Trees Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I must admit I never went to this meeting as I thought the "star" field all people got so excited about was not worth my hard earned money to watch. And after reading the heat details I can see I was right but having said that Joe Jacobs for Doyle was a master stroke 3 riders in the final races just added to the excitement I guess and also guess what Hart did not score a point but I bet he still was his usual arrogant poser self doing wheelies Never mind Cameron Heeps has arrived now its only a matter of time You haven't mentioned any positives alblack, sorry I mean aljack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamfj Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I must admit I never went to this meeting as I thought the "star" field all people got so excited about was not worth my hard earned money to watch. And after reading the heat details I can see I was right but having said that Joe Jacobs for Doyle was a master stroke 3 riders in the final races just added to the excitement I guess and also guess what Hart did not score a point but I bet he still was his usual arrogant poser self doing wheelies Never mind Cameron Heeps has arrived now its only a matter of time Aren't you a little beam of sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 The stars SRTB referred to are of the Compost Corner type. We haven't had many star riders at Foxhall for years - and as a team, the current Sackers Witches knock spots of the misfits who have disgraced the Witch (IMHO only a few exceptions). The context of the Star of Anglia has simply changed to a PL version ... The only way to see an individual with a similar level of quality as the original SoA is to go to a GP - I can't think of any of the old classic individual meetings that remain with full high-quality line-ups, eg. Laurels, Brandonapolis, Blue Riband, Pride of The East ... Well then I will ask "do we want individuals at all at foxhall" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Going by the updates I can't imagine Hart's bikes running for long enough to do a wheelie! Well done to Kozza for winning the meeting after missing out to Sam by the smallest of margins last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Kozza Smith deserved to win the meeting from Sam Masters and Olli Allen. Making some great starts and looked much more smooth on the bike. Masters looked quick but couldnt find a way past Smith in rerun of heat 12. This after Masters was wiped out by a move that you could see was coming from Jordan Frampton, but was only going to end one way, in a big heap! Great comedy moment after the race when the 2 Aussies congratulated each other, touched handlebars and both fell off down back straight! Picked themselves, and bowed to crowd after a big cheer. The Witches riders were poor, so the 20 point lead for tommorows match at Scunthorpe looks in danger! Mention for Hart's No1 fan..... Jerran didn't complete a race so no wheelies etc, just 2 falls and a submission! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Aren't you a little beam of sunshine. Just being a truthful realist sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 You haven't mentioned any positives alblack, sorry I mean aljack Oh yes I have "Cameron Heeps has arrived" cant get anymore positive than that (new no6 for Witches) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggytastic Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Good research Mr Beerhut which I notice has been ignored by certain people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Good research Mr Beerhut which I notice has been ignored by certain people. Thank you Mr Tastic! You can only hear what you want to hear, or read what you want....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I hope the bikes Hart used Tonight are not the ones if is going to use on Saturday. Don't know what has happened to doolan lately but It's not good to watch. He looks really slow and looks like a novice in most of his opening rides lately.it wouldn't be so bad if if didn't write a column in the paper telling up the other riders need to to get stuck into the track conditions and rarely doing it himself. I'm sure He was well beaten by a nl rider in his first race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Is Heeps even old enough to ride PL? If he is I can't imagine him being thrown onto the deep end like that without some meetings for Mouldyhole first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennywren Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Well then I will ask "do we want individuals at all at foxhall" I can think of one individual that wouldn't be missed much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovey Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I must admit I never went to this meeting as I thought the "star" field all people got so excited about was not worth my hard earned money to watch. And after reading the heat details I can see I was right but having said that Joe Jacobs for Doyle was a master stroke 3 riders in the final races just added to the excitement I guess and also guess what Hart did not score a point but I bet he still was his usual arrogant poser self doing wheelies Never mind Cameron Heeps has arrived now its only a matter of time Doyle's withdrawal was because of injury and they couldn't get a replacement at short notice. Joe Jacobs was originally the track reserve, who would have taken rides if anyone pulled out. As it was, after two horrendous crashes, both Frampton (machinery) and Brundle (Doctor's advice) withdrew, which left no-one to fill their final two rides each. Frampton's had an engine failiure first time out, then he set the fastest time of the season (58.4) in his next, before that third ride crash which left him without a rideable bike. Hart had a crap night - but he wasn't pulling wheelies. Biggest disappointment for him was when he finally got racing (fourth ride, I think), he then went into the first bend too quickly on the outside and fell in the deep stuff. Poole did something similar on the fourth bend in his second ride - so none of them are perfect. I did wonder if the Witches are looking at Burmeister, eg. if he's on his way out at Wolves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needles Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I can think of one individual that wouldn't be missed..... Edited for accuracy ASV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Agreed Needles!! Who needs enemies eh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Doyle's withdrawal was because of injury and they couldn't get a replacement at short notice. Joe Jacobs was originally the track reserve, who would have taken rides if anyone pulled out. As it was, after two horrendous crashes, both Frampton (machinery) and Brundle (Doctor's advice) withdrew, which left no-one to fill their final two rides each. Frampton's had an engine failiure first time out, then he set the fastest time of the season (58.4) in his next, before that third ride crash which left him without a rideable bike. Hart had a crap night - but he wasn't pulling wheelies. Biggest disappointment for him was when he finally got racing (fourth ride, I think), he then went into the first bend too quickly on the outside and fell in the deep stuff. Poole did something similar on the fourth bend in his second ride - so none of them are perfect. I did wonder if the Witches are looking at Burmeister, eg. if he's on his way out at Wolves? Thank you "Lovey" for your description of what happened at foxhall yesterday, as you know I never went so only had the updates to go on what happened. Its a worrying time regarding Doolans well below power performances this season and he nearly always look quite slow. The team have seldom clicked as a unit this season and quite honestly dont look championship material at all (something I said be wary of at the start of the season). Many were over the moon with the team and said Witches would walk the league As for Hart having a "crap night" well honestly how many is that now? but I expect many will come to his defence including his family members. Poor deluded people time to wise up, he is as good as he is going to get and is simply not good enough for the Witches team Burmeister was being chased by Louis before the start of the season and could be an answer to Witches no4 position vacated by the injured Risager but not sure he is good enough A shot in the arm is needed I feel and not to let things drift along, a change at no6 is vital also as that position is a real weak link this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 You do sometimes have to wonder when yousee how many changes THe wasps have made. Also we are in a of a false position in the league at the moment due to we have raced more matches than a lot oe teams. We need to start picking up some points away. MOst other teams are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovey Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 You do sometimes have to wonder when yousee how many changes THe wasps have made. Also we are in a of a false position in the league at the moment due to we have raced more matches than a lot oe teams. We need to start picking up some points away. MOst other teams are. I think the Witches were fortunate that the first Northern tour never happened, ie. becasue of Risager's injury. Hoepfully they can regroup and find some away results. Tonight's cup match at Scunthorpe is the first away match for a month, and they've got 7 more "first phase" away fixtures to ride, before the starting the second phase. I don't think many Ipswich fans thought the Sackers Witches could walk the PL, but it's definitely a team that should improve it's averages, so makes it one of the more likely to succeed. The PL title is obviously the target of all ambitious teams ... but only one team can win so, in that respect, there are always more disappointed teams than happy ones. Even so, I'm sure most (although definitely not one) are happy with what the team has done so far in terms of providing some very watchable speedway - that's the biggest plus by far. It's interesting that a thread was launched about Somerset needing an out-and-out Number 1. You could argue the same applies to Ipswich. Doolan is a fine leader, but has not been dominant. Risager started slowly, and got injured just when it looked like he could start banging in some good scores; while Bjerre and Poole are clearly full of potential but still young and maybe not as rounded in their experience as some people expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ever since that first bank holiday meeting doolan has looked slow.maybe if just needs to in back to his original set up. If seems very reluctant to attack the track in his first rides and even last night against some weaker opposition they were pulling away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljack Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 You do sometimes have to wonder when yousee how many changes THe wasps have made. Also we are in a of a false position in the league at the moment due to we have raced more matches than a lot oe teams. We need to start picking up some points away. MOst other teams are. What you say 'Baldyman' is so true, I think the Witches are in a false position with just one away win to their credit. Many more home meetings than away and a catastrophic home drubbing by Somerset that will be a big loss in the final countdown of the season. Yes on the whole this season has been by far more exciting than the past 12 years in the so called "elite league" with weak team after pathetic weak team put out by the Louis. Its a great shame though as is the Louis want, that things have been allowed to drift along with nothing being done to improve the team. Risager out injured just as he got some form back and only covering him with R/R is just not good enough when most of the covering riders are struggling themselves. Doolan and Schramm have on the whole been very disappointing and the weakness at reserve is there for all to see and a change is paramount at no6 if any success this season is be found before its to late. Bjerre and Poole have just been fantastic with their fantastic efforts and no blame can be laid at their door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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