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MEETING ABANDONED DUE TO RAIN

16 HEAT FINAL TO BE RUN AT A DATE TO BE ARRANGED

 

GROUP 1

 

Somerset Rebels : 11

1. Travis Mcgowan 2,2 = 4

2. Cory Gathercole 1,1 = 2

3. Sam Masters R,3 = 3

4. James Holder 1,1 = 2

R. Alex Davies

 

Leicester Lions : 21

1. Kauko Nieminen 3,3 = 6 MAX

2. Magnus Karlsson 3,3 = 6 MAX

3. Ilya Bondarenko 3,1 = 4

4. Jan Graversen 2,3 = 5

R. John Oliver

 

Edinburgh Monarchs : 06

1. Kevin Wolbert 3,1 = 4

2. Craig Cook 0,0 = 0

3. Andrew Tully 0,2 = 2

4. Kalle Katajisto 0,F = 0

R. Kyle Howarth

 

Glasgow Tigers : 10

1. Joe Screen 2,F = 2

2. James Grieves 1,N = 1

3. Theo Pjiper 2,0 = 2

4. Michal Rajkowski 1,N = 1

R. Nick Morris 2,2 = 4

 

GROUP 2

 

Sheffield Tigers : 09

1. Ricky Ashworth 1,Fx = 1

2. Josh Auty R,1 = 1

3. Shane Parker 2,3 = 5

4. Emiliano Sanchez 1,1 = 2

R. Hugh Skidmore

 

Redcar Bears : 10

1. Matej Kus 0,3 = 3

2. Jason Lyons 3,R = 3

3. Aaron Summers 1,0 = 1

4. Gary Havelock 0,N = 0

R. Peter Juul Larsen 3 = 3

 

Workington Comets : 14

1. James Wright 3,1 = 4

2. Tomas Topinka 2,0 = 2

3. Rusty Harrison 2,1 = 3

4. Richard Lawson 2,3 = 5

R. Gary Irving

 

Ipswich Witches : 15

1. Kevin Doolan 3,2 = 5

2. Morten Risager 1,2 = 3

3. Lasse Bjerre 3,2 = 5

4. Jerran Hart 0,2 = 2

R. Jack Hargreaves

 

Heat Results

 

Heat 01: Karlsson, Mcgowan, Rajkowski, Tully 63.94

Group 1 Line Up: Mcgowan, Karlsson, Tully, Rajkowski

Comments: Karlsson flew from the gate for the win. Mcgowan pushed him all the way. Other 2 from gate.

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Heat 02: Lyons, Harrison, Ashworth, Hart 63.47

Group 2 Line Up: Ashworth, Lyons, Harrison, Hart

Comments: Unsatisfactory start all 4 back.

Re-run From the gate, Jason just the better start for the lead.

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Heat 03: Bondarenko, Screen, Gathercole, Katajisto 64.09

Group 1 Line Up: Gathercole, Bondarenko, Katajisto, Screen

Comments: Unsatisfactory start all 4 back.

Re-run Screen best out the traps, Ilya round bend 1 & 2 lap 1 took the lead all the way.

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Heat 04: Doolan, Lawson, Summers, Auty ® 63.91

Group 2 Line Up: Auty, Summers, Lawson, Doolan

Comments: Auty retired backstraight lap 1 when 3rd. After that from the gate!

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Heat 05: Wolbert, Graversen, Grieves, Masters ® 64.22

Group 1 Line Up: Masters, Graversen, Wolbert, Grieves

Comments: Jan passed Masters bend 4 lap 1 up inside, Masters locked up mid bend. Jan passed Grieves backstraight lap 3. Masters pulled up bend 2 lap 4.

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Heat 06: Wright, Parker, Risager, Havelock 64.94

Group 2 Line Up: Parker, Havelock, Wright, Risager

Comments: From the gate, bit spread out that 1.

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Heat 07: Nieminen, Pjiper, Holder, Cook 64.69

Group 1 Line Up: Holder, Nieminen, Cook, Pjiper

Comments: From the gate, Kauko lifted bend 1 lap 1 held on fine for the win all from the gate.

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Heat 08: Bjerre, Topinka, Sanchez, Kus 66.35

Group 2 Line Up: Sanchez, Kus, Topinka, Bjerre

Comments: From the gate but a slow heat!

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Heat 09: Nieminen, Mcgowan, Wolbert, Screen (F) 63.40

Group 1 Line Up: Mcgowan, Nieminen, Wolbert, Screen

Comments: Screen wide bend 1 lap 1 then fell bend 4 lap 1 & pulled up. Kauko pulled away a good lead.

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Heat 10: Kus, Doolan, Wright, Ashworth (Fx) Awarded

Group 2 Line Up: Ashworth, Kus, Wright, Doolan

Comments: Ashworth fell and excluded bend 3 lap 3 while 2nd. Tight 1st and 2nd bend and all 4 close all the way to the fall.

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Heat 11: Karlsson, Morris, Holder, Katajisto (F) 64.96

Group 1 Line Up: Holder, Karlsson, Katajisto, Grieves Morris

Comments: Morris in for Grieves.

Karlsson electric out the gate. Katajisto fell bend 1 up into the pits. Morris bit wide bend 3 lap 1 giving Karlsson easy win.

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Heat 12: Lawson, Risager, Sanchez, Lyons ® 64.69

Group 2 Line Up: Sanchez, Lyons, Lawson, Risager

Comments: Lawson flew round bend 1 and 2 lap 1 to take the win. Lyons retired bend 3 lap 2 while 3rd.

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Heat 13: Masters, Tully, Bondarenko, Pjiper 65.50

Group 1 Line Up: Masters, Bondarenko, Tully, Pjiper

Comments: Ilya tried to go round Masters clipped his back wheel putting him back to 3rd, Pjiper not happy at the back.

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Heat 14: Parker, Bjerre, Harrison, Summers 64.34

Group 2 Line Up: Parker, Summers, Harrison, Bjerre

Comments: Parker the clear winner. Bjerre passed Harrison home straight going into lap 2. Harrison tried hard bends 3 and 4 lap 4 to pass back.

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Heat 15: Graversen, Morris, Gathercole, Cook 65.25

Group 1 Line-up: Gathercole, Graversen, Cook, Rajkowski Morris

Comments: Morris in for Rajkowski.

From the gate, Morris pushed Jan all the way.

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Heat 16: Juul, Hart, Auty, Topinka 65.15

Group 2 Line-up: Auty, Havelock Juul, Topinka, Hart

Comments: Juul in for Havelock. From the gate great res change Juul flew all the way.

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FINAL

 

Leicester Lions: 00

1. Kauko Nieminen

2. Magnus Karlsson

3. Ilya Bondarenko

4. Jan Graversen

R. John Oliver

 

Ipswich Witches: 00

1. Kevin Doolan

2. Morten Risager

3. Lasse Bjerre

4. Jerran Hart

R. Jack Hargreaves

 

Somerset Rebels: 00

1. Travis Mcgowan

2. Cory Gathercole

3. Sam Masters

4. James Holder

R. Alex Davies

 

Workington Comets: 00

1. James Wright

2. Tomas Topinka

3. Rusty Harrison

4. Richard Lawson

R. Gary Irving

 

Heat 01:

Line Up: Kauko Nieminen, Morten Risager, Sam Masters, Richard Lawson

Comments:

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Heat 02:

Line Up: Magnus Karlsson, Lasse Bjerre, James Holder, James Wright

Comments:

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Heat 03:

Line Up: Ilya Bondarenko, Jerran Hart, Travis McGowan, Tomas Topinka

Comments:

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Heat 04:

Line Up: Jan Graversen, Kevin Doolan, Cory Gathercole, Rusty Harrison

Comments:

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Heat 05:

Line Up: Kauko Nieminen, Kevin Doolan, Travis McGowan, James Wright

Comments:

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Heat 06:

Line Up: Jan Graversen, Morten Risager, James Holder, Tomas Topinka

Comments:

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Heat 07:

Line Up: Ilya Bondarenko, Lasse Bjerre, Sam Masters, Rusty Harrison

Comments:

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Heat 08:

Line Up: Magnus Karlsson, Jerran Hart, Cory Gathercole, Richard Lawson

Comments:

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Heat 09:

Line Up: Magnus Karlsson, Kevin Doolan, Travis McGowan, Rusty Harrison

Comments:

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Heat 10:

Line Up: Jan Graversen, Jerran Hart, Cory Gathercole, Richard Lawson

Comments:

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Heat 11:

Line Up: Ilya Bondarenko, Morten Risager, James Holder, Tomas Topinka

Comments:

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Heat 12:

Line Up: Kauko Nieminen, Lasse Bjerre, Sam Masters, James Wright

Comments:

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Comments:

 

Teams confirmed.

Track ok. Shower has halted, the parade just started, as first team came out big black cloud to go over but can see clear sky behind it.

5.17pm - Delay for 10 mins at least

5.39pm - Its just about stopped raining, they've announced going to have another 10-15 min delay for track to dry out a bit.

5.48pm - The rain is back.

6.09pm - Sun coming through now, cloud nearly past. Should be off soon.

7.52pm - Raining hard again...

 

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[RHayes]

Is it that bad ?

 

Yep, so much they've abandoned it. The track from the picture I found on facebook was like a mud bath.

Edited August 7, 2011 by LFC1892

[StevePark]

Can anyone please explain why leicster are allowed to use Peter Karlsson and Kauko Nieminen in the fours when surely they havent ridden enough rides to qualify. Somerset werent allowed to use heffenbrock because apparently he hadnt ridden enough rides to qualilfy even though hes rode 15 matches this season.

 

Firstly - this should be in the Premier Fours thread in the 'Individual, shared etc.' section.

 

Secondly - in that thread, this whole argument has been running for some time now.

[Icicle]

Well, will the 16 heat re-run be at another track ?? If so will "host" team be allowed??

 

Ah Speedway rules...

Edited August 7, 2011 by icicle

[speedibee]

All the Leicester knocking neg ferretts on here will be ABSOLUTELY GUTTED to know that as at 2.45pm Saturday, Beaumont Park has only seen a 10 minute shower today & is now baking in 72degree heat therefore there are NO muddy banks, the supporters areas are baked hard, the track's looking good, the stadium looks great having had the track kerb & kick boards re-painted today by the volunteers, fun fair is being set up with dodgems & other rides for kids & all looks good for tomorrow. :-)

[Hel'n'Back]

Can anyone please explain why leicster are allowed to use Peter Karlsson and Kauko Nieminen in the fours when surely they havent ridden enough rides to qualify. Somerset werent allowed to use heffenbrock because apparently he hadnt ridden enough rides to qualilfy even though hes rode 15 matches this season.

It's called double standards which is the norm with speedway

[MD]

The quicker the BSPA bring back qualifiers the better,cuts out all this we deserve to be there.

 

Don't bother with qualifiers, another waste of a blank fixture and for us another visit of Edinburgh. If they have to have it again next year they should take the top 8 in the league at that point and ask the clubs the week before to nominate their four riders and reserve similar to what they do with the pairs. This rider qualification lark is a nonsense with rules applied to some and not others.

Edited August 7, 2011 by MD

[george.m]

Well, will the 16 heat re-run be at another track ?? If so will "host" team be allowed??

 

Ah Speedway rules...

 

LOL!

[Backless]

Don't bother with qualifiers, another waste of a blank fixture and for us another visit of Edinburgh. If they have to have it again next year they should take the top 8 in the league at that point and ask the clubs the week before to nominate their four riders and reserve similar to what they do with the pairs. This rider qualification lark is a nonsense with rules applied to some and not others.

 

And then the bitching on here centres around "who's in the fours?", "they can't even advertise the event", "how can fans plan ahead?".

 

It just needs a bit of common sense: some sort of rider qualification to weasel out the average fixers is necessary, a cut off date for teams qualification, & the host team are exempt... BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO QUALIFY.

 

The alternative being most of the home crowd stay away & the whole thing goes down the pan.

 

The crowd at Peterborough last year was okay, but nothing exciting, and those who bang on about Peterborough being "the home of the fours" conveniently ignore the fact that at least part of the "great atmosphere" was because the home crowd were there, because it was a PL track for most of those "great" years.

[Nobblytriers]

I can't say that I'm fully up to speed with all of the rules but I was wondering, all of you saying that Leicester shouln't be allowed to have such and such and so and so, riding in their team, what team should we have ridden with? We only have two of original riders left in the team and our new signings are all very new!

 

I'm also not understanding the comment on the Leicester Newport match and the rules not applying to the home team. Sorry to be a little slow but can someone explain please?

Edited August 7, 2011 by nobblytriers

[Backless]

I can't say that I'm fully up to speed with all of the rules but I was wondering, all of you saying that Leicester shouln't be allowed to have such and such and so and so, riding in their team, what team should we have ridden with? We only have two of original riders left in the team and our new signings are all very new!

 

I'm also not understanding the comment on the Leicester Newport match and the rules not applying to the home team. Sorry to be a little slow but can someone explain please?

 

Not a problem: qualifying teams' riders had to be a)fit to ride & have completed a certain number of matches for their club (I don't recall the exact number, because i) i have no need to retain the number and ii) I don't actually care what it is / was ). Leicester, as hosts, didn't qualify & therefore the qualifying number of matches doesn't apply.

 

The anally retentive on here would have preferred that Leicester ran without Karlsson, Nemo etc. or even better hadn't been allowed in the meeting at all - not least of all because it would have started a whole mass debate about "poor crowd" "loss making event" and all the rest. I hope that helps.

[HarryMango]

The final will be 16 heats at Beaumont Park on a Sunday - date to be arranged - ticket stubs from today get £5 discount from entry fee.

[drew2]

Maybe they should have used Hancock, Gollob, Crump and Holder then?

Would have been harsh on McGowan, Masters and Gathercole if that had happened! (Sorry when I saw Holder I thought you meant Jimmy!)

 

For the re-run can the teams be altered or does it have to be the same four? Dak and Christian maybe be available for Somerset?

 

If the re-run Final is well supported then it might show the BSPA that qualifiers are the way to go with a similar format again (16ht, 4man teams).

[Leicester Lion]

The final will be 16 heats at Beaumont Park on a Sunday - date to be arranged - ticket stubs from today get £5 discount from entry fee.

That's incredibly generous. God bless the BSPA.

[Diceyccfc1966]

I hope Leicester win this because the BSPA have done their best to help them.

1.auto qualification 2.home advantage 3. Allow riders to enter after the qualification . This is not jibe at Leicester but the authorities.

[justathought]

I'm afraid I didn't enjoy that one bit.

 

Leicester really do need to get the track sorted, even with the best imagination in the world, I think you must agree a racetrack it ain't.

[speedibee]

I hope Leicester win this because the BSPA have done their best to help them.

1.auto qualification 2.home advantage 3. Allow riders to enter after the qualification . This is not jibe at Leicester but the authorities.

I would'nt be too shocked to see the BSpa Give it to them . It will be difficult to find a suitable date for all 4 teams to race again and I would imagine the turn out to be rather poor after today . so by Virtue of Leicester having the highest qualifying score ,that would be criteria enough to award them overall winners , This is the BSPA we are talking about after all .

[Tony The Tiger]

Well that was my 2nd visit to Leicester and I doubt very much whether I'll go there ever again.

 

The shape of the track seems great but the racing there is dire, and that's being very polite! 2 meetings and I think I've seen 5 passes in 31 heats of speedway, and in total I think there was 3 passes all day today, 2 of them being in one race.

 

Something needs to be done about the track or I fear others like me would rather watch the updates than waste money going to watch that garbage.

 

And as for £20 for admission...If I knew in advance that the 'racing' was going to be like that, I'd begrudgingly pay a tenth of the admission money.

 

Ok, I'm bound to get the old "what do you expect, it's rained" comment, but quite frankly, that was a blessing in disguise as I didn't have to watch another round of gate and go speedway...thats if you can call it speedway.

 

Rant over...for now!

Edited August 7, 2011 by Tony The Tiger

[arnieg]

I would'nt be too shocked to see the BSpa Give it to them . It will be difficult to find a suitable date for all 4 teams to race again and I would imagine the turn out to be rather poor after today . so by Virtue of Leicester having the highest qualifying score ,that would be criteria enough to award them overall winners , This is the BSPA we are talking about after all .

Of course it will be re-run - just like last year's NL Fours (maybe they could award that to Leicester too )

[StevePark]

The final will be 16 heats at Beaumont Park on a Sunday - date to be arranged - ticket stubs from today get £5 discount from entry fee.

 

Will Newcastle and Glasgow be able to run on that Sunday? Or will it be another date lost for them?