ladyluck Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Ole Olsen thinks there could be up to EIGHTEEN GPs in 2012: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2011/04/13/ole-olsen-odpowiednia-liczba-zawodow-w-cyklu-gp-18/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsportowefakty%2Bzuzel%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1TSEA_ENUK335%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhgcBoyD0jIvRj_EIp0dXjlRpoOWQ Edited April 13, 2011 by ladyluck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Danish article also includes Nicki and would suggest that things have moved on with New Zealand. http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/motorsport/speedway/article1536023.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 "Two years ago, finished the job as director of the series and was director of the slag at the International Federation of Sports Motorcycle (FIM)." I wonder who he's director of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) "Two years ago, finished the job as director of the series and was director of the slag at the International Federation of Sports Motorcycle (FIM)." I wonder who he's director of? That's a translation of the Polish expression for speedway. I believe it has something to do with track material. Edited April 13, 2011 by ladyluck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Ole Olsen thinks there could be up to EIGHTEEN GPs in 2012: Just a fluff piece to keep the SGP in the news, and nothing new from Olsen. Just where are these 7 extra GPs going to be held? The same old proposed venues trotted out again, even as Mr Rising only days ago discounted a GP being held in Russia. Edited April 13, 2011 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Get back to Hamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 HAVE tried to speak to Ole today (as yet without any joy) but can only think something might have got lost in translation. Apart from anything else, where would they find 18 weekends? I know Bernie Eccelstone appears to be trying to stage an F1 event every other week (at least) but speedway riders have to earn their corn outside of the SGP series. Personally I would have thought we are at the max in Europe right now and it will be a long time before there is much expansion elsewhere other than NZ (looking good) and perhaps Oz. Suitable venues remain a significant problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 HAVE tried to speak to Ole today (as yet without any joy) but can only think something might have got lost in translation. Maybe when the golem gets back from his trip to the land of make believe you'll have better luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I believe eventually, the GP's WILL be independent from the rest of world speedway like F1 and race every fortnight. I've said it before, maybe teams will rise into the world stage like F1 & MOTO GP. Works Jawa Works GM Works Honda Team Rickardsson Team Gollob Redbull Racing Monster Racing etc etc Then you have 4 independent qualifier spots each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I believe eventually, the GP's WILL be independent from the rest of world speedway like F1 and race every fortnight. Not likely, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe when the golem gets back from his trip to the land of make believe you'll have better luck. HAVE absolutely no idea what that means ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I believe eventually, the GP's WILL be independent from the rest of world speedway like F1 and race every fortnight. I've said it before, maybe teams will rise into the world stage like F1 & MOTO GP. Works Jawa Works GM Works Honda Team Rickardsson Team Gollob Redbull Racing Monster Racing etc etc Then you have 4 independent qualifier spots each season. VERY unlikely. Speedway riders (a) have to earn money from league racing and ( need more racing than GPs will ever provide. Kelvin Tatum was one who tried to run a team (Niklas Klingberg) but the financial backing wasn't forthcoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 HAVE absolutely no idea what that means ... I think the 'lady' refers to Ole Olsen as the Golem.. Anyway, I can see a time in the near future that the Gp's will be independent from league racing. They need to pay a lot more to the riders of course but commercially it will be possible with corporate sponsorship, and it will happen in due course. The GP's will just continue to develop whilst the league system will survive as a lower tier at best without the Gp riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think the 'lady' refers to Ole Olsen as the Golem. Anyway, I can see a time in the near future that the Gp's will be independent from league racing. They need to pay a lot more to the riders of course but commercially it will be possible with corporate sponsorship, and it will happen in due course. The GP's will just continue to develop whilst the league system will survive as a lower tier at best without the Gp riders. Dream on.Even Mr Rising doesn't believe that will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Think the Danish article suggested 18 gps in future and this was translated into 18 next year in polish article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Ole Olsen thinks there could be up to EIGHTEEN GPs in 2012: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2011/04/13/ole-olsen-odpowiednia-liczba-zawodow-w-cyklu-gp-18/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsportowefakty%2Bzuzel%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1TSEA_ENUK335%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhgcBoyD0jIvRj_EIp0dXjlRpoOWQ Olsen obviuosly wants to finish off British Speedway, and if that goes ahead it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Olsen obviuosly wants to finish off British Speedway, and if that goes ahead it will. It has not been helping itself of late has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 It has not been helping itself of late has it? yeah your right. But any GP riders left in the EL if this goes ahead will not ride or be-able to ride in this country, then where does it leave this League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) yeah your right. But any GP riders left in the EL if this goes ahead will not ride or be-able to ride in this country, then where does it leave this League? I cant answer that as I dont know the answer mate. I think there will always be leagues and teams but speedway as a global sport will gradually rely less on the league team emphasis. If they paid enough now a lot of GP riders would drop riding in teams in the UK one day and Poland or Sweden the next. I follow their tweets and it does never come over as anything like fun for them with all the international commuting they have to endure to make a decent living. Say to one of them: I will give you a million dollars but forget teams anywhere just ride in the GPs - what do think would be their response? It will come for sure but as long as there are leagues here in this country Poole will always be a part of it as one of the famous teams. (I apologise Starman if that reply to your post sounded patronising. It was not meant to be.) Edited April 13, 2011 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I believe eventually, the GP's WILL be independent from the rest of world speedway like F1 and race every fortnight. Well it's been predicted for at least the last 15 years, and I'm not sure it's any nearer happening now than then. The obvious problem is there are barely 18 countries where speedway is ridden, and only about six of those are professional to any significant level. Okay, the likes of Britain, Poland, Sweden and Denmark could possibly sustain 2 or 3 GPs each, but that would still require 6 or more GPs to be staged in 'smaller' countries and that seems optimistic. Secondly, staging 18 rounds would bring the SGP into conflict with the Polish League as it's really going to be impractical to schedule its fixtures once every two weeks. Staging a GP and round of the Polish League on the same weekend might work for the Polish GPs, but not for further flung GPs. Plus of course, a GP rain-off would cause havoc as the reserve dates are on Sundays. Finally, IMG already have the pick of the riders they want and make a profit on the SGP, so why would they want to take on responsibility for paying the riders full time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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