racers and royals Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 not that much i would say. (much?) less then what he would earn in England i'd say. However riding for Rospiggarna saves him the trouble of going back and forward between Sweden and England. I think racing Tuesday -Thursday- Sunday every other week plus Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday-Sunday the other weeks suits him well since it will give him time for his family as well. Am i right in thinking AJ has a lot of affection for Rospiggarna-did he start as a youngster with them.He has probably done them a favour this season.I`m sure he earns a lot less than riding for Dackarna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Am i right in thinking AJ has a lot of affection for Rospiggarna-did he start as a youngster with them.He has probably done them a favour this season.I`m sure he earns a lot less than riding for Dackarna he is a Rospigg from the start but he has been riding a few years for Dackarna/Luxo now. He still lives in Hallstavik some 10 minutes or so from the track. And of course he has an affection for them and as i said. He probably don't earn particular much from the racing itself. But merely considers it as a nice gesture for the team and the fans. The he gets some good practice from it as well. so IMO its a win win situation. Greg Hancock doesn't live that far away either. Edited September 14, 2011 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 he is a Rospigg from the start but he has been riding a few years for Dackarna/Luxo now. He still lives in Hallstavik some 10 minutes or so from the track. And of course he has an affection for them and as i said. He probably don't earn particular much from the racing itself. But merely considers it as a nice gesture for the team and the fans. The he gets some good practice from it as well. so IMO its a win win situation. Greg Hancock doesn't live that far away either. What you say makes absolute sense (as always ) and shows again why the Elite league in it's current form is on its last legs. Until they go with a single night-Wednesday, then you will have "teams" populated by r/r, guest, d/u. With Sundays for Poland, Tuesdays for Sweden, Thursdays for Russia, the GP's every other Saturday, I'd grab Wednesdays before someone else does. The recent video you posted about Greg and his family and what you say about Andreas makes perfect sense. I can here the Wolves moans already but IT IS THE ONLY WAY forward for a viable Elite league. Take care. Alan. PS. I was joking about Emil,who is worth every penny he gets. As all speedway riders are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Does Ghostwalker have any news about Thomas H. Jonasson? He scored 10 last night in the Elitserien. After not riding for Smederna today in the second leg Allsvenskan final i went to the Poole website to see how he did for them tonight to see England's most popular rider r/r took his place. After that awful tumble in the first leg, has he decided to take a complete (and probably much needed )break? Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 With Sundays for Poland, Tuesdays for Sweden, Thursdays for Russia, the GP's every other Saturday, I'd grab Wednesdays before someone else does. Isn't wednesday tha main night for Danish Superliga?Not the only night.But i thought the idea was that they can attract riders who ride in Sweden on tuesday.Brovst for instance were relying heavily on Polish riders who rode in Sweden tuesday.maybe it has changed now somewhat.On the other hand, i can't see the 8 meetings in Russia being a major problem to avoid.How many of the riders are in the EL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Does Ghostwalker have any news about Thomas H. Jonasson? He scored 10 last night in the Elitserien. After not riding for Smederna today in the second leg Allsvenskan final i went to the Poole website to see how he did for them tonight to see England's most popular rider r/r took his place. After that awful tumble in the first leg, has he decided to take a complete (and probably much needed )break? Regards. Alan. THJ took a decision after Tuesday's meeting that he would take a few days rest. So that he would be fit for Saturday's Individual Swedish Championship, Isn't wednesday tha main night for Danish Superliga?Not the only night.But i thought the idea was that they can attract riders who ride in Sweden on tuesday.Brovst for instance were relying heavily on Polish riders who rode in Sweden tuesday.maybe it has changed now somewhat.On the other hand, i can't see the 8 meetings in Russia being a major problem to avoid.How many of the riders are in the EL? it is. Edited September 15, 2011 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Isn't wednesday tha main night for Danish Superliga?Not the only night.But i thought the idea was that they can attract riders who ride in Sweden on tuesday.Brovst for instance were relying heavily on Polish riders who rode in Sweden tuesday.maybe it has changed now somewhat.On the other hand, i can't see the 8 meetings in Russia being a major problem to avoid.How many of the riders are in the EL? Sorry for forgetting about Denmark on Wednesdays. As for Russia, i have a feeling, from the meetings i have seen this year and the crowds and facilities on display, that there will be a wave of talent coming forth over the next five years. Emil and the Lagutas being merely the vanguard. The UK promoters are their own worst enemies and have an unsustainable business model which will cause an increasing number of clashes that will rebound on them. The example this week where Thomas H. Jonasson was given an ultimatum by Poole. Ride for us, not Smederna-in a championship final, no less, or face a ban. The situation was only averted because the poor lad is carrying an injury and said no to both. Emil tonight chose Russia over Coventry (quite rightly) but says he would have tried to get the Russian fixture changed had it been a playoff deciding meeting. Both situations involved rearranged fixtures, one down to our arch enemy, rain, and the other, rider availability.There's a shocker! It is totally understandable that riders want to maximise their earnings over a six month season but with half-baked teams being tracked to the detriment of the paying public, the UK has to change it's act. Poland and Sweden are the model, and Denmark lives within it's means- and good for all of them. Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 it says in today`s speedway star that neither Rospiggarna or Smederna are likely to accept promotion to the elite league-does this mean that the play-out will not actually see anyone relegated ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 it says in today`s speedway star that neither Rospiggarna or Smederna are likely to accept promotion to the elite league-does this mean that the play-out will not actually see anyone relegated ? that is a quite likely scenario. Smederna will only be asked if both Rospiggarna and the demotion series looser turns the offer down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Sorry for forgetting about Denmark on Wednesdays. As for Russia, i have a feeling, from the meetings i have seen this year and the crowds and facilities on display, that there will be a wave of talent coming forth over the next five years. Emil and the Lagutas being merely the vanguard. The UK promoters are their own worst enemies and have an unsustainable business model which will cause an increasing number of clashes that will rebound on them. The example this week where Thomas H. Jonasson was given an ultimatum by Poole. Ride for us, not Smederna-in a championship final, no less, or face a ban. The situation was only averted because the poor lad is carrying an injury and said no to both. Emil tonight chose Russia over Coventry (quite rightly) but says he would have tried to get the Russian fixture changed had it been a playoff deciding meeting. Both situations involved rearranged fixtures, one down to our arch enemy, rain, and the other, rider availability.There's a shocker! It is totally understandable that riders want to maximise their earnings over a six month season but with half-baked teams being tracked to the detriment of the paying public, the UK has to change it's act. Poland and Sweden are the model, and Denmark lives within it's means- and good for all of them. Regards. Alan. Sentiments along these lines have been posted on here probably hundreds if not thousands of times. Nothing changes though.Not quite sure about the wave of talent from Russia.We had the big hype about 4 or 5 years ago and they certainly lived above their means back then.The crowds might have stayed healthy,but the league had become something of a shambles.And even the talent seems to be changing alleigance.Just have to have followed Grigori's attempts to become a Latvian and Loktaev for instance becoming a Ukrainian.Something is not quite right.In fact i think you will probably find that the people running speedway in both Russia and Ukraine make the BSPA look good.where there is money and civic power there is corruption.A couple of the Mega Lada bigwigs have been bumped off i think.And there was big trouble at Trofimovs club in Ukraine trying to oust him.....Having said that i do like the look of both Loktaev and Bogdanow when i have seen them.Not of course that Bogdanow is Russian Edited September 15, 2011 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Sentiments along these lines have been posted on here probably hundreds if not thousands of times. Nothing changes though.Not quite sure about the wave of talent from Russia.We had the big hype about 4 or 5 years ago and they certainly lived above their means back then.The crowds might have stayed healthy,but the league had become something of a shambles.And even the talent seems to be changing alleigance.Just have to have followed Grigori's attempts to become a Latvian and Loktaev for instance becoming a Ukrainian.Something is not quite right.In fact i think you will probably find that the people running speedway in both Russia and Ukraine make the BSPA look good.where there is money and civic power there is corruption.A couple of the Mega Lada bigwigs have been bumped off i think.And there was big trouble at Trofimovs club in Ukraine trying to oust him.....Having said that i do like the look of both Loktaev and Bogdanow when i have seen them.Not of course that Bogdanow is Russian It was easy to know where they were from in the days of Igor Plechanov when there was this big red and yellow hammer and sickle on their breastplate. The recent World Under 21 Team Final, of which i saw the first five heats, was very impressive from every point of view. Stadium, crowd, organisation, and the Russian and Ukranian riders. I guess 20 years on from the fall of communism it is still a pretty lawless society and the examples you give are symptomatic of the society at large. We shall see how it all unfolds. Speedway and all. Best Wishes. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 It is totally understandable that riders want to maximise their earnings over a six month season but with half-baked teams being tracked to the detriment of the paying public, the UK has to change it's act. Poland and Sweden are the model, and Denmark lives within it's means- and good for all of them. Regards. Alan. Think you are being a bit harsh on the U.K. Promoters Alan. You have to remember that the majority of stadia where Speedway is staged, the clubs are tenants at the mercy of their landlords. Where Speedway shares the facilities with others (Greyhounds, Football, Stockcars, etc.), if you were to restrict all EL racing to one specific day of the week, it is likely that some clubs would not be able to run outwith their current raceday. The difficulties are compounded by the highly restrictive planning laws in the UK which often limit location, running times, and actual days. These restrictions also hinder youth development. Unlike other countries where Speedway is encouraged by their authorities (including financial assistance, UK Officialdom sometimes appears to be on a witch hunt to exterminate the sport here. Operating in such a hostile climate, it is no secret that most Promoters are in it for the love of the sport and subsidise its running. Rather than consolidate on a single race day, I wonder if the EL clubs will instead forego the top level foreigners and cut their cloth accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 "Rather than consolidate on a single race day, I wonder if the EL clubs will instead forego the top level foreigners and cut their cloth accordingly." One or the other because you can't have both and call it "Elite" I believe you need a shake-up akin to that which has occurred in Rugby League. A complete rethinking and rebranding because it's dying on its feet compared to Sweden and Poland. I think you could run an "Elite" competition on a single night with 9 home and 9 away meetings plus playoffs and have viable "Domestic" speedway on other nights.People know the stars cost money and will pay accordingly to see them. But the attitude in Britain is always, first and foremost why it won't work, rather than "Let's give it a whirl" Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Smederna wants to replace Pulcynski brothers and Gunnestad. I can agree on Emil and Kamil but i definitely want to keep Gunnestad. Smederna want to bring in Alex Edberg and Ricky Kling. Ricky's average is way to high compared to the points he contributes with. Gunnestad perhaps have had a particular good season but i think he improved during the second half of the season and i think he has allot of potential. besides he almost managed to keep the same average level as he started the season on. He has went from 1,087 to 0,956 which is ok for the first season in Allsvenskan. Although i agree on that he needs more meetings then only Allsvenskan If i am entitled to dream I would like the following: Henrik Karlsson Linus Eklöf Daniel Henderson Alexander Edberg Rasmus Eklöf Daniel Gunnestad Rasmus Eklöf or a new rider, Jacob Thorssell or Timo Lahti perhaps? Kenni Larsen Rasmus Broberg can be included outside the regular 8 riders as his average will remain at 0,5 since he only have ridden 15 heats (16 heat is required for a new average) Guestriders: THJ Zorro Ricky Kling or Jacob Thorssell or Rasmus EKlöf if you look at Smedernas squad this season 4 riders with an average higher then 0,5 that can be removed: Emil Pulcynski 2,334 Kamil Pulcynski 2,334 Robert Henderson 1.000 Jimmy Jansson 0,652 Some really good news though that Smederna will finish the season with a 100'000 kr profit (£9446 / $14580 / €10822 / 48391 Polish Zloty) http://folket.se/sportfolket/1.1193415 Edited September 22, 2011 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Smederna's first lineups for this season: 1. Magnus Zetterström, 2. Linus Eklöf, 3. Peter Karlsson, 4. Ricky Kling, 5. Kenni Larsen, 6. Stefan Hurtig, 7. Daniel Henderson. http://ekuriren.se/sport/speedway/1.1428855-hurtig-overraskning-i-smedernas-premiarlag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Smederna's first lineups for this season: 1. Magnus Zetterström, 2. Linus Eklöf, 3. Peter Karlsson, 4. Ricky Kling, 5. Kenni Larsen, 6. Stefan Hurtig, 7. Daniel Henderson. http://ekuriren.se/s...rnas-premiarlag Hopefully we will be able to watch it . Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 the meeting between Örnarna and Ikaros Smederna tomorrow have been postponed due to rain, its been raining all day and more rain is expected tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 the meeting between Örnarna and Ikaros Smederna tomorrow have been postponed due to rain, its been raining all day and more rain is expected tomorrow Best Wishes. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) GREAT NEWS. Common sense has prevailed. Pencil in your Thursdays ladies and gentlemen ! http://www.speedwayallsvenskan.se/ Sad we won't see Smederna but let's hope the rain gods bless the other two matches. Join you then. Alan. Edited May 9, 2012 by brandonbee48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Unfortunately i have to work today so i will miss Allsvenskan. My main hope for those that watch, and most of all the spectators, track staff and riders, is that we get the two remaining meetings on. Enjoy. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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