ImpartialOne Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Yes I agree its easy to criticise after the event but having said that, the team Middleditch picked had no hope of success in my opinion and so it proved. Nicholls is not the rider he was and his replacement!!! well its all been said. Believe me ImpartialOne Im certainly not laughing at Britains demise in speedway, its very very sad indeed. But Rob Lyon had a plan of using young riders over a period of time to bring them on at international level, whereas Middleditch just picks the same old same old with no plans for the future. Im my humble opinion if Middleditch stays as team manager nothing will change and GB will never win anything. Alan Rossiter is the man for me with drive and enthusiasm, Ive always got time for the best team manager in British speedway. What teams would you have put out then at: Kings Lynn 1 2 3 4 5 Gorzow 1 2 3 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Aljack, Do you think Jose Mourinho could take Wales/Ireland/Scotland to a Football world cup final? We've got no riders good enough to get into the GP qualifier, we've got no riders good enough to get into the world U21 final, we dont even bother sending a team to the world U21 team event. Yet some people think it's the managers fault, unbelievable!!! We are light years behind the big 4 that rode last night, and looking into the future, we can only get worse, there's little or no talent coming through. Aljack, take a look at who has been nominated for the wildcard at the U21 final at Poole, yes, your favourite rider, a Premier league reserve with a 4pt average. Yet plonkers like you still think a change of manager could change things, get real!!!! Good post...sad to see the state of British speedway now compared to the 70s/80s, when England ruled the world with World beaters such as Collins, Ashby, Wilson, Betts, Louis, Simmons, Jessup, Morton, Lee, Davis. We haven't won it now since '89 at Bradford, with that team of Doncaster, Thorp, Tatum, Wiggy, Crossy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Good post...sad to see the state of British speedway now compared to the 70s/80s, when England ruled the world with World beaters such as Collins, Ashby, Wilson, Betts, Louis, Simmons, Jessup, Morton, Lee, Davis. We haven't won it now since '89 at Bradford, with that team of Doncaster, Thorp, Tatum, Wiggy, Crossy. and that was only because of the unfortunate injury to Gundersen and the deflated attitude of Nielsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 and that was only because of the unfortunate injury to Gundersen and the deflated attitude of Nielsen Who scored 11 points. I've said it before, every team lost a key rider and every rider (and indeed every person there) was affected by Gundersen's crash. Someone had to win it and England did. They won it fair and square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yes I agree its easy to criticise after the event but having said that, the team Middleditch picked had no hope of success in my opinion and so it proved. Nicholls is not the rider he was and his replacement!!! well its all been said. Believe me ImpartialOne Im certainly not laughing at Britains demise in speedway, its very very sad indeed. But Rob Lyon had a plan of using young riders over a period of time to bring them on at international level, whereas Middleditch just picks the same old same old with no plans for the future. Im my humble opinion if Middleditch stays as team manager nothing will change and GB will never win anything. Alan Rossiter is the man for me with drive and enthusiasm, Ive always got time for the best team manager in British speedway. With the available riders team GB have I don't think a any team manager would make a difference, we are simply not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 British speedway needs lots of money for this training of riders, suggestions? A lottery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill94d Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Notwithstanding all the valid criticism on this topic, has anyone read Malcolm Simmons article in this month's Classic Speedway? He hit the nail on the head. We don't have the motivation and apart from that he comments on Chris Harris starting technique. Middlo said in his interview during the WC that we need to get to the first bend at the same time as everyone else. That's not rocket science if you wish to compete.It's all very well tweaking setups but if the rider's technique is fundamentally flwawed then we are wasting our time. I have no time for Bridger's rants or anyone not wanting to ride for their country. Floppy Norris attitude was the right one with a Union Jack on his back. Nigel Pearson kept saying the boys are giving 100%. When I was at school 100% of not very much was still not a lot!! Hey ho. I guess we will be having this discussion all again next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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