Mildenhall V Belle Vue - Sunday 8th May

[PhilK]

Mildenhall 'Fen Tigers' are back in action next sunday with visit of the Belle Vue 'Colts'

 

Likely line-ups

 

MILDENHALL:

1 James Brundle

2 Aaron Baseby

3 Joe Jacobs

4 Daniel Halsey

5 Jack Hargreaves

6 Danny Stoneman

7 Lewis Blackbird

 

BELLE VUE:

1 Byron Bekker

2 Scott Richardson

3 Kyle Howarth

4 Karl Mason

5 Adam McKinna

6 Chris Widman

7 Jason Garrity

 

Belle Vue have made a decent start to the season and have two exciting young talents in Garrity and Howarth. Could be close, I'll go for 52-41

Edited May 1, 2011 by PhilK

[norwichkev]

Think could be a close one, BV very unlucky at Rye House on Saturday especially over the last 3 heats - and that was without Garrity, fancy they would have won by a few had he have been there.

 

Could be a good one for the neutrals, Bekker knows his way around West Row and all of the others chipped in with some good rides.

 

Haven't heard any update on Cameron yet - is he here yet?

Edited May 2, 2011 by norwichkev

[Damon]

Think could be a close one, BV very unlucky at Rye House on Saturday especially over the last 3 heats - and that was without Garrity, fancy they would have won by a few had he have been there.

 

Could be a good one for the neutrals, Bekker knows his way around West Row and all of the others chipped in with some good rides.

 

Haven't heard any update on Cameron yet - is he here yet?

Shame about Cameron not being here? I shall miss this meeting as Im off to the International Rugby 7s competition at Bury. Perhaps Cameron will be present at the next home meeting against Kings Lynn??

[PhilK]

Update on the situation re Heeps on Official club website today.

[NeilWatson]

Mildenhall Fen Tigers management team admit they are growing "very frustrated" at the continuing delays in getting clearance for teenage Australian star Cameron Heeps to join the rest of the team.

 

The club fought off a number of other sides to sign the 15 year old, rated as one of the best prospects from Down Under for years.

 

After not making it for the start of the season, it had been hoped that Heeps would be here in time for Sunday's National League clash against Belle Vue Colts at West Row. But the paperwork needed for him to come to this country is taking far longer to complete than anyone expected.

 

Mildenhall co promoter Michael Lee said, "We had hoped the Australian immigration people would have given us some idea of how much longer this is going to take to sort out. But unfortunately it doesn't work like that. So like Cameron, who just wants to come over and race, we have to sit and wait."

 

"We do feel we now have to put a time limit on everything coming together, and if there is no positive news by the end of May we'll have to look at alternative options, which is the last thing any of us wants to do as it was a real coup to get Cameron for us and our supporters."

 

Lee added, "Everything else is going brilliantly on and off the track and now we can't wait for Sunday's match against the Colts. We are expecting another big crowd as we try and keep our unbeaten start to the season going. If the match is anything like our opener against Dudley and the away match at King's Lynn, supporters will be in for another treat."

 

 

[montie]

Mildenhall Fen Tigers management team admit they are growing "very frustrated" at the continuing delays in getting clearance for teenage Australian star Cameron Heeps to join the rest of the team.

 

The club fought off a number of other sides to sign the 15 year old, rated as one of the best prospects from Down Under for years.

 

After not making it for the start of the season, it had been hoped that Heeps would be here in time for Sunday's National League clash against Belle Vue Colts at West Row. But the paperwork needed for him to come to this country is taking far longer to complete than anyone expected.

 

Mildenhall co promoter Michael Lee said, "We had hoped the Australian immigration people would have given us some idea of how much longer this is going to take to sort out. But unfortunately it doesn't work like that. So like Cameron, who just wants to come over and race, we have to sit and wait."

 

"We do feel we now have to put a time limit on everything coming together, and if there is no positive news by the end of May we'll have to look at alternative options, which is the last thing any of us wants to do as it was a real coup to get Cameron for us and our supporters."

 

Lee added, "Everything else is going brilliantly on and off the track and now we can't wait for Sunday's match against the Colts. We are expecting another big crowd as we try and keep our unbeaten start to the season going. If the match is anything like our opener against Dudley and the away match at King's Lynn, supporters will be in for another treat."

 

what paper work does the lad need other than a passort if he is British????

Edited May 3, 2011 by montie

[norwichkev]

what paper work does the lad need other than a passort if he is British????

Is it not dual patriality? If so I would suspect he would still have Australian hurdles to jump - frustrating for us but great to see a country that cares who comes in and out of their borders, add to that their winning mentality and we have a lot to learn.

 

Great to see the learning starting at West Row, maybe we can roll it out to the rest of the U.K..

 

Kev

[roguetrader]

It really questions why Mildenhall are trying to develop an Australian in the British National Development League.

[Halifaxtiger]

It really questions why Mildenhall are trying to develop an Australian in the British National Development League.

 

I would have thought that was rather obvious - he is apparently that good he will make a mockery of his starting average. Not only that, but he'll become a club asset and move on to Ipswich (presumably).

 

Its not just a development league for the likes of Mildenhall (although the tie up with Ipswich is pretty clear), its their bread and butter. Unlike others, they only have a limited interest in developing riders (some, such as Dudley, have even less) and consequently a major part of their ethos is winning meetings to get the crowds in.

 

My own view is that banning all foreigners from the NL was a mistake, because while 1 per team would have had little impact on development, it would have added considerably to the colour and attraction of the league and I would point to the likes of Poole, North and Dyer as evidence.

[frostylion]

It really questions why Mildenhall are trying to develop an Australian in the British National Development League.

 

Australian being the operative word,if he had the dual passport,that is all that is needed,do you honestly believe the press release???

 

Hes no more English or dual than Mr.O. Bin Laden

Edited May 3, 2011 by frostylion

[norwichkev]

Australian being the operative word,if he had the dual passport,that is all that is needed,do you honestly believe the press release???

 

Hes no more English or dual than Mr.O. Bin Laden

Why would you not believe it? If he did not have dual patriality he could not ride in the NL anyway.

 

The latter is I believe now deceased, so there could be an availability issue, although International terrorists I believe come in on an average of 666 so could probably only fit in at the likes of Poole or Coventry at reserve

Edited May 4, 2011 by norwichkev

[greyhoundp]

I would have thought that was rather obvious - he is apparently that good he will make a mockery of his starting average. Not only that, but he'll become a club asset and move on to Ipswich (presumably).

 

Its not just a development league for the likes of Mildenhall (although the tie up with Ipswich is pretty clear), its their bread and butter. Unlike others, they only have a limited interest in developing riders (some, such as Dudley, have even less) and consequently a major part of their ethos is winning meetings to get the crowds in.

 

My own view is that banning all foreigners from the NL was a mistake, because while 1 per team would have had little impact on development, it would have added considerably to the colour and attraction of the league and I would point to the likes of Poole, North and Dyer as evidence.

 

HT, you know it really gets up my nose, when it is said we have no interest in developing riders, that is blatently untrue, the NL is not only for developing Riders its about Developing Clubs, this aspect of the NL is very rarely mentioned, and i just wish it was possible for all Teams such as Hackney,Long Eaton,Halifax,Bristol, etc,etc to be able to run in the NL, while trying to find a new Stadium site, HT i know you do lots of good work for Speedway especially young riders so my comment is not aimed at you, but only what you surmise to be true.

 

Some years ago i was involved in trying to find a suitable site for the Heathens, and one time we thought we had done that, that site would have been based very much along the Scunthorpe blueprint, and even involved Classroom tuition to involve set ups etc,etc, bikes provided free to train with for local youngsters etc,etc, but "Sport England" in their wisdom decided to opose the chosen site.

[Halifaxtiger]

HT, you know it really gets up my nose, when it is said we have no interest in developing riders, that is blatently untrue, the NL is not only for developing Riders its about Developing Clubs, this aspect of the NL is very rarely mentioned, and i just wish it was possible for all Teams such as Hackney,Long Eaton,Halifax,Bristol, etc,etc to be able to run in the NL, while trying to find a new Stadium site, HT i know you do lots of good work for Speedway especially young riders so my comment is not aimed at you, but only what you surmise to be true.

 

Some years ago i was involved in trying to find a suitable site for the Heathens, and one time we thought we had done that, that site would have been based very much along the Scunthorpe blueprint, and even involved Classroom tuition to involve set ups etc,etc, bikes provided free to train with for local youngsters etc,etc, but "Sport England" in their wisdom decided to opose the chosen site.

 

Fair point

 

In trying to show that some clubs are not in the NL primarily for the development of riders I gave the impression that they are not interested in that at all.

 

Quite clearly that isn't true.

 

I'd say the primary aims of the double up clubs are to bring on their own assets whilst the stand alones are to run speedway at a level they can afford, but I daresay double up clubs would like to make a few quid while young riders do get opportunities at the stand alone teams.

 

Dudley, as you have correctly pointed out, are also there with the ultimate aim of re-establishing themselves in their own set up and where that's concerned they are unique.

 

Every success to them.

[Halifaxtiger]

Australian being the operative word,if he had the dual passport,that is all that is needed,do you honestly believe the press release???

 

Hes no more English or dual than Mr.O. Bin Laden

 

My understanding is that he most certainly does have the patriality necessary to ride in the NL (although I suspect he will, if necessary, declare himself to be Australian) and that the hold up is something to do with his age and getting a work permit at this end rather than at the Australian one.

[Jayne]

My understanding is that he most certainly does have the patriality necessary to ride in the NL (although I suspect he will, if necessary, declare himself to be Australian) and that the hold up is something to do with his age and getting a work permit at this end rather than at the Australian one.

 

 

I believe this has been mentioned before but if you have patriality you don't need a work permit and to be eligible to claim patriality you have to be 17 or over. Work permit riders are not permitted in the National League.

[whowasthatberntpersson]

Is it not dual patriality? If so I would suspect he would still have Australian hurdles to jump - frustrating for us but great to see a country that cares who comes in and out of their borders, add to that their winning mentality and we have a lot to learn.

 

Great to see the learning starting at West Row, maybe we can roll it out to the rest of the U.K..

 

Kev

 

Aussies with dual patriality do not need anything other than a passport, it is very simple. They can get the Aussie passport through birth rights and British through parents or grandparents, thats all there is to it.

 

Due to the delay I get the impression Cameron is having problems getting a British passport?????????????????????

[PhilK]

On the BSPA site Danny Stoneman has signed for Dudley replacing Luke Chessell!

Chessell would seem a decent option for Mildenhall whilst we wait on Cameron Heeps.

Certainly took a liking to our track in the 2010 U21 semi final and if our promotion

could get him going he would be a useful reserve.

[BigFatDave]

Aussies with dual patriality do not need anything other than a passport, it is very simple. They can get the Aussie passport through birth rights and British through parents or grandparents, thats all there is to it.

 

Due to the delay I get the impression Cameron is having problems getting a British passport?????????????????????

First impressions are always good. Maybe a little englander in the Passport Office?

[aljack]

Really looking forward to this meeting, its so great Mildenhall are back on track with a fantastic promoting team. Shame Heeps is not here yet but never mind Im sure he will aventually arrive and provide some real excitement. Cant wait to get some more of the very tasty fish n" chips at the stadium, it must be the best £5 ever spent

[2ndbendpostie]

Hoping for a dry afternoon, and some good racing, we have increased our group by 50% for this one so if we all do that then there will be a hell of a crowd !. Did you get some rain there yesterday ?, if not I hope they have given it a good soaking as they did for the match against Dudley, the track looked very good that day. Weather reports from stadium area would he helpfull so we know what to expect before travelling.