westhamboy66 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Are you really going to stand on the Rye terraces shouting "Come on you Hawks"!!! You remember the "Ronnie" days Shads back in the late 80's when Hackney were our biggest rivals like Kings Lynn have been during the last 5 years. I couldnt stand them (particularly Andy Galvin ). Theres no way Im going to start supporting them now..........and as for buying Hawks clothing, programme board etc - Im ashamed of you! Sorry but can only ever support Rye House. May watch the odd one out of interest but wont be attending many. Shame. Agree with the sentiments Fiala.I wish them well but wouldn't pay to watch them They have been the enemy since I started watching speedway and as such will remain so. I do hope that they are not involved in a PL/NL double header thus increasing the price as I would be reluctant to part with the extra cash for such meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) You're confusing the Kestrels and the Hawks. The Rockets never rode against the Hawks other than inter-league challenges. Len Silver ran the Hawks and the Rockets. Terry Rusell and Dave Pavitt ran the Kestrels after Len had pulled out. I would imagine there are a few Hawks fans who now class Rye as their team but your first love never dies. Hawks forever! Kestrels just filled the void. Hackney is Hackney no matter what spin you put on to the nickname Hated at Rye simple Edited January 28, 2011 by westhamboy66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hackney is Hackney no matter what spin you put on to the nickname Hated at Rye simple This is a Rye House / Lakeside team for gods sake the riders will be in the main Rye or Lakeside assets ,the name used to describe this team is of minimal importance.I really dont get this HATE bit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Agree with the sentiments Fiala.I wish them well but wouldn't pay to watch them They have been the enemy since I started watching speedway and as such will remain so. I do hope that they are not involved in a PL/NL double header thus increasing the price as I would be reluctant to part with the extra cash for such meetings. i agree. when i first heard the news i thought that's ten less meetings i will be doing at rye this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 This is a Rye House / Lakeside team for gods sake the riders will be in the main Rye or Lakeside assets ,the name used to describe this team is of minimal importance.I really dont get this HATE bit.... I don't either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 This is a Rye House / Lakeside team for gods sake the riders will be in the main Rye or Lakeside assets ,the name used to describe this team is of minimal importance.I really dont get this HATE bit.... it's not an anti hackney thing for me. i'd feel the same way if a rayleigh team was riding at rye or west ham at arena. i'm just not a fan of nomadic teams riding in proper leagues. i guess i'm just old fashioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Lets hope that this Hackney project does well and end up returning to their own stamping ground when after the Olympics have finished! dont think theres much chance of that .. the olympics dosen't have any form of motorised sport involved and wouldnt have a motorsports licence anywhere on the site ... when the olympics goes the area wouldn't get a motorsports license being the olympic village is on the site and no otehr motorised sports are there, and the village will be used for housing when the competitors leave . far too built up an area and the nimbys will object as soon as a wheel is turned sadly. may get the one off "london GP" each year added to the calender or may even be the "english GP" a chance to add another round to the worlds is far more possible than a team returning to the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 dont think theres much chance of that .. the olympics dosen't have any form of motorised sport involved and wouldnt have a motorsports licence anywhere on the site ... when the olympics goes the area wouldn't get a motorsports license being the olympic village is on the site and no otehr motorised sports are there, and the village will be used for housing when the competitors leave . far too built up an area and the nimbys will object as soon as a wheel is turned sadly. may get the one off "london GP" each year added to the calender or may even be the "english GP" a chance to add another round to the worlds is far more possible than a team returning to the area. Lord Bryn thinks otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Lord Bryn thinks otherwise... Do I? Whether or not speedway does find a place somewhere on the site remains to be seen post-Olympics but I do know there are parties keen to try and persuade the relevant authorities that it should be so. I wish them well in their efforts! P.S. I've received nothing from Bucky Palace so would be interested to learn where you heard of me being made a Lord! What expenses am I entitled to claim? Edited January 28, 2011 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 dont think theres much chance of that .. the olympics dosen't have any form of motorised sport involved and wouldnt have a motorsports licence anywhere on the site ... when the olympics goes the area wouldn't get a motorsports license being the olympic village is on the site and no otehr motorised sports are there, and the village will be used for housing when the competitors leave . far too built up an area and the nimbys will object as soon as a wheel is turned sadly. may get the one off "london GP" each year added to the calender or may even be the "english GP" a chance to add another round to the worlds is far more possible than a team returning to the area. I have to agree with all that Sean and i dont think that was a major consideration in the forming of this joint venture.More likely financial,with less meetings for Rye to have to fit in, and more for Lakeside to fill in weeks, and give more continuity to their programme..Plus both outfits are looking to bring on British youngsters to ocupy team berths at both tracks And as such both promotions are to be commended for their forward looking plans....It has to be hoped they will get the support they deserve..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Never gonna happen. Why not? Seriously? Not, I would think, at the athletics stadium BUT that is not the only option on the Olympic games site is it? Do I? Whether or not speedway does find a place somewhere on the site remains to be seen post-Olympics but I do know there are parties keen to try and persuade the relevant authorities that it should be so. I wish them well in their efforts! P.S. I've received nothing from Bucky Palace so would be interested to learn where you heard of me being made a Lord! What expenses am I entitled to claim? By the looks of it yes! There would be no greater coup for Speedway than getting a track put in on the Olympic site and whilst there may well be interested parties my opinion is that it won't happen. As for expenses, I reckon you get enough freebies as it is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have to agree with all that Sean and i dont think that was a major consideration in the forming of this joint venture.More likely financial,with less meetings for Rye to have to fit in, and more for Lakeside to fill in weeks, and give more continuity to their programme..Plus both outfits are looking to bring on British youngsters to ocupy team berths at both tracks And as such both promotions are to be commended for their forward looking plans....It has to be hoped they will get the support they deserve..? totally agree .... bringing on youngsters is the main aim here and using your own assets is the answer ... but thinking accross the fold here .. lakeside could easily have reverted back and used arena essex as the nat lge team if thats what they wanted .. and as said elsewhere the cobras haven't officially anywhere said they are not running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 totally agree .... bringing on youngsters is the main aim here and using your own assets is the answer ... but thinking accross the fold here .. lakeside could easily have reverted back and used arena essex as the nat lge team if thats what they wanted .. and as said elsewhere the cobras haven't officially anywhere said they are not running. I can assure you the COBRAS are not running thats official. They are now the Hawks representing Rye and Lakeside... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian De Boise Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 It's a shame that one or two Rye House fans won't support a team that will be made up of the same riders they would have supported if they'd remained as the Cobras. Nonetheless there will be a few Hackney fans who probably wouldn't have gone to many Rye House NL matches who now will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Rebel Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 rye rode against hackney at hoddesdon in 1977 in the inter league cup. the hawks nicked the win 39-38! Blimey! Either you have an exceptional memory or a well organised archive. I can't even find the programme for the one Sheffield meeting I went to last year. I do have a vague memory of that competition but only after reading your post. I must admit I am surprised by the amount of Hackney hatred shown by some posters. I supported the Hawks from 1963 and the Rockets from 1974 and I knew many supporters at Hackney who supported Rye House as well. I know the KESTRELS gave the Rockets a bit of battering in the late eighties but that's in the past I find it bizzare that some supporters won't support the the riders who represented the Cobras last year just because this year they'll be called the Hawks!!?? Baffling! It's not really a Hackney team it's just a name. And beforeanyone threatens to beat me to a pulp for shouting for the Hawks AND the Rockets. I won't be attending any meetings at Rye next year as I am now exiled in the midlands, Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyy Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hackney is Hackney no matter what spin you put on to the nickname Hated at Rye simple HATE - this is speedway, perhaps you should keep such nonsense to football If you want HATE - Your Irons and my Lions, and we dont want that in speedway me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Are you really going to stand on the Rye terraces shouting "Come on you Hawks"!!! You remember the "Ronnie" days Shads back in the late 80's when Hackney were our biggest rivals like Kings Lynn have been during the last 5 years. I couldnt stand them (particularly Andy Galvin ). Theres no way Im going to start supporting them now..........and as for buying Hawks clothing, programme board etc - Im ashamed of you! Sorry but can only ever support Rye House. May watch the odd one out of interest but wont be attending many. Shame. Definitely WON'T be purchasing any Hawks memorabilia. It was just a general inquiry ... Although I was born less than a couple of miles from Hackney Stadium I only went there for less than half a dozen meetings and only one of those didn't involve the Rockets ... Hackney were the side I most wanted us to beat back in the 80's/90's. I can't recall many instances when we did, but I DO remember them knocking 60+ past us one Sunday afternoon at Hoddesdon while sitting with a couple of Hackney supporting friends ... A VERY painful afternoon Edited January 28, 2011 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Definitely WON'T be purchasing any Hawks memorabilia. Fair enough Shadders and can we therefore assume someone bought you a pack of Rockets boxer shorts for Xmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Fair enough Shadders and can we therefore assume someone bought you a pack of Rockets boxer shorts for Xmas? I've Rocket IN my boxer shorts ... will that do? Edited January 28, 2011 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I never thought i'd see the day when Shadders and Bryn were flirting on the internet. I was wrong, as is this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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