Ray Stadia Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 To answer your questions the court case is about noise. I just don't understand how it can be taken seriously or hope to succeed in the circumstances but that's looking at it logically, though, and the courts don't see it that way. The grounds stated for refusal are financial and the possibility that the stadium might not be available for speedway. Planning permission restricts the use of the stadium as far as I am aware. I am sorry for the Mildenhall fans, but it does sound a muddle. I suppose the real fact is, the fan base has reduced over the years and has made it difficult for any Promoter to meet costs, noise problems aside, which may or may not be a red herring. I am not sure whether Mildenhall has ever recovered from the 'Klatt days', to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just down the road Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) Not quite right, Ray. The reason this person has not tried to stop the noise from the airbase is simply because they can't. You can bet your life that if they could they would have done. What you have to understand in this is precisely where West Row stadium is - its literally in the middle of nowhere, with less than 20 houses within noisy earshot. Given that the end of the runway is right opposite the track, its difficult to imagine a more appropriate position for a place where stocks, Moto X & speedway take place. Its true to suggest there is noise late at night and during weekends. What you have to remember is that planning permission has been granted by the local authority and Dave Coventry has complied with many restrictions and recommendations that they have made. Clearly, they think that the circumstances are OK. What you can't get past is that this person moved in in the full knowledge that the stadium and the Moto X track where nearby. As I have said before, you don't move into a lighthouse if you don't like the sea, and their unjustifiable selfishness threatens the enjoyment that hundreds get from the speedway and thousands get from the stocks. 20 houses ?!! Oh, you mean the 20 houses you pass coming down Cooks Drove (including the very properties Water's and Bastick live in/own/rent). What about the Marina ? - Just because you don't pass them on your drive in Halifaxtiger, doesn't mean that there are not a LOT more houses in the vicinity. Also, depending on the prevailing wind, these motorsport venues can be heard MILES away and the motocross circuit has been the subject of on-going noise issues with Forest Heath District Council for YEARS. This whole matter runs a lot deeper with FHDC than you might think. What you have to remember is that when Terry Waters was on the council planning committee these issues were always smoothed over - they had to be or he would lose the £80k per year rent from Chris Bastick on the motocross circuit plus the rent from the Stadium. Not any more. James Waters might have thought he could do the same when he replaced his disgraced father on the planning committee - but that has not happened. The members are EXTREMELY cautious of siding with James Waters now because of the whole prior planning corruption issue with his father Terry. The Planning corruption issue that saw Terry Waters so publicly and disgracefully removed from office and barred from being a councillor 2 years ago. James Waters carries no weight on the planning commitee now whatsoever and this is why matters have now gone so far with the courts and why such 'alternative measures' have been taken against anyone who DARE complain. Remember, Terry Waters had no problem whatsover with the Standards Board in dragging down other councillors who had previously sided with him - obviously lessons have now been learned and the same mistakes won't be made again by councillors wanting to keep their office (sorry pension). If the Stadium and motocross circuit close, Waters stands to lose not only the revenue from these 2 venues but will also be liable for the complainants £500k+ damages and also both sides Barrister's legal costs as well. This collectively could well run into Millions. The Coventry family will walk from their part-investment and Waters will be left with a lovely loss making dog track (with no more BGRB grants either).. Edited January 30, 2011 by Just down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just down the road Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I know this has been said a hundred times but if I bought a house next to a pub, then I would/should have to expect some noise at closing time, perhaps a bit of fowl language?? tough luck the pub was there when i purchased my property?? Or I move back to Mildenhall and decide the planes are a bit noisy?? again the base hasnt moved so tough luck on me... IF a new application goes in to build a pub or another runway, then I have good reason to complain and voice my objection, but not if it was clearly there when I moved in, the blame would solely lie with me and I should have looked at the area more before purchasing my home.... C'mon Damon, theres a bit of a difference between buying a house next to the Queens Arms than having tannoys blasting out on a NON-RACE DAY. I'm sure you would be the first to complain if tannoy systems were set up either end of Queensway and then blasted abuse to each other while you were trying to get your kids to sleep.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypilgrim Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I am gutted not to be waving the chequered flag at Mildenhall this season. All the riders I have spoken to say they love the track and it is a shame there wil be no racing there. The BSPA need to seriously think about what they are doing to the sport we love. Where to go now for my speedway fix. All hope is not yet lost. Quoted from the Scunthorpe Forum tonight, Rob Godfrey says: "I have read the BSF and i was at that meeting and all i can tell you all the speculation from people who think they know is totally : httrubbish and the vote split is inaccurate.We as a league have not given up on mildenhall and all i can tell you it is not a lost cause yet and it has nothing at all to do with fixture congestion.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I have posted this piece of information, which is a fact, on this forum before, so will do so again, in respect of the noise issue/motorsports. When ANY prospective home buyer approaches ANY UK, Estate Agency about purchasing a home, the Estate Agency MUST, by law, disclose any problem area's, including any potential noise issues from places like Motor sport venues/stadia. There was a situation at Ipswich, when a new housing estate was built off of the Foxhall road, approximately 500 to 600 metres as the crow flies, from Foxhall Stadium. Potential home buyers from that estate were informed about the stadium, its race night, times it ran etc. BUT, and here is the real laugh... the Estate Agent told the prospective home buyers, that the stadium would be closed within 2 years, that was some 10 to 12 years ago now. Up until the 'closure' of the stadium part, the Agent had complied with the law, whether anyone took legal action after moving in and finding that the stadium would not, or has not closed, I have no idea, but the Agent most certainly told a lie on the closure part. The person taking the noise pollution action against Mildenhall stadium HAD to have been told about the stadium etc, so as others have said...WHY MOVE INTO THAT PROPERTY for heavens sake. Likewise this Marina mentioned, was that there before or after the stadium was built? If it was after, then they had to have been told too, so I am sorry, its down to said property buyers, if they chose to move to a place knowing that there would be noise from motorsports then they did so knowing full well that they would not get their quiet peaceful Sunday afternoons or whatever well in advance of handing over their money for that property. They had the choice....!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just down the road Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) I have posted this piece of information, which is a fact, on this forum before, so will do so again, in respect of the noise issue/motorsports. When ANY prospective home buyer approaches ANY UK, Estate Agency about purchasing a home, the Estate Agency MUST, by law, disclose any problem area's, including any potential noise issues from places like Motor sport venues/stadia. There was a situation at Ipswich, when a new housing estate was built off of the Foxhall road, approximately 500 to 600 metres as the crow flies, from Foxhall Stadium. Potential home buyers from that estate were informed about the stadium, its race night, times it ran etc. BUT, and here is the real laugh... the Estate Agent told the prospective home buyers, that the stadium would be closed within 2 years, that was some 10 to 12 years ago now. Up until the 'closure' of the stadium part, the Agent had complied with the law, whether anyone took legal action after moving in and finding that the stadium would not, or has not closed, I have no idea, but the Agent most certainly told a lie on the closure part. The person taking the noise pollution action against Mildenhall stadium HAD to have been told about the stadium etc, so as others have said...WHY MOVE INTO THAT PROPERTY for heavens sake. Likewise this Marina mentioned, was that there before or after the stadium was built? If it was after, then they had to have been told too, so I am sorry, its down to said property buyers, if they chose to move to a place knowing that there would be noise from motorsports then they did so knowing full well that they would not get their quiet peaceful Sunday afternoons or whatever well in advance of handing over their money for that property. They had the choice....!! When the complainants in question moved in they made a complaint to FHDC (which they were entitled to do). FHDC upheld this complaint and noise counter-measures were put into place which included additional acoustic bunding being placed around the motocross and hay bales. The Stadium increased its noise bund and also installed some 'acoustic fencing'. Chris Bastick (the motocross owner) offered to buy their house from them (which obviously then became an admission of liability). The complainants declined his offer price. Local newspapers report that they then had their vehicles smashed to pieces with a tele-porter one night. On another occasion they were run off the road by a large 4x4. Another occasion had their house completely flooded by a water irrigation system being used by an un-named local potato farmer. Another occasion had the same un-named local farmer ALLEGEDLY threatening to beat the complainant up (if you want the farmers name, please read the front page of this weeks Bury Free Press). Another occasion the complainant saw their newly purchased property completely surrounded on the boundary by hay bales - plunging the house into darkness. Another occasion finally saw the house fire-bombed. They then moved out and commenced legal proceedings against the following for harrassment and damages - TERENCE WATERS (motoland UK's landlord) ANTHONY MORLEY (Motoland UK's land owner and Terry Waters' landlord)- Anthony Morley who incidentally is a very frail and elderly gentleman in his 90's who should never have been dragged into this mess. JAMES WATERS (Stadium owner) DAVID COVENTRY (RDC promotions Stock car promoter) CLIFFORD BASTICK (Motoland UK) Forest Heath District Council are preparing a seperate case. Plus, there are other local individuals who (subject to the outcome of this particular case) will be filing similar claims. Edited January 31, 2011 by Just down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 When the complainants in question moved in they made a complaint to FHDC (which they were entitled to do). FHDC upheld this complaint and noise counter-measures were put into place which included additional acoustic bunding being placed around the motocross and hay bales. The Stadium increased its noise bund and also installed some 'acoustic fencing'. Chris Bastick (the motocross owner) offered to buy their house from them (which obviously then became an admission of liability). The complainants declined his offer price. Local newspaper reports that they then had their vehicles smashed to pieces with a tele-porter one night. On another occasion they were run off the road by a large 4x4. Another occasion had their house completely flooded by a water irrigation system being used by an un-named local potato farmer. Another occasion had the same un-named local farmer ALLEGEDLY threatening to beat the complainant up (if you want the farmers name, please read the front page of this weeks Bury Free Press). Another occasion the complainant saw their newly purchased property completely surrounded on the boundary by hay bales - plunging the house into darkness. Another occasion finally saw the house fire-bombed. They then moved out and commenced legal proceedings against the following for harrassment and damages - TERENCE WATERS (motoland UK's landlord) ANTHONY MORLEY (Motoland UK's land owner and Terry Waters' landlord) who incidentally is a very elderly gentleman in his 90's who should never have been dragged into this mess. JAMES WATERS (Stadium owner) DAVID COVENTRY (RDC promotions Stock car promoter) CLIFFORD BASTICK (Motoland UK) Forest Heath District Council are filing a seperate case against the Stadia /motocross owners and it's tenants. Plus, there are other local individuals who (subject to the outcome of this particular case) will be filing similar claims. I have no idea why you've aimed that lot in my direction. I merely stated the law regarding the disclosure of any noise problems by any UK Estate Agency to any prospective home buyer AND asked why anyone, not wanting any noise, would go ahead and buy a property knowing well in advance that there was a noise issue. I do not, nor ever have, condoned threats of violence, or criminal behaviour of any sort. Neither can I read the Bury Free press for information(unless there is a link to it online), as I currently reside in Northern Ireland, although I was the track curator at Mildenhall during the Tony Mole/Graham Drury era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just down the road Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I have no idea why you've aimed that lot in my direction. I merely stated the law regarding the disclosure of any noise problems by any UK Estate Agency to any prospective home buyer AND asked why anyone, not wanting any noise, would go ahead and buy a property knowing well in advance that there was a noise issue. I do not, nor ever have, condoned threats of violence, or criminal behaviour of any sort. Neither can I read the Bury Free press for information(unless there is a link to it online), as I currently reside in Northern Ireland, although I was the track curator at Mildenhall during the Tony Mole/Graham Drury era. With respect tomcat, I am sure they were made aware of the Stadium and it's activities. The fireworks and daily 'battle of the tannoys' inititated a complaint to the stadium / motocross which went unheeded, leading to a direct complaint to FHDC who then set up noise measuring equipment - which obviously brought the whole lot under the spotlight. Just posting the facts here as they currently are to date.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 In what way were Mildenhall a threat??? Sadly no matter how much passion you have,its a stable promotion thats needed to stop Mildenhall looming from one problem to the next Does not matter how unstable Steve Ribbons may have appeared , the way both him and Kevin Jolly were treated is nothing short of Discusting, If the Bspa were so Concerned about the stability of their Promotional aspirations they should have asked for a very Large Bond , Instead of trying to fleece Steve Ribbons Of £5,000 for joining the league and another £5,000 for Promoting rights to line their pockets with , they could have asked for a £13,500 bond. and then if the club folded no-one would be left out of pocket , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 All hope is not yet lost. Quoted from the Scunthorpe Forum tonight, Rob Godfrey says: "I have read the BSF and i was at that meeting and all i can tell you all the speculation from people who think they know is totally : httrubbish and the vote split is inaccurate.We as a league have not given up on mildenhall and all i can tell you it is not a lost cause yet and it has nothing at all to do with fixture congestion.". This is an interesting quote. First point - the "speculation" that is out there on the internet is that the vote was 4 against - 3 for. If Mr Godfrey says this is wrong then the vote must have gone even more against Mildenhall which makes the potential to come back worse not better surely. Second point - Its nice to hear that the league have not given up on Mildenhall. One polite suggestion to the BSPA is that if another promoter or promotional team does come forward I hope the communication is clearer than it appears to have been this time round, and that does not only relate to the potential Ribbons/Jolly promotion. Nikko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3065 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) With respect tomcat, I am sure they were made aware of the Stadium and it's activities. The fireworks and daily 'battle of the tannoys' inititated a complaint to the stadium / motocross which went unheeded, leading to a direct complaint to FHDC who then set up noise measuring equipment - which obviously brought the whole lot under the spotlight. Just posting the facts here as they currently are to date.. Simple question to you, since you seem to know plenty about the complainant's reasons for taking the matter to FHDC. Why on earth move in to a property within the vicinity of not only a motor-sports stadium/Moto-X track, but also a USAF airbase?! For a single complainant to be seemingly able to throw the future of a venue which has staged motor-sports for the best part of 40 years is extremely unjust to say the absolute least. Edited January 31, 2011 by neil3065 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 When the complainants in question moved in they made a complaint to FHDC (which they were entitled to do). FHDC upheld this complaint and noise counter-measures were put into place which included additional acoustic bunding being placed around the motocross and hay bales. The Stadium increased its noise bund and also installed some 'acoustic fencing'. Chris Bastick (the motocross owner) offered to buy their house from them (which obviously then became an admission of liability). The complainants declined his offer price. Local newspapers report that they then had their vehicles smashed to pieces with a tele-porter one night. On another occasion they were run off the road by a large 4x4. Another occasion had their house completely flooded by a water irrigation system being used by an un-named local potato farmer. Another occasion had the same un-named local farmer ALLEGEDLY threatening to beat the complainant up (if you want the farmers name, please read the front page of this weeks Bury Free Press). Another occasion the complainant saw their newly purchased property completely surrounded on the boundary by hay bales - plunging the house into darkness. Another occasion finally saw the house fire-bombed. They then moved out and commenced legal proceedings against the following for harrassment and damages - TERENCE WATERS (motoland UK's landlord) ANTHONY MORLEY (Motoland UK's land owner and Terry Waters' landlord)- Anthony Morley who incidentally is a very frail and elderly gentleman in his 90's who should never have been dragged into this mess. JAMES WATERS (Stadium owner) DAVID COVENTRY (RDC promotions Stock car promoter) CLIFFORD BASTICK (Motoland UK) Forest Heath District Council are preparing a seperate case. Plus, there are other local individuals who (subject to the outcome of this particular case) will be filing similar claims. I'll try and answer both of your posts in one. What Terry Waters, his son, Dave Coventry, or any other individual stands to lose isn't the issue where I am concerned. Its what the thousands that watch the stocks and the hundreds that watch the speedway will lose which is more the point. You will note that I said 'noisy earshot'. That means a serious disturbance, not some background noise that might be expected from any such amenity and lets not forget that the stadium is at the end of the air force runway - when a plane goes over, you can't hear the speedway bikes. If this person (or anyone else)moved in after the stadium was built (ie mid 1970's) they knew it was there. Consequently, they knew about the noise before moving in. If they moved in later, then they would have known about the stock cars and Moto X as well. Until you can provide a cogent and reasonable response as to why they moved in the full knowledge of the existence of the stadium and its uses, your argument will not convince anyone on this forum (or, I suspect, any other reasonable person). Lets not forget that the stadium is miles from major habitation and, as I have said, is in a noisy place anyway. Its difficult to imagine a more appropriate place for it to be. In my view, what we have is an extremely selfish individual who expects everything around them to change, no matter how long it has been there or how many people enjoy its existence. They are not satisfied with the council's recommendations or Dave Coventry's attempts to make matters easier for them and if such persons always had their way nothing would ever be built and huge numbers of amenities would be torn down. What I will not deny is that the actions that have been perpertrated against them are absolutely appalling,wholly unjustifiable and are almost certainly provoked by their stance (although proving that will be difficult). Whoever has taken these acts may just find that their stupidity could cost the stadium and its continued existence very dearly indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I think the should be a big 'IF' when talking of these supposed actions against them. IF they ever happened in some cases, IF any or all of them were intentional and most importantly IF they were the deliberate actions of people who were in any way involved with the motorsport. Such people seem to make many enemies in life and just lay the blame for everything in the place that most suits their current grievance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) With respect tomcat, I am sure they were made aware of the Stadium and it's activities. The fireworks and daily 'battle of the tannoys' inititated a complaint to the stadium / motocross which went unheeded, leading to a direct complaint to FHDC who then set up noise measuring equipment - which obviously brought the whole lot under the spotlight. Just posting the facts here as they currently are to date.. I would say offering to buy a property from someone ,who had not taken the time to check on their surroundings before making what is considered the biggest and most important purchase most people will ever make , was a charitable act rather than an admission of guilt,and assuming the fair market value was offered was a solution that would have been agreeable to both parties. but then again I would say that because I'm not trying to justify my pitiful and petty complaints against something that brings many people enjoyment. Edited January 31, 2011 by speedibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Been with my mate tonight and we where looking at the many speedway sites on facebook, which I’m not on. Some of the sites are brilliant, riders who where my idols, will have to start living in 2011. I feel though a few things where a bit out of order on facebook. Firstly pictures of people-other promoters-on a Save Mildenhall site, which it is claimed voted against Mildenhall coming back into the NL. Is this information 100% correct? Didn’t read all the posts if I’m honest. John Sampford had his picture supporting Mildenhall, taken last year and claiming he didn’t help Mildenhall at the recent NL AGM. But was he at the AGM? To my knowledge he‘s just a team manager? If I was John I would be extremely upset at this, same goes for Len Silver and BSPA press officer Nigel Pearson-was he at the AGM?- also both pictured, who they allegedly claim voted against Mildenhall acceptance in this years NL We all know Len Silver and Steve Ribbons have a bit of history, perhaps it was a personal thing in which case Len should have at least not voted, assuming he voted against. But maybe, just maybe other fellow promoters feel that perhaps the lack of air fence could have been a issue? There have been some very nasty injuries at West Row in recent years and perhaps with Nigel Pearson-if he was at the AGM- always keeping on about the importance of air fences on Monday night speedway, that may as well been an issue with him / Dudley. It’s certainly by the look of things become a major political issue, no different to what’s gone at Coventry and Peterborough. We’re all entitled to free speech, Steve Ribbons is obviously extremely peed of with the whole thing and wanted on this forum to put his side of events. Will we see any response from the BSPA? I think we all know the answer to that, at the most it will be a token response. I wish Mildenhall well, if I’m honest, the track does need a air fence but firstly the obstacle of the court case threatens the whole site, that’s now the one they have to win. Loose that at its curtains for the everyone and everything at Mildenhall Stadium and the motor cross as well. Good Luck Mildenahll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostylion Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Been with my mate tonight and we where looking at the many speedway sites on facebook, which I’m not on. Some of the sites are brilliant, riders who where my idols, will have to start living in 2011. I feel though a few things where a bit out of order on facebook. Firstly pictures of people-other promoters-on a Save Mildenhall site, which it is claimed voted against Mildenhall coming back into the NL. Is this information 100% correct? Didn’t read all the posts if I’m honest. John Sampford had his picture supporting Mildenhall, taken last year and claiming he didn’t help Mildenhall at the recent NL AGM. But was he at the AGM? To my knowledge he‘s just a team manager? If I was John I would be extremely upset at this, same goes for Len Silver and BSPA press officer Nigel Pearson-was he at the AGM?- also both pictured, who they allegedly claim voted against Mildenhall acceptance in this years NL We all know Len Silver and Steve Ribbons have a bit of history, perhaps it was a personal thing in which case Len should have at least not voted, assuming he voted against. But maybe, just maybe other fellow promoters feel that perhaps the lack of air fence could have been a issue? There have been some very nasty injuries at West Row in recent years and perhaps with Nigel Pearson-if he was at the AGM- always keeping on about the importance of air fences on Monday night speedway, that may as well been an issue with him / Dudley. It’s certainly by the look of things become a major political issue, no different to what’s gone at Coventry and Peterborough. We’re all entitled to free speech, Steve Ribbons is obviously extremely peed of with the whole thing and wanted on this forum to put his side of events. Will we see any response from the BSPA? I think we all know the answer to that, at the most it will be a token response. I wish Mildenhall well, if I’m honest, the track does need a air fence but firstly the obstacle of the court case threatens the whole site, that’s now the one they have to win. Loose that at its curtains for the everyone and everything at Mildenhall Stadium and the motor cross as well. Good Luck Mildenahll have to agree with you there Dave i also read that site and thought is it any wonder the tigers are in the position they are in,Nikko,you clain to try and help young riders but how is calling them all names and threatening to blow the lid on the agm going to help you in your quest.you come across a little bitter on a personnal level.if you are so good,as you seem to think on the sms fentigers page,Why didnt you take on the promotion Calling promotors names in public wont do you any favours,as well as make yourself look a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) If this person (or anyone else)moved in after the stadium was built (ie mid 1970's) they knew it was there. Consequently, they knew about the noise before moving in. If they moved in later, then they would have known about the stock cars and Moto X as well. Hi HT, This was the point I raised, then got a list of alleged attacks against the complainant and a list of those allegedly responsible and being taken to court from Mr Just Down The Road. I ask why he aimed that at me, as I was only pointing out the facts with regards to disclosure of any potential nuisances and he replied that with all due respect to myself, he was just stating the facts. I'm still waiting for a reasoned answer from Mr Just Down The Road on my question, from either him or herself or anyone else defending the person making the noise complaint. Another question to the same person/persons... If the people alleged to haved carried out these attacks are due in a court of law, has any of them actually been arrested? As the accusation are based on criminal damage, threatening behaviour and so on, for which the accused have to have been arrested for and charges brought against them. You cannot just phone your solicitor and say, "I believe Mr X has set fire to my home/smashed my car/placed farm machinery in a field to block my light etc and they're taken to court. In particular, the accusations of arson and damaging property must be followed by arrest and charges being laid before any court action, as a police investigation would be needed to gather evidence and statements from any witnesses to acertain whether those accused have any case to answer. Edited February 1, 2011 by tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpartialOne Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Unfirtunately there are many people around these days who fall in to the category of the house buyer in question. I knew a guy who worked at an abattoir surrounded by fields. They operated for 20 years day and night with trucks going in and out all hours of the day. Suddenly a housing estate appeared and within 3 years they were forced to close due to complaints from residents about the noise! What is worse than these people is the laws that let them get away with it. A few residents closed a business and put around 50 people out of work. The consequences of the resident in Mildenhall and the laws that allow him/her to do such a thing a far greater, not to mention more absurd given the surrounding noise pollution. Edited February 1, 2011 by ImpartialOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 have to agree with you there Dave i also read that site and thought is it any wonder the tigers are in the position they are in,Nikko,you clain to try and help young riders but how is calling them all names and threatening to blow the lid on the agm going to help you in your quest.you come across a little bitter on a personnal level.if you are so good,as you seem to think on the sms fentigers page,Why didnt you take on the promotion Calling promotors names in public wont do you any favours,as well as make yourself look a fool Yes you are probably right. Have come on here this morning having posted an apology on the sms site to read your post which in the cold light of day is a fair comment. "Firstly let me say that clearly feelings have been running very high since the decision last week, mine included. However having reviewed all my postings of the last few days I now feel that it was wrong to post them and would therefore like to apologise to those that I may have offended." Nikko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 The posts by SMS itself always allow the right of reply, we hope, from the people concerned. As an organisation we do not wish to offend and if we have made an incorrect assumption then we will make the necessary apology and correction. Our aim is to highlight the position Mildenhall have been put in and to get some transparency of the decision making at the top level of the sport that we all love. We will continue that campaign. One thing we are not responsible for is the opinions of the individuals who post on our facebook page. It is open for all to debate the issues and to put forward their opinions. People are obviously very angry and that is hardly surprising in the circumstances. One way of countering that anger is for the whole issue to be handled in a more open and transparent manner. When you have a lack of real facts it is easy to make mistakes and to allow your anger to overcome better judgement. As mentioned we hope all of the SMS posts allow the right of reply and that those concerned use that right of reply. And if we have made mistakes we apologise. The campaign to raise funds and awareness of our situation will continue and I think in the current situation that will involve questioning the manner in which decisions are made in our sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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