The Buildbase British Final.

[Chewbacca]

Was hoping Robbo would shine in this meeting after watching his first 4 imperious heat wins last night but he must have written off his #1 bike in heat 15 and his #2 bike didn't look anywhere near as quick.

[Dornier]

A Ben Barker win tonight would`nt suprise me one bit , Cant see Bomber doing it this time although last year he overcame all the odds to win but he had

 

a bit of help from Ben in the last race. At present heat 20 seems to be the crunch race. Will be happy for any BEES assett to win, anybody but WOFFY

Edited June 6, 2011 by dornier

[phillipsr]

Scott Nicholls to win although i really want Tai to. I would be gutted if Barker got the wildcard to Cardiff cant stand him

[manchesterpaul]

Thanks for the thanks all regarding racecard, it's no sweat, you're welcome.

[willstaxi]

Well for all the knockers and gloom & doom merchants about British Speedway tonights British final was one of the finest that I can remember, I think that is was on par those of the mid 70,s when world final places were at stake ( and yes I was there watching the likes of PC, Simmo, Tiger, Crash & Willie fight it out)

 

The comitment of all the riders was first class, its really nice to see a major championship fought out on a proper speedway track and not on one those dreadful eastern European motorways

 

Such hard luck on Edward & Tai a big well done to Scott and to Bomber for his sportsmanship.

 

There might be a lot wrong with British speedway but there is a hell of lot right with it, roll on the bigest and best meeting in the world CARDIFF

[manchesterpaul]

Agree totally it was a fantastic night and i only got to watch on the telly.

[bolly]

Last nights meeting;

 

Spectacular YES

Good Racing YES

Entertaining YES

Good Advert for British Speedway YES

 

Shows the quality of British Speedway NO,

 

Not when two NDL reserves are not far off the pace of our top riders. I cannot see Ashley Morris or Tom Perry however much they tried, at their stages of development through the sport managing to stay within 20 or 30 metres of the majority of todays Grand Prix riders and maybe shows how much improvement is required by Chris Harris to become a contender in this years GP series.

 

Don't kid yourself into thinking that British Speedway Riders can compete with any sort of strength in depth against the Poles or the Danes or even the Aussies if full strength teams are put out.

 

I don't know the answers but it wouldn't hurt if more British clubs used more British riders. Rye House and Sheffield appear to stand out from the crowd in having over the past few years a team with a majority of British Riders and an involvement in bringing British riders through the ranks. Last nights meeting showing that two of the finalists spent at least two of their formative years with Rye House, now we need the Wolves, Coventry, Peterborough etc. etc to pay more than lip service to training up and developing new British talent.

 

Ok, rant over. But I must admit I did enjoy last night meeting.

 

Reading the post I am sure that the pedants will shoot down most of my arguments but I think that the gist of it will be understood by most supporters.

Edited June 7, 2011 by bolly

[keef]

Well for all the knockers and gloom & doom merchants about British Speedway tonights British final was one of the finest that I can remember, I think that is was on par those of the mid 70,s when world final places were at stake ( and yes I was there watching the likes of PC, Simmo, Tiger, Crash & Willie fight it out)

 

The comitment of all the riders was first class, its really nice to see a major championship fought out on a proper speedway track and not on one those dreadful eastern European motorways

 

Such hard luck on Edward & Tai a big well done to Scott and to Bomber for his sportsmanship.

 

There might be a lot wrong with British speedway but there is a hell of lot right with it, roll on the bigest and best meeting in the world CARDIFF

 

Excellent post...my memories go back to the days of Swindon's Barry Briggs, and his 6 title wins in the 60s. Was untouchable at times.

[Fromafar]

Last nights meeting;

 

Spectacular YES

Good Racing YES

Entertaining YES

Good Advert for British Speedway YES

 

Shows the quality of British Speedway NO,

 

Not when two NDL reserves are not far off the pace of our top riders. I cannot see Ashley Morris or Tom Perry however much they tried, at their stages of development through the sport managing to stay within 20 or 30 metres of the majority of todays Grand Prix riders and maybe shows how much improvement is required by Chris Harris to become a contender in this years GP series.

 

Don't kid yourself into thinking that British Speedway Riders can compete with any sort of strength in depth against the Poles or the Danes or even the Aussies if full strength teams are put out.

 

I don't know the answers but it wouldn't hurt if more British clubs used more British riders. Rye House and Sheffield appear to stand out from the crowd in having over the past few years a team with a majority of British Riders and an involvement in bringing British riders through the ranks. Last nights meeting showing that two of the finalists spent at least two of their formative years with Rye House, now we need the Wolves, Coventry, Peterborough etc. etc to pay more than lip service to training up and developing new British talent.

 

Ok, rant over. But I must admit I did enjoy last night meeting.

 

Reading the post I am sure that the pedants will shoot down most of my arguments but I think that the gist of it will be understood by most supporters.

Totally agree with your comments

[hemphizzx]

Last nights meeting;

 

Spectacular YES

Good Racing YES

Entertaining YES

Good Advert for British Speedway YES

 

Shows the quality of British Speedway NO,

 

Not when two NDL reserves are not far off the pace of our top riders. I cannot see Ashley Morris or Tom Perry however much they tried, at their stages of development through the sport managing to stay within 20 or 30 metres of the majority of todays Grand Prix riders and maybe shows how much improvement is required by Chris Harris to become a contender in this years GP series.

 

Don't kid yourself into thinking that British Speedway Riders can compete with any sort of strength in depth against the Poles or the Danes or even the Aussies if full strength teams are put out.

 

I don't know the answers but it wouldn't hurt if more British clubs used more British riders. Rye House and Sheffield appear to stand out from the crowd in having over the past few years a team with a majority of British Riders and an involvement in bringing British riders through the ranks. Last nights meeting showing that two of the finalists spent at least two of their formative years with Rye House, now we need the Wolves, Coventry, Peterborough etc. etc to pay more than lip service to training up and developing new British talent.

 

Ok, rant over. But I must admit I did enjoy last night meeting.

 

Reading the post I am sure that the pedants will shoot down most of my arguments but I think that the gist of it will be understood by most supporters.

 

 

TOTALLY AGREE think if anything it showed that the QUALITY of british speedway is very low

 

Bomber walking to a final when he barely gets above 5 points in a GP on a regular basis

 

Nicholls winning it and Woffinden getting a max when they could clearly not cut it in the GPs

 

An enjoyable night but not proof that british speedway is dining at the top table of the worlds best nations

[willstaxi]

Can anyone help me I watched last nights Britsh Final on PC and set my Sky box to record it but the box failed to record any of the showings yesterday or today if anybody has a copy that I can have could they PM me of course I will pay for P&P.Many thanks

[Humphrey Appleby]

Spectacular YES

Good Racing YES

Entertaining YES

Good Advert for British Speedway YES

Shows the quality of British Speedway NO

 

It was a reasonably entertaining meeting, although it's a bit concerning if some are describing it as spectacular. Equally though, the quality of the line-up wasn't a particular issue from my perspective as a casual viewer, although charging 20 quid seemed a bit excessive for what wasn't much more than a glorified open meeting.

 

How far has this competition fallen though? There can't have been many more than 1,000 people there, and that was on pretty pleasant early-summer evening...

 

BTW - perhaps I'm going blind, but I had no idea the meeting was sponsored by Buildbase. Not mentioned in the programme, and no banners around the track...

Edited June 7, 2011 by Humphrey Appleby

[771neil]

NDL reserves err think you ll find both in top 20 averages in ndl going on ss last week, also most elite league races are 56-57 seconds most ndl at monmore are 58-59 so not that far behind really but hey lets hope the lads don t read you post as both really enjoyed there night and are feeling postive about the future.

ps great meeting in my opinion

[ImpartialOne]

Last nights meeting;

 

Spectacular YES

Good Racing YES

Entertaining YES

Good Advert for British Speedway YES

 

Shows the quality of British Speedway NO,

 

Not when two NDL reserves are not far off the pace of our top riders. I cannot see Ashley Morris or Tom Perry however much they tried, at their stages of development through the sport managing to stay within 20 or 30 metres of the majority of todays Grand Prix riders and maybe shows how much improvement is required by Chris Harris to become a contender in this years GP series.

 

Don't kid yourself into thinking that British Speedway Riders can compete with any sort of strength in depth against the Poles or the Danes or even the Aussies if full strength teams are put out.

 

I don't know the answers but it wouldn't hurt if more British clubs used more British riders. Rye House and Sheffield appear to stand out from the crowd in having over the past few years a team with a majority of British Riders and an involvement in bringing British riders through the ranks. Last nights meeting showing that two of the finalists spent at least two of their formative years with Rye House, now we need the Wolves, Coventry, Peterborough etc. etc to pay more than lip service to training up and developing new British talent.

 

Ok, rant over. But I must admit I did enjoy last night meeting.

 

Reading the post I am sure that the pedants will shoot down most of my arguments but I think that the gist of it will be understood by most supporters.

How on earth did Chris Harris finish 6th in the world then?

 

To compare two NL riders finishing at the back behind the likes of Harris at Wolverhampton to Chris Harris finishing at the back of a GP race at somewhere like Leszno tells us nothing. Harris has beaten them all at some stage. Put those two riders in a GP at Leszno and you would see a huge gap between them and Harris.

[bolly]

NDL reserves err think you ll find both in top 20 averages in ndl going on ss last week, also most elite league races are 56-57 seconds most ndl at monmore are 58-59 so not that far behind really but hey lets hope the lads don t read you post as both really enjoyed there night and are feeling postive about the future.

ps great meeting in my opinion

 

Ok, I knew there would be the members picking holes in my syntax, grammer or whatever.

What I meant was thet the 'meeting reserves' were from the NDL !!!

[orion]

 

 

Don't kid yourself into thinking that British Speedway Riders can compete with any sort of strength in depth against the Poles or the Danes or even the Aussies if full strength teams are put out.

 

 

 

 

Why not ? we just be a full strength aussie team at Poole last week without Lee Richardson as well as beating them last year in the world cup at Kings Lynn ...we may not win a world cup but to say we can't complee is a load of rubbish ...by the way where you get this strenght in depth about the danes ? a pl second string came 4th in the danish final last week .

[bolly]

Why not ? we just be a full strength aussie team at Poole last week without Lee Richardson as well as beating them last year in the world cup at Kings Lynn ...we may not win a world cup but to say we can't complee is a load of rubbish ...by the way where you get this strenght in depth about the danes ? a pl second string came 4th in the danish final last week .

 

I would have included Jason Crump in a full strength Aussie team, but each to their own opinion.

 

Off the top of my head a Danish Team of

 

K Bjerre

Nicki Pedersen

N K I

Bjarne Pedersen

Hans Andersen/Hougaard/Klindt

 

would give

 

Harris

Nicholls

Woffinden

Kennett

Barker/Stead/King

 

A good beating if all fit and on a neutral track.

[ImpartialOne]

I would have included Jason Crump in a full strength Aussie team, but each to their own opinion.

 

Off the top of my head a Danish Team of

 

K Bjerre

Nicki Pedersen

N K I

Bjarne Pedersen

Hans Andersen/Hougaard/Klindt

 

would give

 

Harris

Nicholls

Woffinden

Kennett

Barker/Stead/King

 

A good beating if all fit and on a neutral track.

I disagree with that. They are pretty evenly matched and are all capable of beating each other.

[bolly]

I disagree with that. They are pretty evenly matched and are all capable of beating each other.

 

Ok, we shall wait till the 31st of July and if both teams make it to the final of the world cup we shall see who beats who.

If Britain beat Denmark I will be shouting just as loud as any other Brit Supporter and I will also admit that you were correct.

[ImpartialOne]

Ok, we shall wait till the 31st of July and if both teams make it to the final of the world cup we shall see who beats who.

If Britain beat Denmark I will be shouting just as loud as any other Brit Supporter and I will also admit that you were correct.

I am correct. Every one of those riders has beaten all the others at some point and more than likely already this year. There is no void between them.