Idiots On 3rd Bend Lower Tier Cardiff

[spin king]

I think what you have to accept is the Polish speedway fans are a different breed to our Brits, they like to have fun make lots of noise and dance around, but if you interact with them they really enjoy it and you find that you do as well.

I found this out when I went to the Leszno Grand Prix this year, with Paulco, Bluejam and Junior we were not long in our seats when we struck up a group of Polish lads, when they found out we were Brits they could not have been more friendlier. By the end of the night they had us up dancing with them (although it has to be said that unlike Bluejam who was showing all great dance moves Paulco was frankly rubbish). By the end of the night one of the lads insisted that Bluejam take his Polish baseball cap as a leaving present, and went for a beer with them.

Unfortunately we lost most but we were left with one Jacob who treat me like his long lost brother, but they were great company and like I say if you interact with them they love it.

[jellyman]

I think what you have to accept is the Polish speedway fans are a different breed to our Brits, they like to have fun make lots of noise and dance around, but if you interact with them they really enjoy it and you find that you do as well.

I found this out when I went to the Leszno Grand Prix this year, with Paulco, Bluejam and Junior we were not long in our seats when we struck up a group of Polish lads, when they found out we were Brits they could not have been more friendlier. By the end of the night they had us up dancing with them (although it has to be said that unlike Bluejam who was showing all great dance moves Paulco was frankly rubbish). By the end of the night one of the lads insisted that Bluejam take his Polish baseball cap as a leaving present, and went for a beer with them.

Unfortunately we lost most but we were left with one Jacob who treat me like his long lost brother, but they were great company and like I say if you interact with them they love it.

 

That's typical of my experiences as well. The Poles are always fantastically welcoming and great fun to be with at a meeting. I can only assume that anyone who has anything negative to say about them has never actually been to Poland and experienced their hospitality. Of course there are exceptions to every rule and I'm sure there is the odd Polish knobhead out there. But, on the whole the Poles are usually a credit to both their nation and the sport of speedway.

[Shadders]

I've not been for the past two years and haven't really missed going.

Plus you can't take your dogs into the stadium

 

Unfortunately in a crowd of 40,000+ you're bound to get a few trouble makers, especially when the booze has been flowing freely all day and the jingoistic attutude of some of the morons out there doesn't help either... Surely the answer is a police presence inside the stadium... Stewards on the whole don't want to get involved, but the sight of a few dozen Heddlu would surely put a lot of the potential trouble makers off... The main reason I suspect is cost. Stewards are the cheap option, but as with most things you gets what you pays for!

Edited July 1, 2011 by Shadders

[keef]

Agree...vast majority of the Poles are great fun, and very passionate about their sport. One even crying when Gollob was beaten. We had some fun with a few in the stadium last year.

Just needs better alcohol control, and crowd control from the stewards. Quite a few fans wont be returning next year after the trouble me suspects.

[The White Knight]

When I was at Cardiff a couple of years ago - the Poles were great fun. I never saw, or heard of, any trouble. I do hope that the troubles of Football are NOT going to be visited on Speedway.

[SCB]

Bloody Poles, it's always the Poles. Poles this Poles that blah, blah, blah.

 

Why do some people go to Cardiff

 

Pretty much all around the stadium people stand up towards the end of a race. Not just the Poles.

The Poles are just out to enjoy themselves & the meeting. The problem most times comes from the Brits, without doubt seem to have a problem with foreigners having fun. Get over yourselves FFS

My experience of the Poles is they're loud, passionate and good fun. The times I have chatted to them they have been friendly and a good laugh, even had some banter with them.

 

As for the jumping out of your seat after a good race, it's surely only the British who don't do that, "Oh boy, that was a jolly fine race by young Mr Harris there, Jolly good show lad" while polity applauding! Sorry but if I've juts seen my rider have a good race I'll probably jump up in excitement - Though, as I mentioned earlier, I do try and sit somewhere that this won't be a problem. But there is nothing to stop someone who has one of these people in front of them from moving too.

[Gearhead]

And Brits

 

Ask around, its usually Poles pi$$ing people.off, personally I've witnessd it on more than one occaision,but not the other way.around as you seem to suggest, I'm not denying.that never happens though but many of the Poles have a great banter with you, most are great fun but end of the day you are asked to sit, that's why the stewards intervene, standing up is ok but not for the last half lap or more surely?

 

Too many rowdy Brits

 

Eerr yes that's what I'm getting at.the locals can be quite "lively "

Edited July 1, 2011 by Gearhead

[Cornishman]

Oh, also we had some brummies sat behind us too, father and young teenage son, shouting for Nicki to "put Holder in the effing ambulance" throughout the final.

 

I thought it was just his son to start with but he was just as bad.

 

All makes me not want to bother again to be honest, which is a shame after 7 years of going

[SCB]

Oh, also we had some brummies sat behind us too, father and young teenage son, shouting for Nicki to "put Holder in the effing ambulance" throughout the final.

 

I thought it was just his son to start with but he was just as bad.

 

All makes me not want to bother again to be honest, which is a shame after 7 years of going

Don't be such a big girl. You're not going to Cardiff because some Brummies were a bit nasty about a rider?

[Cornishman]

Don't be such a big girl. You're not going to Cardiff because some Brummies were a bit nasty about a rider?

 

 

Not just that. With the other incident as well it wasn't a very enjoyable experience this year.

 

And I'd hardly say that is 'a bit nasty'.

 

 

If it moves to august then I probably can't make it anyway so it's irrelevant really

Edited July 1, 2011 by Cornishman

[george.m]

Cough, cough!

 

Why are the trouble makers named as Brits? As usual the rest of the British Islanders have to share the responsibility when the English misbehave!

 

And please spare me the usual "Jocks this, Jocks that diatribe"

 

In true stereotypical fashion I'm off now to have a good

Edited July 1, 2011 by george.m

[ShadowCaptain]

Should Cardiff consider 'family' zones in the stadium? There are zones without the horns. If Poles, or Brits, or any other nationality have a more 'robust' approach to speedway, with or without alcohol, fair enough, but not to the exclusion of those who might be concerned about the welfare of their family. It is not fair to suggest that the less able should have to move to a different part of the stadium because there is the threat of violence nearby, but the provision of family zones, or alcohol-free zones, would provide a safer environment.

[SCB]

Should Cardiff consider 'family' zones in the stadium? There are zones without the horns. If Poles, or Brits, or any other nationality have a more 'robust' approach to speedway, with or without alcohol, fair enough, but not to the exclusion of those who might be concerned about the welfare of their family. It is not fair to suggest that the less able should have to move to a different part of the stadium because there is the threat of violence nearby, but the provision of family zones, or alcohol-free zones, would provide a safer environment.

Probably not a bad idea.

[keef]

Should Cardiff consider 'family' zones in the stadium? There are zones without the horns. If Poles, or Brits, or any other nationality have a more 'robust' approach to speedway, with or without alcohol, fair enough, but not to the exclusion of those who might be concerned about the welfare of their family. It is not fair to suggest that the less able should have to move to a different part of the stadium because there is the threat of violence nearby, but the provision of family zones, or alcohol-free zones, would provide a safer environment.

 

 

Excellent post Shadow...will be communicating with Gerald Toms the stadium manager with regard to similar issues.

Also it plainly states on the ticket that anyone under the influence of alcohol or drugs will be removed from the stadium. Clearly not enforced by the weak stewards. They would have had to evict about 5,000 fans.

As a 6ft.3 16 stone ugly ex-steward I wasn't that bothered by the trouble but my little wifey was, as we were right in the thick of it.

Felt sorry fot the families and elderly people and pregnant woman that had to vacate their seats because of the bovver, caused by a very small minority of no more than half-a-dozen cretins from both countries.(The English fans didn't appear to be pished.)

[Halifaxtiger]

The stewards were quick to come over to me and my brother in 2007 to tell us the stadium is non-smoking. Soon as things get a bit rough they 'turn a blind eye'

 

That's been my experience on occasion too.

 

Quite happy to take the money and watch the speedway but when someting kicks off they are hiding in the toilets.

 

Up at Workington once for a PL fours, I was in early and there was this fat sod with his hi-vis jacket bullying a couple of young kids for sitting on a stanchion bar. The words 'my jobs worth' were definitely mentioned. When some nutcase from Glasgow stripped off, climbed over the safety fence and starting running on the track, the aforementioned person was most reluctant to chase him. Bloody hilarious watching him shift his bulk over the fence and on to the track and trying running after the culprit, though.

 

They aren't all like that. I know a certain person from West Row who is anything but.

[keef]

That's been my experience on occasion too.

 

Quite happy to take the money and watch the speedway but when someting kicks off they are hiding in the toilets.

 

Up at Workington once for a PL fours, I was in early and there was this fat sod with his hi-vis jacket bullying a couple of young kids for sitting on a stanchion bar. The words 'my jobs worth' were definitely mentioned. When some nutcase from Glasgow stripped off, climbed over the safety fence and starting running on the track, the aforementioned person was most reluctant to chase him. Bloody hilarious watching him shift his bulk over the fence and on to the track and trying running after the culprit, though.

 

They aren't all like that. I know a certain person from West Row who is anything but.

 

I was at that Workington Fours, 2004 I think great laugh watching the fat gits chasing 3 streakers, one of whom escaped over the stadium fence, and probably ended-up walking around the adjacent Tescos starkers:

At Swindon Town F.C. anyone shouting obscenities, using racist insults, or being too pissed, could be warned by stewards, and/or removed by police.

The crowd was down from last year's peak, probably due to crowd problems, and of course the poor-performing British riders.

I don't think I would miss going, the highlights for me were Bomber's win 2007, and TRick 2005(my first G.P). The last 2/3 have been a bit flat.

Edited July 2, 2011 by keef

[jellyman]

I think there needs to be a little perspective here. Whenever you get 40,000 people in one place it's highly likely that a very small number of them will be morons.

 

If you're the kind of person who can't accept that you're probably better off not attending.

[keef]

I think there needs to be a little perspective here. Whenever you get 40,000 people in one place it's highly likely that a very small number of them will be morons.

 

If you're the kind of person who can't accept that you're probably better off not attending.

 

so its ok jellybrain for drunken idiots to have a punch-up at a speedway meeting causing lots of innocent people to move seats. They have to accept that do they, and not go again? You obviously didnt see what happened.

[jellyman]

so its ok jellybrain

 

So as not to waste your time in the future I should point out that I don't respond to people who have to resort to personal abuse rather than rational argument.

 

Troll someone else. I'm not biting.

[Starman2006]

When I got in a 5 to 5 there was a huge void in the middle of the 3rd bend top tier, so I called my parents down and we sat in that. It meant my mum could sit happily while I could jump around without getting in anyones way. As the meeting progressed a few more lively people stood behind up so had no issuer with me standing/jumping around in front of them, they were doing the same.

 

Just find somewhere sensible to sit. Theres plenty of empty seats! You can have almost a whole section to yourself on the home straight top tier if you like!

 

As for the Poles, yes 1 or 2 get carried away but the majority of them are great fun, they're there for a good time and they do just that.

 

But i do agree with the poster at the top of the thread, you do get a minority of idiots who spoil it for others, it happens every year. Thankfully speedway is not like football, and long may that continue.