Dietbowers Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Disgraceful scenes, and disturbing to note how long it took to bring the situation under control. No-one seemed capable of doing so. A bad advert for Speedway in general, and for my own club's apparent inability to police a volatile situation. Added to which, the Ref was slow to get involved, as he was to use the red stop lights in two races! Shame it spoiled an otherwise good meeting. Disgraceful scenes my arse speedway has had this since I`ve been going and that`s forty odd years Seen better meetings,but it is was okay,Kurtz head and shoulders above the rest of the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndBender Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Disgraceful scenes my arse speedway has had this since I`ve been going and that`s forty odd years Seen better meetings,but it is was okay,Kurtz head and shoulders above the rest of the riders. Sure it's always happened - I've seen it many times myself in my 40+ years of watching. What was worrying was how long it took to get it under control, with several officials and staff seeming to want to get in on the act. There was even a very public slanging match between a Newport official and a newspaperman in the stand. Not at all professional, and it doesn't paint the club in a very good light, especially when we're crying out for new fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Sure it's always happened - I've seen it many times myself in my 40+ years of watching. What was worrying was how long it took to get it under control, with several officials and staff seeming to want to get in on the act. There was even a very public slanging match between a Newport official and a newspaperman in the stand. Not at all professional, and it doesn't paint the club in a very good light, especially when we're crying out for new fans. Wow,shock,horror,Newport Journalist doesn`t know what`s going on at Newport speedway. Poor old Terry never going to get it right even with inside information I`ve got a simple answer,put a boxing ring in the centre green.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Wow,shock,horror,Newport Journalist doesn`t know what`s going on at Newport speedway. Poor old Terry never going to get it right even with inside information I`ve got a simple answer,put a boxing ring in the centre green.... You probably wouldn't remember, being a young tacker, but Boxing was held pre-war at Somerton Park, with Welsh Champ George James successfully defending his title there on two occasions. I'm sure if Mainman was approached he could set up a couple of Heavyweight Clashes at Queensway Meadows; doubtless there'd be a few on the forum wanting to knock Wanna's block off. If it was Shadow Boxing we could see Wanna v Pinstripe, perhaps? Great to see Todd really kicking a few goals this season; he'll be looking at doubling up next year for sure. Jay looking solid middle-order as well. Might have been a different result if Cam hadn't withdrawn from the meeting after his Ht 11 Kummagutza; good to hear he's OK, although they do tend to bounce at that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Well done Todd Feel sorry for the Fen Tigers who perhaps deserved more looking at updates. Interesting performance from Heeps, undoubtedly hugely talented but up till his crash he only beat riders he's already better than. For me question marks about how ready for PL he is remain. Edited August 7, 2011 by shirlmeister general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Heeps looked class tonight but at times a little wild ! Also needs to learn how to team ride, twice he almost wiped out his partner. Blackbird wasn't happy with his after heat 4. Not sure why the Baseby brothers went after Matt Bates after heat 14 though, I didn't see anything wrong from where i was stood. Then everyone piled in and someone from Mildenhall decided to throw a helmet at one of the Newport mechanics! Was Crazy. My understanding is that the junior racing in Australia is individual not team so Mildenahll is probably Heeps' first experience at team racing. Some of the EL riders need some coaching in team riding and they have been racing for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Interesting performance from Heeps, undoubtedly hugely talented but up till his crash he only beat riders he's already better than. What a bizarre, and somewhat inept comment that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) What a bizarre, and somewhat inept comment that is. Thanks for taking the time to point it out. Perhaps not my best choice of words ever. I do apologise if its upset anyone. All I ment was given his form thus far he has done brilliantly & clearly is talented & therefore I expected him to go to QM & realistically beat the riders he did. Edited August 7, 2011 by shirlmeister general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 My understanding is that the junior racing in Australia is individual not team so Mildenahll is probably Heeps' first experience at team racing. Some of the EL riders need some coaching in team riding and they have been racing for years In the Under-16s 125cc Team Championship at Sidewinders in January Cam represented WA along with Blake Russell; Cam scored 16 from six outings. Blake 6 + 4 from 6 and WA finished 3rd on 22 behind NSW1 and VIC1 on 23. NB scores were 3, 2, 1, 0 unlike the PL pairs. Jack Holder scored a max for NSW1 but his partner Ben Cook only managed 5 + 1 while Max Fricke scored 14 + 1 and Jack Fallon 9 + 4 for VIC1, but that's about the only meeting Downunder where Team Riding is promoted, apart from a few QLD v NSW fixtures. Looking at those results it's easy to see that VIC1 were the best TEAM riding, although Jack won the race-off and title for NSW1 after Max suffered a Kummagutza. Next year's Under 16 championships are being held at Kurri Kurri in conjunction with the Senior Solos - should be a ripper Speedweek, January 12th - 15th - Come On Down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Without doubt Cameron Heeps withdrawing from meeting cost Mildenhall the win. Of course he is not good at team riding for gods sake he is only 15 years old and its all individual racing in Oz. But who is? watch elite league racing theres hardly any and they are supposed to be the top riders. Heeps not being good enough for premier league in 2012??? You must be joking he is a fantastic prospect and might well do a Darcy Ward before he did, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netherton heathen Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Is there anyway we can twist this story to point the blame on those marauding Dudley Heathens fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Heeps not being good enough for premier league in 2012??? You must be joking he is a fantastic prospect and might well do a Darcy Ward before he did, who knows. Depends on your viewpoint, which we are all entitled too. He is without a doubt hugely talented and amongst the best Aussie prospects of his age group. I feel certain that he will improve at an exponential rate now hes riding NL & continue that for the rest of the season & over in Aus. However im unconvinced that he is quite ready for the PL yet,for a couple of reasons although he has the rest of the NL season to get to that point. Yes hes banging in the points but for me the best indicator of how ready he is for PL action is if he is beating Ex & Current PL reserves (Who are currently NL heatleaders) consistently home & away & as yet he hasn't ridden from the #1 berth for The Fen Tigers, but given his performances from reserve he should take that position. When he starts beating the top NL riders on a consistent basis, which im fairly certain that he will, then i will be convinced that he is. Edited August 8, 2011 by shirlmeister general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Depends on your viewpoint, which we are all entitled too. He is without a doubt hugely talented and amongst the best Aussie prospects of his age group. I feel certain that he will improve at an exponential rate now hes riding NL & continue that for the rest of the season & over in Aus. However im unconvinced that he is quite ready for the PL yet,for a couple of reasons although he has the rest of the NL season to get to that point. Yes hes banging in the points but for me the best indicator of how ready he is for PL action is if he is beating Ex & Current PL reserves (Who are currently NL heatleaders) consistently home & away & as yet he hasn't ridden from the #1 berth for The Fen Tigers, but given his performances from reserve he should take that position. When he starts beating the top NL riders on a consistent basis, which im fairly certain that he will, then i will be convinced that he is. Fair enough but do remember he is only 15 and has only ridden over here for a few weeks. There is still nearly 3 months left of this season and in my opinion will be ready to ride at no6 in the Witches premier league side in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Depends on your viewpoint, which we are all entitled too. He is without a doubt hugely talented and amongst the best Aussie prospects of his age group. I feel certain that he will improve at an exponential rate now hes riding NL & continue that for the rest of the season & over in Aus. However im unconvinced that he is quite ready for the PL yet,for a couple of reasons although he has the rest of the NL season to get to that point. Yes hes banging in the points but for me the best indicator of how ready he is for PL action is if he is beating Ex & Current PL reserves (Who are currently NL heatleaders) consistently home & away & as yet he hasn't ridden from the #1 berth for The Fen Tigers, but given his performances from reserve he should take that position. When he starts beating the top NL riders on a consistent basis, which im fairly certain that he will, then i will be convinced that he is. Agreed, Heeps may be a talented rider for his age, but I certainly dont agree with Aljack that he could ' do a Ward ' because I dont think that hes good enough yet. Personally, he may need another year in the National League because at the moment hes beating riders who you would expect him to beat. When he goes to no.1 or the main body of the team then we will be able to see how good he is. But at the moment Ward was a better rider than Heeps when he was 15. Edited August 8, 2011 by LFC1892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Agreed, Heeps may be a talented rider for his age, but I certainly dont agree with Aljack that he could ' do a Ward ' because I dont think that hes good enough yet. Personally, he may need another year in the National League because at the moment hes beating riders who you would expect him to beat. When he goes to no.1 or the main body of the team then we will be able to see how good he is. But at the moment Ward was a better rider than Heeps when he was 15. I don't think Heeps is as good as Ward but he's certainly not far behind. He's currently averaging 9.81 from 5 matches (including over 10 away from home) and one has to wonder whether he would be expected to beat Roynon, Morris and Branford (all riders who are riding or have ridden in the PL this season) on their home tracks. I also think you have to watch him to realise just how good he is. On Buxton's concrete and gravel track the other week he made it look very easy indeed in contrast to almost everyone else. I agree with Aljack. Based upon the fact that he has rarely if ever ridden any of these tracks before and he will improve in the winter, he'd definitely be in my PL side next season, probably doubling up with an NL one. Edited August 8, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Fair enough but do remember he is only 15 and has only ridden over here for a few weeks. There is still nearly 3 months left of this season and in my opinion will be ready to ride at no6 in the Witches premier league side in 2012. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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