iris123 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I imagine once the new stadium at Belle Vue is finished it will get a GP.But who knows whether the track will be a good one for racing or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 My suggestion of Wolverhampton was based solely on the track, which would, in my opinion at least, give some variety in track shape. I hadn't given any thought to anything so mundane as practicalities! As blazeaway says there are relatively few permanent tracks on the UK with the infra structure necessary to hold a GP, but there are a few and a second GP in this country could on be a good thing imo The only problem with having a second GP here, more so if held at somewhere like Wembley or Olympic Stadium, is that I think the numbers for Cardiff would drop by a good 10,000. At the moment Cardiff is the big one everyone looks forward to and I think that would take the edge off it, particularly as making a weekend of it is so expensive. If it was held at Coventry or Peterborough, etc. the impact on Cardiff would be a lot less but would still affect it by maybe 3,000 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) Sunday evening and finally got to watch the GP. I feared the worst after the initial races, however, took my own advice and stuck it out in the knowledge that 'usually' a speedway meeting improves as it goes on. There were in the end some good points. There were a couple of outstanding races indeed (yes i know there needs to be many more). Big treat was the use of Jan Staechmann who gave some excellent nuggets of information and insight. Very welcome addition indeed, alas, i'm presuming he is not a permanent fixture? The Sky team and commentators finally seem to be enjoying speedy and correct information regarding the standings and significance of heats to each of the riders. Even Sam was able to give the right details for the semi-final draw order when the anchor realised that what he was reading out was wrong. So at last after a few years it's not only me enjoying the benefit of knowing what is at stake etc. Interesting to hear the team mention something i have been prattling away about for years. Namely, the overpricing the meeting out of the reach (or desire to pay) of the level of the local economy. They clearly said the tickets last year were very expensive and were altered this year. The crowd certainly looked far better than i had dreaded it would be. Bad points the desperately disappointing track that over the length of the meeting produced little passing. I do despair as once again the sport has thrown away the annual chance in each of the staging countries to gain new fans. If speedway fans themselves are threatening to turn off after half a dozen heats, and they have a lifetime's knowledge of the sport knowing that in all likelihood racing will improve, how many outsiders would have stayed that far into the GP? One of the big benefits of the SGP series is each country in effect gets their own 'World Final' (ok some get 3 lol) and all the associated extra publicity that the sport receives. As a result you will get outsiders to the sport tuning in to see what all the fuss is about. Unfortunately, way before we got some tremendous racing they would have turned off and never intending to tune into a SGP again. Even if, as we did last season, we get some stunning racing and excitement in the GP's ahead, there won't for example be any new Czech fans aware of it as they won't be watching. More significantly, there will not be any new fans turning up at speedway tracks in the Czech Republic having been hooked by a great spectacle and having witnessed exciting racing. Instead if an aquaintance says to them they are thinking of going to a speedway meeting, they will strongly advise them not to waste their money as it's absolutely dire and boring. Edited May 29, 2011 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Absolutely spot on. Stekkers commentary was excellent and as you say, Pearson toned down his as well. As someone else mentioned, Stekkers was giving a technical insight into the sport which has been so badly missing. It sounded 'intelligent' commentary for once! Yes the technical insight really brought home what has been missing from the majority of commentaries, GP and EL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Well after reading a few pages it seems that alot of Peeps like Jan,please bear in mind when slaging of our British commentators that others do make mistakes. During one commentary from Jan he said Greg Holder and Chris Hancock, god help Tatum or Pearson if they had said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) I can't see why anyone would dislike him. His fall cost me £360. I'm over it now though! Edited May 29, 2011 by hatcham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I imagine once the new stadium at Belle Vue is finished it will get a GP.But who knows whether the track will be a good one for racing or not Cardiff will stay, the new track at B Vue has been promised the SWC by O Olsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Ah, but the person who posted the attack on Chris Holder has a major problem with anything or anybody remotely Australian, Blazeaway; in fact there's quite a lot of it about - I put it down to personal inadequacies and envy. Well Done Greg - Oldies Rule, OK? Another case of attacking the poster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Cardiff will stay, the new track at B Vue has been promised the SWC by O Olsen I wasn't suggesting Belle Vue would get a GP in place of Cardiff.The talk was about an additional GP in Britain My thoughts were the SWC every few years wouldn't be enough for Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horneymikh Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 During one commentary from Jan he said Greg Holder and Chris Hancock, god help Tatum or Pearson if they had said that. I could be wrong but I thought that was Steve Brandon that said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Well after reading a few pages it seems that alot of Peeps like Jan,please bear in mind when slaging of our British commentators that others do make mistakes. During one commentary from Jan he said Greg Holder and Chris Hancock, god help Tatum or Pearson if they had said that. That was Steve Brandon who said that to Greg. I wasn't sure if it was deliberate or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I could be wrong but I thought that was Steve Brandon that said that? You're lucky you could hear Brando's interviews - our feed went strangely quiet whenever they crossed to the Pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) Yes the technical insight really brought home what has been missing from the majority of commentaries, GP and EL! lIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID IT WAS A PLEASURE FOR ONCE TO SIT AND LISTEN to some infomation about people.costs of ,equipment after lindback crashed,and general info about track records etc.Jan seemed really clued up with what was going on,and again like others have said it seems to have brushed off on pearson as well giving some info about Holtas clutch lever etc.Now we have the commentry sussed at long last all we have to do now is dig up the track at the marketa staduim so next year everything will fall in place !! Edited May 29, 2011 by speedy den boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) As so many others have said, the racing at Prague is consistantly poor, perhaps it's time to take that venue off the calendar? Personally, I'd like to see another GP over here, perhaps at Wolverhampton, which would certainly pose a different challenge yo the riders! Pretty sure that Wolves doesn't comply with regulations for FIM events (too narrow exiting the corners I believe). Brandon or EOES for me! Edited May 29, 2011 by TrueBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 lIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID IT WAS A PLEASURE FOR ONCE TO SIT AND LISTEN to some infomation about people.costs of ,equipment after lindback crashed,and general info about track records etc.Jan seemed really clued up with what was going on,and again like others have said it seems to have brushed off on pearson as well giving some info about Holtas clutch lever etc.Now we have the commentry sussed at long last all we have to do now is dig up the track at the marketa staduim so next year everything will fall in place !! THAT may be about to happen ... and about time too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 THAT may be about to happen ... and about time too! Can i suggest they also do an Ipswich and take a metre off the inside line all the way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Can i suggest they also do an Ipswich and take a metre off the inside line all the way around I THINK that is part of the plan ... for more see Speedway Star this week (plug, plug!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 THAT may be about to happen ... and about time too! I'll believe it when I see it, we were told they were going to do that about 3 years ago, no change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I'll believe it when I see it, we were told they were going to do that about 3 years ago, no change. THEY have no choice as a result of new FIM regulations which come into force next year ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 lIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID IT WAS A PLEASURE FOR ONCE TO SIT AND LISTEN to some infomation about people.costs of ,equipment after lindback crashed,and general info about track records etc.Jan seemed really clued up with what was going on,and again like others have said it seems to have brushed off on pearson as well giving some info about Holtas clutch lever etc.Now we have the commentry sussed at long last all we have to do now is dig up the track at the marketa staduim so next year everything will fall in place !! would that be the special clutch set up he had just pointed it down a bit. get rid of pearson and tatum i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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