ImpartialOne Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 It was released by the BSPA but is a joint statement. "THE BSPA and Coventry and Peterborough are delighted to announce" so presumably took the talents of all three to draft. Whoever it was it's appalling, repetitive and appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylor Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) I suppose this lull after the stormy winter was only to be expected, however, are we about to see any of the content of the agreement, a new rule book and details of the arbitration setup and procedures? I'm not intending to restart the vitriol but it does seem a shame after all that kicking, scratching and blood letting to know so little of what it was all for and whether it was indeed good for the future of the sport in the UK? Only by seeing at least some of the detail can we begin to make a reasoned judgement, not that we're much good at that here these days eh? Edited April 11, 2011 by Mylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 We wont see any detail Sandhu's statement on the bees web site says that details of the settlement "had to remain private" so the only detail we will get to know about will be the rule changes and a few details that get leaked out but I suspect we will never get the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 And I know why it has to remain private. Because bribery is a part of the sport. The BSPA statement says "Trump admits he said things which could have been AVOIDED." It should have said "Trump admits he made claims that were unfounded and we would like to make it clear that allegations made by Trump against BSPA and it's members are untrue." But they can't say that because the BSPA is as bent as a Barrymore barbecue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 And I know why it has to remain private. Because bribery is a part of the sport. The BSPA statement says "Trump admits he said things which could have been AVOIDED." It should have said "Trump admits he made claims that were unfounded and we would like to make it clear that allegations made by Trump against BSPA and it's members are untrue." But they can't say that because the BSPA is as bent as a Barrymore barbecue. Is that the same BSPA that has C & P in membership now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Is that the same BSPA that has C & P in membership now? That's the one. Did you think I meant the British Skewbald and Piebald Association? I don't get your point. Edited April 12, 2011 by ImpartialOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 And I know why it has to remain private. Because bribery is a part of the sport. The BSPA statement says "Trump admits he said things which could have been AVOIDED." It should have said "Trump admits he made claims that were unfounded and we would like to make it clear that allegations made by Trump against BSPA and it's members are untrue." But they can't say that because the BSPA is as bent as a Barrymore barbecue. Lets take BSPA on that BBC programme, you can be Uri Geller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 The news we have all been waiting for.... Swindon have a league point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 That's the one. Did you think I meant the British Skewbald and Piebald Association? I don't get your point. Your comments re 'the BSPA', by definition mean 'all promoters', unless you clarify your point more succinctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Your comments re 'the BSPA', by definition mean 'all promoters', unless you clarify your point more succinctly! No it doesn't. It means the association. I happen to like Jon Cook so does that mean I have to like BSPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROCK Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 No it doesn't. It means the association. I happen to like Jon Cook so does that mean I have to like BSPA? But surely an association is made up of members of which Jon Cook is one. So are you saying Cook is, in your words, bent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBrian Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) I think what was meant was that the entire Old Boys Network which make up the BSPA and which includes the promoters of all clubs are a closed shop organisation. The farce that this winter served up shows that the fans cannot trust any of the promoters (ie the BSPA - it's the same thing!) to self-police the sport... It's clearly why a fully independent body is required to run the sport, which has no ties, allegiances or financial obligations and/or interests to any single promotion. Edited April 13, 2011 by BongoBrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomo1 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) I think what was meant was that the entire Old Boys Network which make up the BSPA and which includes the promoters of all clubs are a closed shop organisation. The farce that this winter served up shows that the fans cannot trust any of the promoters (ie the BSPA - it's the same thing!) to self-police the sport... It's clearly why a fully independent body is required to run the sport, which has no ties, allegiances or financial obligations and/or interests to any single promotion. Please excuse me while I put my head above the 'cloud' and watch that 'cuckoo land'! Edited April 13, 2011 by Bomo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 But surely an association is made up of members of which Jon Cook is one. So are you saying Cook is, in your words, bent? No I am not. Surely you can see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROCK Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 No I am not. Surely you can see the difference? In one breath you are saying the BSPA is bent, then in the next breath you are saying, well perhaps not all of them. Make your mind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 And I know why it has to remain private. Because bribery is a part of the sport. The BSPA statement says "Trump admits he said things which could have been AVOIDED." It should have said "Trump admits he made claims that were unfounded and we would like to make it clear that allegations made by Trump against BSPA and it's members are untrue." But they can't say that because the BSPA is as bent as a Barrymore barbecue. Your comments re 'the BSPA', by definition mean 'all promoters', unless you clarify your point more succinctly! The Important Ones post reads that he considers the "BSPA is as bent as a Barrymore barbecue". I would take that to mean all members of the association. No I am not. Surely you can see the difference? Yes you are unless you would like to define your comment further by saying the BSPA is bent except for the following members...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 In one breath you are saying the BSPA is bent, then in the next breath you are saying, well perhaps not all of them. Make your mind up That would be a tough ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe if we use building blocks with big letters on it would help you to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe if we use building blocks with big letters on it would help you to understand. Or maybe we could start a whole new trend and you answer a direct question for once. Without resorting to a smug put down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 As we were all repeatedly informed, the BSPA is a "democratic" organisation ruled by "majority" vote. Decisions made by majority are, only by implication, supported by all members but are, in reality, likely to have one or more dissenters. It is therefore possible to refer to the collective BSPA ijn any conversation but that does not per se mean ALL of the members unless specifically stated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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