greyhoundp Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Very rarely do we disagree 21st, YES, the main issue is Jason Garrity, and according to OFFICIAL figures he will start the season at reserve http://www.speedwaygb.co/nlgreensheets10.html on an average of 4.94, that is one heck of an advantage for Belle Vue to begin the season with, Byron many of OUR supporters wanted him to be in the Heathens Team, and he will be there No1 to begin the season with, i would expect normal improvement from Kyle Howarth which should push him up to around the 8 point mark, Mckinna will be around the upper sixes, lower sevens with the odd double figure score, the gamble they have taken is with Mason and Richardson who whatever else will average around 5 points each, no pressure will be on young Widman whatsoever, so i will stay with my earlier assesment of making BV my early season pacesetters, but this is shaping up to be a season to look forward to in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.a Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Very rarely do we disagree 21st, YES, the main issue is Jason Garrity, and according to OFFICIAL figures he will start the season at reserve http://www.speedwaygb.co/nlgreensheets10.html on an average of 4.94, that is one heck of an advantage for Belle Vue to begin the season with, Byron many of OUR supporters wanted him to be in the Heathens Team, and he will be there No1 to begin the season with, i would expect normal improvement from Kyle Howarth which should push him up to around the 8 point mark, Mckinna will be around the upper sixes, lower sevens with the odd double figure score, the gamble they have taken is with Mason and Richardson who whatever else will average around 5 points each, no pressure will be on young Widman whatsoever, so i will stay with my earlier assesment of making BV my early season pacesetters, but this is shaping up to be a season to look forward to in the NL. Bspa website has derek Richardson on a 3 pt average !!! surely it should be scott richardson on a 5.16 ave ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Bspa website has derek Richardson on a 3 pt average !!! surely it should be scott richardson on a 5.16 ave ? FAIL! How difficult is it to get a name right? If your the BSPA its mission impossible...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) FAIL! How difficult is it to get a name right? If your the BSPA its mission impossible...... They may put it right tomorrow. Today they have put right "Tim Webster" in the Stoke line-up. Yesterday it said "Mark Webster" They have Nick Simmons correctly listed for IOW but against his name they have Mark Simmonds' average. Edited February 17, 2011 by John Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 They may put it right tomorrow. Today they have put right "Tim Webster" in the Stoke line-up. Yesterday it said "Mark Webster" They have Nick Simmons correctly listed for IOW but against his name they have Mark Simmonds' average. seriously isn't that difficult. Well it shouldn't be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Colts team announced tonight at Belle Vue : Jason Garrity Kyle Howarth Adam Mckinna Karl Mason Chris Widman Scott Richardson Byron Becker That looks to be a very good strong team!....Up there to challange for honours I think.......special best wishes and lots of good luck to Byron and Scott.....stay safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Ahhh now that puts a different perspective on it. When I scanned over the teams on the BSPA website before posting it hadn't been changed. So I was seeing two 3-pointers at reserve and Garrity starting in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 They may put it right tomorrow. Today they have put right "Tim Webster" in the Stoke line-up. Yesterday it said "Mark Webster" They have Nick Simmons correctly listed for IOW but against his name they have Mark Simmonds' average. I think I must have been watching the darts when I updated the Stoke signing of Tim/ Mark Webster. I have now also corrected Nick Simmons average. The PDF we were sent is hard to read with my tired ageing eyes - well that's my excuse anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think I must have been watching the darts when I updated the Stoke signing of Tim/ Mark Webster. I have now also corrected Nick Simmons average. The PDF we were sent is hard to read with my tired ageing eyes - well that's my excuse anyway. You sure it wasn't channel 914 which distracted you Pove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes, Jason at reserve is the "Ace" in the Pack so to speak, and i was of the opinion whichever Team had Jason at reserve for the begining of the season would have one heck of an advantage at seasons start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaylover18 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Best of luck to Karl Mason such a great bloke and very approachable, shakes my hand everytime I see him! Wishing him an injury free season as he has had a few fair over the last few seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yes, Jason at reserve is the "Ace" in the Pack so to speak, and i was of the opinion whichever Team had Jason at reserve for the begining of the season would have one heck of an advantage at seasons start. It's an advantage, no doubt about it. How much of an advantage will only really become clear when the fixtures are released so we can see when and where the Colts are racing, and after the first few meetings so we can see what sort of form the rest start in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 That's because I've only just added it. They needed typing up really as they were sent to us as a scanned pdf, but I've displayed it as a jpg to give you guys something to work from for now. And from a 1970s typewriter by the look of it! Tell me all the official National League averages are not being worked out by hand somewhere Anyway, I like the look of the Belle Vue team, but I don't think its a title winner. No outright number one, I think Bekker will usually be beaten by the likes of Herne, Roynon, Lambert, etc. However, it's a strong balanced top three. Middle order looks like a weakness to me, but then Garrity clearly better than his reserve starting average - if he stays injury-free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackside Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Looking back at last season Bekker beat all the #1's in the league so i reckon that if he keeps his form up to his injury last season he should be up there. Looking for a good season for Scotty Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Anyway, I like the look of the Belle Vue team, but I don't think its a title winner. No outright number one, I think Bekker will usually be beaten by the likes of Herne, Roynon, Lambert, etc. However, it's a strong balanced top three. Middle order looks like a weakness to me, but then Garrity clearly better than his reserve starting average - if he stays injury-free. Garrity will get 9+ this year, so he'll be the number 1 they need. It means that all season long they'll have an amazing reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 And in the recent history of the NL, 2010 Title winners Buxton had Jason Garrity,sometimes Morris at reserve, 2009 Title winners Bournemouth Had Jerran Hart at reserve, 2011 Title winners ?? who have named there reserves so far ?? Newport,Gough and Andrews both 3 pointers,S&S Richie Worrall and Nielsen 3 pointers,Hackney have Freemantle and Hazelden,Kings Lynn have Stokes and Blackbird, again both 3 pointers, Belle Vue Widman and Garrity, now whilst i cannot predict who will win the League as yet, from the Teams who have named there full Squad Belle Vue have 1 reserve who stands out above the rest, and whilst i dont agree with SCB that Garrity will achieve 9+ in 2011, he has the ability to beat anyone in this League, Herne,Roynon,Kurtz,Lambert etc,etc probably he has already beat them at some stage, can we say the same of other reserves in the NL ?? i very much doubt that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Garrity will get 9+ this year, so he'll be the number 1 they need. It means that all season long they'll have an amazing reserve. No chance. He'll average an exclusion in every four rides and there's no way he'll score maximum points from the three in every four rides. Jokes aside, it would be unprecedented for a rider to go from 5-point reserve to 9+ number 1 the following season (which would put him in the Simon Lambert bracket). I just can't see that level of improvement. He has the beating of anyone in a one-off race, but you're talking about banging in big double-figure scores home and away week after week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 No chance. He'll average an exclusion in every four rides and there's no way he'll score maximum points from the three in every four rides. Jokes aside, it would be unprecedented for a rider to go from 5-point reserve to 9+ number 1 the following season (which would put him in the Simon Lambert bracket). I just can't see that level of improvement. He has the beating of anyone in a one-off race, but you're talking about banging in big double-figure scores home and away week after week. At NL level? It's not really that odd. You tend to find you get the odd rider does it from time to time. Todd Kurtz got 9 from nowhere. A few years back Nicki Glanz went from 4 with Newport to best part of 9 with Plymouth. While I'd agree it close to impossible in the EL, not very little in the PL, every now and again someone at NL level does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackside Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Probally one of the best ( and wildest ) reserves in this league with Garrity . Should ??? he improve his average and with the likes of Scotty and Karl all on around the same average could still end up with a very big scoring reserve.Fancy Howarth Bekker and Mckinna to hold their positions in the main body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 No chance. He'll average an exclusion in every four rides and there's no way he'll score maximum points from the three in every four rides. Jokes aside, it would be unprecedented for a rider to go from 5-point reserve to 9+ number 1 the following season (which would put him in the Simon Lambert bracket). I just can't see that level of improvement. He has the beating of anyone in a one-off race, but you're talking about banging in big double-figure scores home and away week after week. Craig Cook went from an unknown 3 pointer to a 9+ number 1 in the same season, winning the NLRC along the way in 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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