speedibee Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Typical response from a Cov fan. If Leicester asked the BSPA for permission then it didn't have to be granted. How many special favours did Cov ask for to put their toys back in the pram before the start of the season? Any way, as you don't even go to Leicester why are you worrying about it? Cov got no Favours from the Idiots at Rugby ,all they wanted was to play by the same rules as everyone else and not be penalised for being succesful , the exact reverse of what your lot are doing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You've over stepped it here speedibee I've ran football teams at various levels for over 20 years and believe the military precision local level football is run at would far out do many professional bodies as well as the BSPA Newport and Berwick should count themselves lucky not to be involved in what until this nation hosts the olympics is the biggest joke ever think of the money their fans will save not travelling hundreds of miles to watch the gate and go rubbish BP throws up heat After heat no much better putting the money on a couple of months broadband to come on forums And moan As a Lions fan I'm glad we have a decent team to track is it fair no. should it be at an elite league stadium yes and the top 8 teams yes but I don't make the rules and by the looks of this the best bet would be to get next years fours sorted out by a junior football club close to Belle Vues new track Belle vues new track will have to wait . all the Poles are busy Building West Ham Uniteds new stadium In Albert Square . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 There are certain things worth fighting for and making a fuss about - the Premier League 4TT is not one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Early predictions Group 1 - Edinburgh winners.Runner up Leicester,or if Travis turns up Somerset,if Heffers rides definitely Somerset. Group 2 - Workington winners. Runner up Redcar. Winners - Workington.Runners up Redcar. You say if Hefers rides, but Holder is declared on the BSPA web site and The Rebels web site. The official BSPA rules are the highest averages on the cut off date, which was 1st July, on 1st Julty Hefers average was 6.50 and Holder 4.07. It's a complete farce, unless the rules state that any riders injured on 1st July are not to be counted, but I have not read that anywhere, it's a complete farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You say if Hefers rides, but Holder is declared on the BSPA web site and The Rebels web site. The official BSPA rules are the highest averages on the cut off date, which was 1st July, on 1st Julty Hefers average was 6.50 and Holder 4.07. It's a complete farce, unless the rules state that any riders injured on 1st July are not to be counted, but I have not read that anywhere, it's a complete farce. I take on board what you are saying OT,but have you noticed that no one has given a definite reply,cos no one has a clue...bit sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You say if Hefers rides, but Holder is declared on the BSPA web site and The Rebels web site. The official BSPA rules are the highest averages on the cut off date, With as many exceptions that are deemed to be required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Should Newcastle not qualify over ippo then??....and who will take Taylor Pooles place??....strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You say if Hefers rides, but Holder is declared on the BSPA web site and The Rebels web site. The official BSPA rules are the highest averages on the cut off date, which was 1st July, on 1st Julty Hefers average was 6.50 and Holder 4.07. It's a complete farce, unless the rules state that any riders injured on 1st July are not to be counted, but I have not read that anywhere, it's a complete farce. Is Hefenbrock fit? Really? When did he last ride for Somerset? If they changes the declared line up & he breaks down physically on Friday who will be responsible for THAT farce? Christ, isn't there enough bleating from those supporters whose team's didn't qualify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Should Newcastle not qualify over ippo then??....and who will take Taylor Pooles place??....strange No - because at the CUT OFF DATE Lemon was injured & Poole wasn't. That's the point of a CUT OFF DATE - or would you prefer the organisers to wait until the meetings are completed the night before the PL Fours in case someone else gets injured? Maybe ALL the team should attend & when everyone is in the pits & warmed up only THEN decide the top 8 qualifiers: that would eliminate late injuries, breakdowns en route & calamatous machinery failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes1966 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 What, a half finished stadium that's got better facilities than vast majority of other PL tracks??? V Well its to be hoped they improve the toilet facilities before the 4's. They were appalling 2 weeks ago. Just a couple of portakabins won't be enough for up to 4,000 people. They will need additional places selling food and drink, and if the banking is muddy standing is limited/messy. I think a few PL tracks offer more than this - just about as good as Redcar/Scunthorpe/Workington, but not up to the standard of Sheffield/Somerset/Newport IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Backless no need to get stroppy, the point I was making, was if it's the top four ave in a 1-7 that qualified then how do ippo get in over Newcastle....you have since cleared it up with your indepth knowlege that injured riders although still in a declared 1-7 don't count.some of the criteria which no one else seems to know, for that I thank you. So the inane ramblings, further in your post were a waste of finger tapping really. I forgot it was you who knew all about Jason kings injury and recovery also....a very clever man and I take my hat off to your sir. Edited July 27, 2011 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I would have to beg to differ on some of your comparisons, I would say the Leicester overall facilities are miles better than Redcar and Scunny and whilst Somerset have a super building on first bend there is absolutely nothing else there apart from that save for the rather unsteady feeling structure on back straight that sensibly the home fans seem to avoid:-). I make those points having visited all 3 this season and Redcar twice. ......and I can assure you, these facilities coped pretty well with getting on for 6,000 people on openIng night:-) After an absense of 28 years after former venue Blackbird Road was sold for redevelopment, speedway returned to Leicester at a purpose built 4,500 capacity stadium in Beaumont Park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainlion Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) After an absense of 28 years after former venue Blackbird Road was sold for redevelopment, speedway returned to Leicester at a purpose built 4,500 capacity stadium in Beaumont Park! As we all know transparency regarding attendances is not speedways way I think 6000 is probably stretching it but there were more than the stated capacity and obviously for health and safety reasons it was best to just say it was sold out (nothing to do with ecomonics ) Btw in the programme notes for Cov v Poole the Bees describe themselves as the Manchester United of speedway hope the Leicester promotion come on here before printing ours so we can be the Millwall Edited July 28, 2011 by bornagainlion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Backless no need to get stroppy, the point I was making, was if it's the top four ave in a 1-7 that qualified then how do ippo get in over Newcastle....you have since cleared it up with your indepth knowlege that injured riders although still in a declared 1-7 don't count.some of the criteria which no one else seems to know, for that I thank you. So the inane ramblings, further in your post were a waste of finger tapping really. I forgot it was you who knew all about Jason kings injury and recovery also....a very clever man and I take my hat off to your sir. Not in depth knowledge, just a bit of common sense: unless you're suggesting that the PL Fours should include guests. (Now there's an idea for 2012 to start a mass err... debate on here: "Dear BSPA, A suggestion........" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) As we all know transparency regarding attendances is not speedways way I think 6000 is probably stretching it but there were more than the stated capacity and obviously for health and safety reasons it was best to just say it was sold out (nothing to do with ecomonics ) Btw in the programme notes for Cov v Poole the Bees describe themselves as the Manchester United of speedway hope the Leicester promotion come on here before printing ours so we can be the Millwall Sorry but the football comparisons are lost on me . I am not interested at all in the beautiful game ,and Milwall means about as much to me as Nuneaton Borough hold on Millwall ?dont they have a reputaion for having particularly aggressive supporters ? maybe there is a comparison Edited July 28, 2011 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Not in depth knowledge, just a bit of common sense: unless you're suggesting that the PL Fours should include guests. (Now there's an idea for 2012 to start a mass err... debate on here: "Dear BSPA, A suggestion........" Not suggesting that at all??? Quite good at putting words in others mouths arnt you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainlion Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Sorry but the football comparisons are lost on me . I am not interested at all in the beautiful game ,and Milwall means about as much to me as Nuneaton Borough hold on Millwall ?dont they have a reputaion for having particularly aggressive supporters ? maybe there is a comparison yes they do have a "reputation" but it 's more their famous "No one likes us! We don't Care" chant I was getting at Aggressive Lions fans it took Redcar lads to show some that you can cheer and shout the team on during a heat before that there was some gentle clapped apprecaition from the seated areas at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) yes they do have a "reputation" but it 's more their famous "No one likes us! We don't Care" chant I was getting at Aggressive Lions fans it took Redcar lads to show some that you can cheer and shout the team on during a heat before that there was some gentle clapped apprecaition from the seated areas at the end. No more footy stuff please It's all whoooooooooooooooooooooosh to me Hold on a minute I may see the connection between Man Utd and coventry ? they're millions in debt. not covering their expenses at the turnstiles , but still buying the worlds best players and still claim to be the worlds best team Edited July 28, 2011 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Well its to be hoped they improve the toilet facilities before the 4's. They were appalling 2 weeks ago. Just a couple of portakabins won't be enough for up to 4,000 people. They will need additional places selling food and drink, and if the banking is muddy standing is limited/messy. I think a few PL tracks offer more than this - just about as good as Redcar/Scunthorpe/Workington, but not up to the standard of Sheffield/Somerset/Newport IMO I agree about the muddy banks, it is hoped that these will be improved during the winter. You obviously miscounted the toilet blocks as there are two large blocks behind the temporary stands and one slightly smaller block on turn three. There are plenty of food and drink outlets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 re Cov and Man U, Difference is Man Utd win trophies EVERY year and will still definitely be playing in their current home ground in 2013. LOL! The FA don't make up a set of rules to stop Man Utd winning anything .unlike the Bspa . we may be moving next year ,I heard Sandhu bought a set of plans for a purpose built speedway stadium that never got used . the people who had them drawn up decided to build there stadium with Lego and portakabins Instead . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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