bolly Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Frampton and Neath stand a good chance of going through to final round but maybe not quite good enough to beat Somerset or Sheffield for top honours !!! Would have been quite fun to see Steve Boxall named and watch the reaction of Somerset fans if he did well, but maybe thats just my twisted sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 A couple of years back the powers that be decided to use the results of heat fifteens in the Premier Trophy meetings to decide qualification . Again that was met with critisism , but it was fairer than what we have now . i think that was the year Doolan & Topinka missed out for KL, even though they were 2 of the highest average riders in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 How do Doolan and Poole get in ahead of Franc and Smith/Complin? Maybe us fans would not be so pissed off if the promoters told us the qualifying criteria, because I can't work it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) How do Doolan and Poole get in ahead of Franc and Smith/Complin? Maybe us fans would not be so pissed off if the promoters told us the qualifying criteria, because I can't work it out! Because Ipswich's combined GSA (14.66)is higher than Franc and Smith/Complin (13.70/13.97). Newports combined GSA of Doyle and Lanham (15.12) is higher than Ipswich and Berwick and we still can't get in!!! > Edited June 15, 2011 by LFC1892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWS Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Because Ipswich's combined GSA (14.66)is higher than Franc and Smith/Complin (13.70/13.97). Newports combined GSA of Doyle and Lanham (15.12) is higher than Ipswich and Berwick and we still can't get in!!! > Well if that's true, it's even more ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Moan,moan,moan on this thread. The Comets missed out on the Pairs and Fours last year but had riders capable of winning too. Looking forward to this meeting after taking in Johno's Farewell meeting at Swindon on Thurs and off to Cardiff GP on the Saturday. Make my weekend to see the Comets on the rostrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 How do Doolan and Poole get in ahead of Franc and Smith/Complin? Maybe us fans would not be so pissed off if the promoters told us the qualifying criteria, because I can't work it out! Is it not based on the top two riders average? This is Doolan and Risager = 15.41, not Doolan and Poole = 14.66. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) I make it Josef Franc 7.67 Kozza Smith 7.45 TOTAL 15.12 Kevin Doolan 7.54 Taylor Poole 7.22 TOTAL 14.76 They're surely not using rolling average? The whole point of speedway is to sign riders who will increase their average, so to use rolling averages for a pairs meeting seems to be completely against that. Edited June 15, 2011 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Is it not based on the top two riders average? This is Doolan and Risager = 15.41, not Doolan and Poole = 14.66. I make it Josef Franc 7.67 Kozza Smith 7.45 TOTAL 15.12 Kevin Doolan 7.54 Taylor Poole 7.22 TOTAL 14.76 They're surely not using rolling average? The whole point of speedway is to sign riders who will increase their average, so to use rolling averages for a pairs meeting seems to be completely against that. SCB see LW's post!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Plymouth should never of been in to start with imo. And clearly ipswich have done enough bleeting so there in. The should of stuck by the principles and told the BSPA to stick it where the sun don't shine. farce. Sheffield to win. Edited June 15, 2011 by penchev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Still unbelievable that Newport aren't in it. Doyle and Gjedde would have an excellent chance of winning. Rather watch them have a blast than some of the rubbish in the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Plymouth should never of been in to start with imo. And clearly ipswich have done enough bleeting so there in. The should of stuck by the principles and told the BSPA to stick it where the sun don't shine. farce. Sheffield to win. Actually I don't think we did any bleating, seems like it's the Newport lot that are the most pee'ed off tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) I make it Josef Franc 7.67 Kozza Smith 7.45 TOTAL 15.12 Kevin Doolan 7.54 Taylor Poole 7.22 TOTAL 14.76 They're surely not using rolling average? The whole point of speedway is to sign riders who will increase their average, so to use rolling averages for a pairs meeting seems to be completely against that. From the averages I got on my laptop: With BP Lanham = 8.00 Doyle = 7.56 = 15.56 Without BP Lanham = 7.34 Doye = 7.33 = 14. 67 Edited June 15, 2011 by LFC1892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) All I can find is, "Teams are able to pick any 2 or their top 3 CMAs as at June 1, 2011." - which ok does suggest that it's rolling averages they have used. If Robson and Sneddon are Newcastle pair though, someone else should replacement. Newport could probably put 2 pairs in with higher averages! Doyle - 7.95 Lanham - 7.34 TOTAL - 15.29 Ipswichs top 3 are Doolan, Risager and Bjerre. So how is Poole (5th in the average) allowed to ride? Edited June 15, 2011 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) If Robson and Sneddon are Newcastle pair though, someone else should replacement. Newport could probably put 2 pairs in with higher averages! I partially agree with that one. Replace the weakest pair - makes sense. However would it be fair to any fans from Newcastle who have arranged day off work or booked hotels so they can attend this meeting, only to discover their riders are no longer a part of it. Edit; rephrased. Edited June 15, 2011 by DiamondsRock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 All I can find is, "Teams are able to pick any 2 or their top 3 CMAs as at June 1, 2011." - which ok does suggest that it's rolling averages they have used. If Robson and Sneddon are Newcastle pair though, someone else should replacement. Newport could probably put 2 pairs in with higher averages! Doyle - 7.95 Lanham - 7.34 TOTAL - 15.29 Ipswichs top 3 are Doolan, Risager and Bjerre. So how is Poole (5th in the average) allowed to ride? I'm assuming that as 2 of the top 5 riders are long term injuries, and probably Lasse is washing his hair next Friday night and can't change his plans , that leaves next in line Taylor Poole to step up to the tapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) I can't believe the whingeing on here - I've been looking forward to this, the GP and the Welsh Open for months - a perfect Speedway weekend - I'm even bringing some good ol' Owsley's Aussie Sunshine with me! Edited June 15, 2011 by BigFatDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I can't believe the whingeing on here - I've been looking forward to this, the GP and the Welsh Open for months - a perfect Speedway weekend - I'm even bringing some good ol' Owsley's Aussie Sunshine with me! Give a good loud Aussie shout for Dooey and Pooey then please BFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Give a good loud Aussie shout for Dooey and Pooey then please BFD No Wuckin' Furries! Great to see Taylor doing well; he's come a long way - in more ways than one! I'll be cheering for KD at Queensway Meadows as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometsfan2k4 Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Still unbelievable that Newport aren't in it. Doyle and Gjedde would have an excellent chance of winning. Rather watch them have a blast than some of the rubbish in the line up. I know, just so many rubbish riders in the line up...isn't it ridiculous? Don't be so pathetic!! In terms of qualification, I am assuming, and just assuming as we havent actually been told, dont they just take the top 3 riders averages in each team totaled (as of rolling averages on June 1st) and then take the top 10?? This would be the totals as of then, of the top 3 riders according to the BSPA official averages: Newcastle 24.93 Redcar 24.47 Sheffield 24.04 Workington 23.45 Glasgow 23.38 Plymouth 23.36 Somerset 23.1 Edinburgh 22.8 Leicester 22.72 Rye House 22.71 Newport 22.17 Ipswitch 22.16 Berwick 20.6 Scunthorpe 20 Therefore missing out would be Newport, Ipswitch, Berwick and Scunthorpe. Then obviously with Plymouth dropping out, I would assume that Newport then would be given the place being 0.01 above Ipswitch, but appears not to be the case. But I think these figures pretty much lay out the selection of the teams, which seems very fair to me, and I dont see any arguement with it?? Apart from a few anomalies along the way with certain riders who arent in the top 3 taking riders. (Summers for Redcar??) Edited June 16, 2011 by cometsfan2k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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