TwoMinuteWarning Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think GB's best hope tonight will be that Poland are instructed to ride for a position in the race-off, otherwise (as has been proved before) there will only be a small crowd at Gorzow on Thursday. And if Australia really want to qualify for the Final, they cannot deliberately track a weak team (without Sully)again on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 So you would be prepared to pay for all your own travel expenses, hotel costs etc. The ones making money out of the competition should pay surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 The ones making money out of the competition should pay surely? Yes. But the Russian Federation are expecting the Russian Clubs to pay for their riders to compete in the World Cup. They haven't helped the Laguta brothers with their Visa's either saying that it is down to the riders to obtain them which would entail them giving up their passports for 6-8 weeks. Now you can see why Emil has a Polish passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 There's clearly no excuse for Saifudinov to not ride. Not only is he sticking two fingers up at his own country and BSI but he is also doing it to every fan who turns up at Kings Lynn tonight expecting to see him ride. Totally unacceptable and a years ban from international speedway is the only way to deal with such riders. He has no excuse as he was in the country riding for Coventry. £30 of diesel should cover his travelling expenses. hasn't he got digs over here when riding for Coventry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 There's clearly no excuse for Saifudinov to not ride. Not only is he sticking two fingers up at his own country and BSI but he is also doing it to every fan who turns up at Kings Lynn tonight expecting to see him ride. Totally unacceptable and a years ban from international speedway is the only way to deal with such riders. He has no excuse as he was in the country riding for Coventry. £30 of diesel should cover his travelling expenses. hasn't he got digs over here when riding for Coventry? So how do you suggest the Russian federation are disciplined then? As I understand it they received monies from the FIM but have not passed them on and expect anyone but themselves to pay expenses. I'd tell my employers where to stick it in those circumstances and see no reason to berate Sayfudinov for effectively doing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) According to the official SGP/SWC site this morning it says Russia will only track FOUR riders. On the team line-up page they now have 1. Roman Povazhny (Capt) 2. Sergey Darkin 3. lya Bondarenko 4. Renat Gafurov 5. Update Yep thats the official line-up now and to quote the latest from the site; Over the weekend the Russian federation (MFR) confirmed to the governing the body, the FIM, the following team for Event 2 of the 2011 FIM Speedway World Cup, that takes place on 11 July. 1. Roman Povazhny (Capt) 2. Sergey Darkin 3. Ilya Bondarenko 4. Renat Gafurov 5. - New Team Manager: Romua Hetmanis Edited July 11, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy17 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Its quite simple on how to deal with the russians, you ban them from the world cup for 3 years, take away the money the federation would get, and not allow them to stage a gp in russia for a long long while, cos 4 riders in a world cup event is bloody shambolic show. Its quite simple on how to deal with the russians, you ban them from the world cup for 3 years, take away the money the federation would get, and not allow them to stage a gp in russia for a long long while, cos 4 riders in a world cup event is bloody shambolic show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Yep I am told only four Russians at Kings Lynn for practice - what a shame as it could and should have a great 3 way tussle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 There's clearly no excuse for Saifudinov to not ride. Not only is he sticking two fingers up at his own country and BSI but he is also doing it to every fan who turns up at Kings Lynn tonight expecting to see him ride. Totally unacceptable and a years ban from international speedway is the only way to deal with such riders. He has no excuse as he was in the country riding for Coventry. £30 of diesel should cover his travelling expenses. hasn't he got digs over here when riding for Coventry? Steve, You really are making yourself look stupid on here with your pathetic attempts at a wind-up. Last rode for Coventry on the 6th July riding next on the 18th July. Why would he be in Britain. Also why don't BSI pay the riders direct and not give any money to the Russian Federation. Time to put you on ignore I think, as your posts have gone from being a good source for banter to just pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I sympathise with Sayfutdinov to be honest, he is sticking to his principles and isn't obliged to represent his country in the SWC. Like Richardson and Sullivan he has issues with his governing body and its those authorities that the FIM should punish if they can't field a full side or are keeping money that riders should be getting as expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 So you would be prepared to pay for all your own travel expenses, hotel costs etc. Er, well I agree that either the Federation or even possibly the organisers should pay.. BUT in the absense of that, as one of the best riders in the world and the best his country has produced for decades, to represent his country in this event..? Yes, I DO think in those circumstances and remebering the sponsorship he has, he should be prepared if necessary to stump up for travel and hotel expenses... I am a big fan of Sayfudinov but there can be absolutely nothing other said about his refusal to ride that it's a total disgrace...: and one he'll take a long time to live down,.. Clearly the young man needs far better people advising him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Reading Chris Harris being interviwed in todays EDP it seems Scott Nicholls will not be going to either the race-off or indeed the final should Team GB quailify. Unless Middlo can talk him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Its quite simple on how to deal with the russians, you ban them from the world cup for 3 years, take away the money the federation would get, and not allow them to stage a gp in russia for a long long while, cos 4 riders in a world cup event is bloody shambolic show. Surely the "simple" solution is to pay the money directly to the riders rather than the federations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 What time does the gates open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alderton Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 What time does the gates open? On the ticket it says 5 oclock, but last year they were open before then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLIGHTLY ROUND THE BEND Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 What time does the gates open? 4pm from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Er, well I agree that either the Federation or even possibly the organisers should pay.. BUT in the absense of that, as one of the best riders in the world and the best his country has produced for decades, to represent his country in this event..? Yes, I DO think in those circumstances and remebering the sponsorship he has, he should be prepared if necessary to stump up for travel and hotel expenses... I am a big fan of Sayfudinov but there can be absolutely nothing other said about his refusal to ride that it's a total disgrace...: and one he'll take a long time to live down,.. Clearly the young man needs far better people advising him.. Mark Loram Tony Rickardsson Greg Hancock Jason Crump Ryan Sullivan Leigh Adams Lee Richardson Simon Stead All riders who have turned down the chance of riding in the SWC (or would have done had they not been injured). Just how is Sayfutdinov different? I'll tell you how, Emil is currently not being paid to ride in the GP's and would not be paid to ride in the SWC because the Russian authorities owe the FIM money, thus the FIM are not paying out any prize money to the Russians. Your beef should be with the Russian authorites. Why did nobody complain the Germans were missing their best rider on Saturday? Edited July 11, 2011 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Looking forward to later. Hoping the showers forecast dont ruin things. Only my 2nd trip to Lynn since Wolves were there in 96! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 While representing your country in any sport is undoubtedly a privilege, it's certainly not an obligation. I can fully understand Emil (or anyone for that matter) refusing to ride if it's going to cost them money. After all, they are professional speedway riders, and if the money's not there why should they be? Of course it's a shame for the fans, but the blame has to be placed on the correct person, and in this case it's not Emil Sayfutdinov. That said, I wouldn't neccesarily be averse to seeing him banned from riding in Britain until the end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Mark Loram Tony Rickardsson Greg Hancock Jason Crump Ryan Sullivan Leigh Adams Lee Richardson Simon Stead All riders who have turned down the chance of riding in the SWC (or would have done had they not been injured). A rather misleading list. Most of the above riders only missed riding in the SWC due to either injury or being retired from international speedway. How many of the above opted out of the World Cup when only 21 years old? Sayfutdinov should be given no option but to ride tonight, or face a ban from the next Grand Prix. He's let down the fans. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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