bigcatdiary Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Complete and utter rubbish, we get this year after year at this venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Yeah.There was some interest in the meeting.It wasn't good,but it was far from the worst GP we have suffered in the last 4 or 5 years.And it was no worse than some of the other meetings such as EL or Polish stuff.Watched a few dreary Swedish meetings as well this week.And i thought it was Ermolenko that said it doesn't matter if it is slick or grippy at Prague it is still usually first out of the gate wins.You know what you are going to get at Prague,which is why i wouldn't bother going to a GP there Indeed, this was a long way from being the worst Grand Prix. Prague is always one of the least exciting GPs, but there seemed to be less gate bias than many of the previous gate and go fests we've seen in the Grand Prix. Biggest plus though was the addition of Jan S to the commentary team And congrats to Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Indeed, this was a long way from being the worst Grand Prix. Prague is always one of the least exciting GPs, but there seemed to be less gate bias than many of the previous gate and go fests we've seen in the Grand Prix. Biggest plus though was the addition of Jan S to the commentary team And congrats to Greg Forgot to mention Jan.Was very good + willing to admit when he saw things wrong.Hope we get him a few more times through the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Could not detest Holder tonight more if i tried, what a completely useless incompetent, ****... Dear oh dear After reading comments about the meeting i dont think i'll bother watching it on sky+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Dear oh dear After reading comments about the meeting i dont think i'll bother watching it on sky+ It wasn't actually that bad mate, worth watching just to hear Stekkers class co-commentary. Not a single woooaahhhh in earshot. Please SKY bring him in permanently. Thought Holder was unlucky and very honest in his interview. I can't see why anyone would dislike him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syko Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) Marketa always has and always be a slick track, that's just the way it is. The track curators only know how to produce a slick track, and as a result that's what they'll get each year. You can't just pile dirt on a track and hope it sticks, because A, on a track build like Marketa is, the dirt will just fly off the racing line, and B, it's just not safe. The Marketa of yesterday will be the Marketa for the rest of the season, whether it's for Olymp Praha, or for the Lubos Tomicek Memorial later in the year. The track curators won't know how "piling dirt" (which so many of you suggest) will have on the dynamics of the track and the way it acts. Yes I know that it's one of the worst GP's year on year, but there's not much the FIM can do about it, unless they want to have to build a track (a la Cardiff) in one of the stadiums in Prague (which from an economics point of view would be a disaster), or they completely scrap the Czech GP. Do we really want to see 4 or 5 GP's on Polish tracks each year? Let's not forget, the Czech Republic is one of the few countries in the world where there is even a small bit of interest in speedway. Take away the GP and it's probably curtains for the already battered Czech Speedway circuit. Edited May 29, 2011 by Syko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineman Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Pardubice is quite good, and no farther from Prague than Cardiff is from London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Jan was great,bring him in full time,so much better than the boring Tatum and the boring,sitting on the fence Louis $hit GP though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 It wasn't actually that bad mate, worth watching just to hear Stekkers class co-commentary. Not a single woooaahhhh in earshot. Please SKY bring him in permanently. Thought Holder was unlucky and very honest in his interview. I can't see why anyone would dislike him. Fair do's Blaze,i have not deleted it yet so might give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Agree that Stekkers came across well. Good analysis of all the racing incidents - big improvement on Kelvin. Two decent races - Heat 14 and the Matej Kus victory. Good to see Crumpy going over to congratulate Kus in the pits afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Forgot to mention Jan.Was very good + willing to admit when he saw things wrong.Hope we get him a few more times through the season Stekkers was excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 The highlight for me was not having to listen to Tatum's OOOHHH! every lap when a front wheel comes off the ground. Stekkers was a welcome change and I thought Pearson was much better without Pob. I did have to chuckle at some of Stek's cliches though but thought he did a good job. Nice to see Shawn Moran in the pits with Grin. Two real speedway legends. I would love to see Greg win it at 41, how he keeps on doing what he does is remarkable. Absolutely spot on. Stekkers commentary was excellent and as you say, Pearson toned down his as well. As someone else mentioned, Stekkers was giving a technical insight into the sport which has been so badly missing. It sounded 'intelligent' commentary for once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Absolutely spot on. Stekkers commentary was excellent and as you say, Pearson toned down his as well. As someone else mentioned, Stekkers was giving a technical insight into the sport which has been so badly missing. It sounded 'intelligent' commentary for once! He certainly added something to the coverage,and gave some good comments about the technical side of things when the camera went into the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I guess this is what was meant in a thread on here a couple of weeks ago when there are venues that suit the sport and venues that don't.............. If they keep Marketa slick 12 months of the year then the simple equation is that it doesnt suit the GP's as much as Gothenburg's lack of fans and likelyhood of rain doesnt suit...... as others have posted it isnt like Prague isnt always like this...... in fact the only time it wasnt was after a massive downpour and a 90 min break to take off the top surface Give their GP to another venue (if someone wants it) and tell them they only have a chance of getting it back if they start keeping a track which is more conducive to racing with actual passing...... yes they pay handsomely (and probably at a loss) to hold a GP at their venue... but that combined with the desirable location shouldnt mean that they can devalue the standard of racing... as in turn that devalues SGP's stock re: Jan ... he was 'ok' .... I don't know how much commentating experience he has already but if he doesn't have much then he did a good job...... as good as Kelvin? no chance!...... Kelvin may be many things including being a shouter and being in 'the job' for a while now but he is still good at what he does....... in comparison Jan was more like Peter Collins in that what he was saying was valuable but imo he 'doesnt sound the part'.... yet anyway ..as i'm sure these things don't come overnight...................... variety is the spice of life though and i'd be more than happy for jan or other guys to share the job with Kelvin considering the improvement in the tracks last year under Olsson the start of the GP's have been very disappointing so far.... this is not the way to grab fans and keep hold of them................ but the product is still great so hopefully things can get back to somewhere nearer to last year..... with 2 temp tracks coming up though the pressure is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 As so many others have said, the racing at Prague is consistantly poor, perhaps it's time to take that venue off the calendar? Personally, I'd like to see another GP over here, perhaps at Wolverhampton, which would certainly pose a different challenge yo the riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Thought Holder was unlucky and very honest in his interview. I can't see why anyone would dislike him. Ah, but the person who posted the attack on Chris Holder has a major problem with anything or anybody remotely Australian, Blazeaway; in fact there's quite a lot of it about - I put it down to personal inadequacies and envy. Well Done Greg - Oldies Rule, OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 As so many others have said, the racing at Prague is consistantly poor, perhaps it's time to take that venue off the calendar? Personally, I'd like to see another GP over here, perhaps at Wolverhampton, which would certainly pose a different challenge yo the riders! Wolverhampton?! It's bad enough having the British Final there. Where would they put the crowd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Wolverhampton?! It's bad enough having the British Final there. Where would they put the crowd? My thoughts exactly. Shefield or Coventry the only logical choices IMO. Or P'Boro with some temporary grandstands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Wolverhampton?! It's bad enough having the British Final there. Where would they put the crowd? My suggestion of Wolverhampton was based solely on the track, which would, in my opinion at least, give some variety in track shape. I hadn't given any thought to anything so mundane as practicalities! As blazeaway says there are relatively few permanent tracks on the UK with the infra structure necessary to hold a GP, but there are a few and a second GP in this country could on be a good thing imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 My thoughts exactly. Shefield or Coventry the only logical choices IMO. Or P'Boro with some temporary grandstands. Sheffield would make a great GP racing wise although don't they have the same problem as Wolves with no back straight viewing? It's been a while since I was there. Peterborough was a great SWC a couple of years ago and could be good for a GP. Coventry has the stadium but the track may let it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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