DutchGrasstrack Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 2012 Provisional calendar: 29.04 - Qualifying Round - Neustad Donau - Germany 19.05 - Qualifying Round - Gorican - Croatia 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc - Finland 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc 02.06 - Semifinal - tbc - Italy 02.06 - Semifinal - Balakovo - Russia 21.07 - Final 1 - Lendava - Slovenia 04.08 - Final 2 - tbc - Italy 15.09 - Final 3 - tbc - Poland 29.09 - Final 4 - tbc- United Kingdom 06.10 - Final 5 - Pardubice - Czech Republic November - Final 6 - Bahia Blanca - Argentina November - Final 7 - Bahia Blanca - Argentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 2012 Provisional calendar: 29.04 - Qualifying Round - Neustad Donau - Germany 19.05 - Qualifying Round - Gorican - Croatia 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc - Finland 19.05 - Qualifying Round - tbc 02.06 - Semifinal - tbc - Italy 02.06 - Semifinal - Balakovo - Russia 21.07 - Final 1 - Lendava - Slovenia 04.08 - Final 2 - tbc - Italy 15.09 - Final 3 - tbc - Poland 29.09 - Final 4 - tbc- United Kingdom 06.10 - Final 5 - Pardubice - Czech Republic November - Final 6 - Bahia Blanca - Argentina November - Final 7 - Bahia Blanca - Argentina Amazing if it comes true. It makes sense to run two rounds in Argentina. It shows how ambitious the Argentineans are. Australia and USA take note! The world under 21 Championship will then become a world u-21 SGP series. I hope that they can sell the TV rights because this would make good entertainment watching in on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I wonder who is going to be footing the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I wonder who is going to be footing the bill? And given the reviews in the past, that track certainly will need a lot of work to give a surface befitting a world final not a bush league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 FIM provisional 2012 calendar here: http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Communiques_de_presse/FIM_Championships_without_Promoter_-_2012_provisional_calendars,_12_April.pdf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 And given the reviews in the past, that track certainly will need a lot of work to give a surface befitting a world final not a bush league. It's fair to say it's a breath-taking track They could have 8 riders in a race easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 And given the reviews in the past, that track certainly will need a lot of work to give a surface befitting a world final not a bush league. Certainly hope so.But let us not forget there have been some dodgy European tracks that have held big meetings.Wiener Neustadt springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Any idea which British track may host the one Final to be staged in the UK on September 29th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 dodgy Dodgy would describe the surrounding area quite well....but the track is amazing ! Yeah it'll need a bit of work, but nothing major. And the Argentine fans are just brilliant November's a good time to go as well, perfect weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Don't meetings there go on into the early hours of the morning? As for Bavarian's question, it could easily be Brandon. I think Brandon was scheduled for one this season, but it was switched to Wimborne Road while the future of Brandon's club was in doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Don't meetings there go on into the early hours of the morning? Everything does round there When it's proper hot, they start very late, 9 or 9:30 so yeah they'll just keep running til whenever...they love it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Would be awesome Any moves to take top level speedway outisde of Europe should be applauded, it's ambitious & exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 This year the points money (in U21 championship) for the semifinalists in Balakovo are between 1175 for the winner and 400 for 18th. From the final the winner gets 1650 and 18th gets 475., All amounts are in Euros. Balakovo is put on the middle of the season again to highlight that the FIM idiots did not learn anything from the disaster that hit them in 2010. I hope I made my point. I'll give this the thumbs up when they tell that someone is paying the riders transport in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 This year the points money (in U21 championship) for the semifinalists in Balakovo are between 1175 for the winner and 400 for 18th. From the final the winner gets 1650 and 18th gets 475., All amounts are in Euros. Balakovo is put on the middle of the season again to highlight that the FIM idiots did not learn anything from the disaster that hit them in 2010. I hope I made my point. I'll give this the thumbs up when they tell that someone is paying the riders transport in full. Maybe the two meetings are to help it pay for the riders?Maybe the two meetings are to help it pay for the promoter?I was wondering if they have put two meetings on to try and make sure the title isn't already won in Europe.As you then might see a number of riders pull out through "injury"......Seem to think i remember problems with the Longtrack title being held in New Zealand.Riss or Barth wasn't happy about travelling down under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe the two meetings are to help it pay for the riders?Maybe the two meetings are to help it pay for the promoter?I was wondering if they have put two meetings on to try and make sure the title isn't already won in Europe.As you then might see a number of riders pull out through "injury"......Seem to think i remember problems with the Longtrack title being held in New Zealand.Riss or Barth wasn't happy about travelling down under Whatever the reasons, in my opinion, the money in speedway is not big enough to support this miniGP for the U21's. Doesn't matter who it is from the 15+1+2 or similar group of riders attending (Balakovo or Bahia Blanca) someone DEFINATELY will finish in the middle of the rankings and will make the designated 650 euros for his efforts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Whatever the reasons, in my opinion, the money in speedway is not big enough to support this miniGP for the U21's. Doesn't matter who it is from the 15+1+2 or similar group of riders attending (Balakovo or Bahia Blanca) someone DEFINATELY will finish in the middle of the rankings and will make the designated 650 euros for his efforts... Like i said,i can definitely see a few riders pulling out for various reasons if they are not in contention.And if someone has the title sewn up i could see them also pulling out.I hope not.I hope this is a success.But the riders shouldn't be out of pocket on this venture.You only have to see and read about the riders who pull out of travelling to Russia or who don't try to qualify if they know they will be going through to the next meeting in Russia.Happens a fair bit with speedway riders.The Ice Racing guys seem to be ok with the trips though.Marian Kreklau always asked to be given the Russian qualies,rather than Austria or Sweden or wherever!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Whatever the reasons, in my opinion, the money in speedway is not big enough to support this miniGP for the U21's. It's questionable whether there is really enough money in speedway to support the senior GPs. They'd struggle to stand alone, without the riders getting income from the domestic leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Whatever the reasons, in my opinion, the money in speedway is not big enough to support this miniGP for the U21's. Doesn't matter who it is from the 15+1+2 or similar group of riders attending (Balakovo or Bahia Blanca) someone DEFINATELY will finish in the middle of the rankings and will make the designated 650 euros for his efforts... Some would say if a young rider is serious about a career, he has to invest, he has to work to get sponsors, he has to accept that free holidays must be earned. Try and get up the ladder, or just play around at the bottom... Not me obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Some would say if a young rider is serious about a career, he has to invest, he has to work to get sponsors, he has to accept that free holidays must be earned. Try and get up the ladder, or just play around at the bottom... I agree on all that, but still think that a change of this size (going from oneoff to three and now seven!) needs changes on the financial side as well. Kauko Nieminen was drawed to Balakovo last year for the raceoff in in the GP qualis and he said there would have been flights for him and a mechanic (+engine) available for around 2000 euros while the winning prize money was 2300 euros. He was told about a local frame for him to use but later that said frame was nowhere to be found. Driving to Balakovo from Seinäjoki Finland was 3500 km each way and to do that in the middle of the season is a no go. On top of the time it takes alone there's all kinds of insurances that are all VERY specific when Russia is the target of your travel. I guess I dont have to mention that they are not cheap either as around 1000 euros was mentioned. One of the Polish riders was held at the border for 20 hours basically for fun. A joint venture of all the riders gathering their gear somewhere and the local club taking them to the track was also proposed, but the locals did not want to take the risk. And before mark246 says all this is not a problem for ice racers, I know that. But then again ice racers ride a LOT less that the speedway riders that are in these competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Don't meetings there go on into the early hours of the morning? As for Bavarian's question, it could easily be Brandon. I think Brandon was scheduled for one this season, but it was switched to Wimborne Road while the future of Brandon's club was in doubt. Isn't Bahia Blanca in Argentina like Western Springs in Auckland, New Zealand (site for possible 2012 GP) primarily a midget car track? Speedway is moving in with new bedfellows - so to speak. Edited April 13, 2011 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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