topdog Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 more photo's now added from last night meeting http://unofficialscorpion.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=389&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Don't see the sense in having Barker in last night then dropping him for Thursday, and I don't see that Stead, King or Allen would do better at Gorzow anyway. Can't see us troubling the other three sides much but will be good experience for the four younger team members. However that experience alone is useless, if we are going to do better next year there has to be some kind of structured approach with some overseas Test Matches, more help and advice for these guys and more investment in the Under 21 scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I hear Scott was never going to go to Poland anyhow ...i wonder if the people who gave rico stick will do he same with Scott or will they make excuses for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) I hear Scott was never going to go to Poland anyhow ...i wonder if the people who gave rico stick will do he same with Scott or will they make excuses for him Why can Nicholls go to Poland every Sunday to ride for Start Gniezno without any fuss , but it's a major problem this Thursday . Richardson has come in for a bad press over his decision to miss this year's event . He obviously has his reasons , and was always one of our best riders in previous years - so it's unfortunate he chose to sit out this year . Edited July 12, 2011 by Paulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 With Nicholls crying off, now is the time for both sides to swallow a bit of pride and get Richardson back in the team for Thursday. I notice that all the riders (and the team manager, horrid idea) had their own sponsors on their racesuits, which was the main sticking point for Richardson, and if there's to be any chance of success on Thursday, we need him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 With Nicholls crying off, now is the time for both sides to swallow a bit of pride and get Richardson back in the team for Thursday. I notice that all the riders (and the team manager, horrid idea) had their own sponsors on their racesuits, which was the main sticking point for Richardson, and if there's to be any chance of success on Thursday, we need him! Agree , to have any chance at all we need Richardson . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Mark Loram Tony Rickardsson Greg Hancock Jason Crump Ryan Sullivan Leigh Adams Lee Richardson Simon Stead All riders who have turned down the chance of riding in the SWC (or would have done had they not been injured). Just how is Sayfutdinov different? Your examples don't have any relevance as in none of the cases you refer to did it leave their teams going into a meeting a rider short. I'd have thought with your legendary mathematical brain you could've easily spotted the difference between FIVE and FOUR..! A huge well done to the Russians last night, qualifying massively against the odds. Darkin's win in heat two was one of the highlights of the night for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Why can Nicholls go to Poland every Sunday to ride for Start Gniezno without any fuss , but it's a major problem this Thursday . Richardson has come in for a bad press over his decision to miss this year's event . He obviously has his reasons , and was always one of our best riders in previous years - so it's unfortunate he chose to sit out this year . Nicholls has made it quite clear well before this event that he would more than likely miss Thursday and Saturday due to personal family reasons which we have no right to judge him on. Richardson is sorely missed and Neil should try to persuade him to race, but I doubt Lee will want to which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I hear Scott was never going to go to Poland anyhow ...i wonder if the people who gave rico stick will do he same with Scott or will they make excuses for him Why can Nicholls go to Poland every Sunday to ride for Start Gniezno without any fuss , but it's a major problem this Thursday . Richardson has come in for a bad press over his decision to miss this year's event . He obviously has his reasons , and was always one of our best riders in previous years - so it's unfortunate he chose to sit out this year . With Nicholls crying off, now is the time for both sides to swallow a bit of pride and get Richardson back in the team for Thursday. I notice that all the riders (and the team manager, horrid idea) had their own sponsors on their racesuits, which was the main sticking point for Richardson, and if there's to be any chance of success on Thursday, we need him! Interesting views of speedway fans, that you 3 can compare a rider taking a huff over sponsors vs. a rider whose wife had an operation and a few other things! Surprised orion didn't compare it to Simon Stead's hissy fit over a late offer to go into the British Final. Many riders opt out of World Cup action, some because the money is poor, some because they never get paid, some because their team won't win and refuses to miss Polish league commitments to do qualifiers (Greg Hancock), some because of sponsors, some because they weren't seeded to a British Final, some because their family have been seriously ill. I don't blame anyone. I personally give the event a miss because the races are often a match race between 2 riders. The race off will be no different. The final will be worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 SCOTT has personal reasons for not travelling to Poland this week and I am sure anyone in his situation would have done the same. Those criticising him at a difficult time should bite their tongues. The FIM word at KL last night was that the Laguta brothers are free to return to the Russian side on Thursday if selected. Their non-appearance at KL was down to visa problems, not helped apparently by very unhelpful UK officials in Moscow, and at no stage did they decline to ride. Emil Sayfutdinov did refuse to ride (in the eyes of many for understandable reasons) but he is effectively suspended for the remainder of the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 There's making a pass, then there's wiping out another rider. He did have a couple of good rides later on. The first exclusion was the referee being a pillock, the second was completely Tai's fault for riding the man, not the track. If that had been Nicki Pedersen, he'd have been pilloried on here. Tai's got fabulous talent, but he's still young and lacking maturity to deal with the bad things that happen. He was pissed off with the first heat so wanted to really stiff the opposition in the second ride and lost a possible heat win because he let his anger blind him. Given another two or three years, he could be really good, but he could also end up being another British no-hoper if he doesn't learn how to ride with intelligence rathat than just passion and skill. He's not a dirty rider by any means, but he can come across as petulant. So he had 4 good rides, 1 unlucky exclusion, and 1 where he was excluded for trying to pass someone. And you think its reason to have a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 SCOTT has personal reasons for not travelling to Poland this week and I am sure anyone in his situation would have done the same. Those criticising him at a difficult time should bite their tongues. I apologise , not following EL speedway too closely , i had no idea Sophie Blake had been in hospital . Sorry folks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 SCOTT has personal reasons for not travelling to Poland this week and I am sure anyone in his situation would have done the same. Those criticising him at a difficult time should bite their tongues. Well said Philip and also Authorised. As I said it's not for anyone on here to judge Nicholls in these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I don't blame anyone. I personally give the event a miss because the races are often a match race between 2 riders. The race off will be no different. The final will be worthwhile. Then you have probably missed some of the best speedway in the history of the sport as the race-off, more often than not has produced the best racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Then you have probably missed some of the best speedway in the history of the sport as the race-off, more often than not has produced the best racing. That is very true , but unfortunately this year looks a penalty kick for Sweden and Australia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Your examples don't have any relevance as in none of the cases you refer to did it leave their teams going into a meeting a rider short. I'd have thought with your legendary mathematical brain you could've easily spotted the difference between FIVE and FOUR..! A huge well done to the Russians last night, qualifying massively against the odds. Darkin's win in heat two was one of the highlights of the night for me.. With my great memory for remembering results I know the Americans had 4 riders in 2010. C'mon Parsloes, do check your programmes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Looking at what you've posted ManchesterPaul, I'd say the Lagutas could ride as they have fallen fowl of not having visas i.e. force majure, but Sayfutdinov appears to have 'made himself' unavailable. The FIM word at KL last night was that the Laguta brothers are free to return to the Russian side on Thursday if selected. Their non-appearance at KL was down to visa problems, not helped apparently by very unhelpful UK officials in Moscow, and at no stage did they decline to ride. Emil Sayfutdinov did refuse to ride (in the eyes of many for understandable reasons) but he is effectively suspended for the remainder of the tournament. Praise the Lord, finally days later after first asking (more than once) i get not one but two answers Both coming to the same conclusion. The reason i have been seeking clarification on whether the Laguta's could or couldn't cite force majuer is because it hasn't been made uneqivocably clear who was to blame, as in the brothers or the Russian or British embassy staff etc. Glad to see that the rule i mentioned days ago will be applied and Sayfutdinov won't ride. Although, as with the trio last night, what an absolute stinker of a shame. Last night's meeting would so have been enhanced by their appearance. Additionally, Emil is a sad exclusion from the race-off meeting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Well said Philip and also Authorised. As I said it's not for anyone on here to judge Nicholls in these circumstances. Well said all three of you!! Going back to team GB, it's sad that that's the best team we can put out. I'm sure they'll try their best, but it's gonig to be an embarrassing whitewash.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBrian Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Why didn't the Brits and the Poles not just let the Czechs win heat 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Why didn't the Brits and the Poles not just let the Czechs win heat 25? PROBABLY because they didn't fancy being involved in any number of crashes with the Dryml brothers in Gorzow. Quote of the night from Ales: "If they gave points for crashes we (he and brother Lukas) would be World Champions!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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