have known what had happened and may have used the bike innocently, but he will have to pay the price somehow. As for a life ban, that is totally over the top. He hasnt been caught drunk or under the influence of drugs whilst riding and thus endangered someone else. That,for me would be worthy of a life ban, but a bit of "fine tuning" does not warrant the punishments advocated here. I am a neutral observer on the forum and not a personal friend of Eddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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