PhilK Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Further light on the decision taken, maybe? .. Quoted from todays Bury Free Press with comments attributed to Moorish in bold However, BSPA co-ordinator Peter Moorish this week quashed any hopes of a Fen Tigers revival - for this season at least. "As far as I am concerned, the vote has been made at the BSPA and it has been decided that Mildenhall Fen Tigers are not in a position to be granted a spot for the forthcoming NL season." The Tigers folded in August after former promoter Ray Mascall failed to find a buyer and, according to Morrish, that was the underlying reason behind the BSPA's decision. "The decision is completely fair," he said, "there is nothing worse than a club folding halfway through a season. It cost the BSPA a great deal of time and money trying to fix what was a total collapse at Mildenhall. I alone sacrificied a whole week of my life in the summer trying to sort the problems at the club. Since then I have been working long and hard with Dave Coventry in search of a new buyer, but in six months nothing of note has materialised" Looking ahead to the 2012 NL campaign, Moorish did offer the club some chink of light. He said " Mildenhall has a super stadium and everything going for it. I love the club and would certainly want it to make a return at some point". There is a lot more about this issue, but thats probably the most interesting part, along with a small piece about young Ollie Rayson being left in limbo and looking for a club for 2012! Lets hope this promising youngster finds one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I alone sacrificied a whole week of my life in the summer trying to sort the problems at the club. Yes, I'm sure Ray Mascal's wife is sorry for the inconvenience her death caused you, Mr Morrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ond Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) TAKEN FROM THE CAMBRIDGE EVENING NEWS SITE "They said the main factors were the stadium's court case and that they did not wish any further embarrassment after last year's closure had caused them a lot of work. "They told me that we couldn't appeal. It could be the finish of Mildenhall. ."[/b][/b] Further light on the decision taken, maybe? .. Quoted from todays Bury Free Press with comments attributed to Moorish in bold However, BSPA co-ordinator Peter Moorish this week quashed any hopes of a Fen Tigers revival - for this season at least. "As far as I am concerned, the vote has been made at the BSPA and it has been decided that Mildenhall Fen Tigers are not in a position to be granted a spot for the forthcoming NL season." It cost the BSPA a great deal of time and money trying to fix what was a total collapse at Mildenhall. I alone sacrificied a whole week of my life in the summer trying to sort the problems at the club. Since then I have been working long and hard with Dave Coventry in search of a new buyer, but in six months nothing of note has materialised"[/b] So if the stabillity of the stadium is the main factor.... why spend 6 months with Dave Coventry trying to sort out the speedway knowing that this court case was pending??? Why would it cost the BSPA money when they would of kept the bond paid by the previous promotion... Why is Mr Morrish sacrifying a week in his life when this is his JOB!!!!!!??? With 2 clubs folding this year, thats 2 bonds kept and none of the riders got paid out of the bonds as there was no money left...... where did all the money go??????? Edited January 28, 2011 by ond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 TAKEN FROM THE CAMBRIDGE EVENING NEWS SITE [b]Rejection means end of the line for Tigers by David Crane Kevin Jolly admits he is still reeling from shock after being told Mildenhall would not be accepted into this year's National League. The former Fen Tigers rider was given the news by league co-ordinator Peter Morrish and BSPA committee member Jon Cook after a ballot in Rugby on Tuesday. And he conceded, along with stadium owner Dave Coventry, that the West Row outfit will now be forced into closure. Jolly said: "I had spoken to Peter prior to Tuesday and asked if we were wanted, to which he replied yes. We had put a very sound business package together and were keen on discovering new talent. "This was possibly the club's last chance but it seems our faces didn't fit. "I was very shocked at how the whole situation was handled. There were four teams waiting for acceptance and I felt that we had an excellent set-up. "They said that Steve (Ribbons) being involved was a reason but the main factors were the stadium's court case and that they did not wish any further embarrassment after last year's closure had caused them a lot of work. "They told me that we couldn't appeal. It could be the finish of Mildenhall. "It is very sad and disappointing and it is the fans that are the ones who lose out. "We couldn't have done any more. We didn't get a chance to put our case across." Coventry added: "It never ceases to amaze me the decisions the BSPA make. "We have the stadium, the origins and the right men to run it. "It looks like speedway will have to be on hold for a year. There are no other serious parties in the pipeline."[/b] well why doent dave coventry buy the licence etc? he could then put in place a couple of more experienced people to run the speedway and there are people who are capable of doing this im sure but more importantly people who are acceptable to peter morrish,hes picked the wrong people thats obvious and there were other parties interested before so perhaps he needs to go back to them and maybe eat a bit of humble pie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Star Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 More of interest in the Cambridge News today concerning the current Court case: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Newmarket/Racetrack-row-pair-had-home-torched.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 well why doent dave coventry buy the licence etc? he could then put in place a couple of more experienced people to run the speedway and there are people who are capable of doing this im sure but more importantly people who are acceptable to peter morrish,hes picked the wrong people thats obvious and there were other parties interested before so perhaps he needs to go back to them and maybe eat a bit of humble pie . I am sure Dave did what he thought was best and it was clear from communications from the BSPA that they were leaving it to him to work with potential promoters. Now whatever the rights and wrongs of that decision I do struggle to understand how we found ourselves in the situation that Dave finds a potential promotion he is happy with, a business case is put together and is sent to the BSPA only for that to be turned down at the last minute. As 'billy' says, and as Dave said in press releases, there were other parties interested and we can only hope that over the next 6 months or so Dave and the BSPA can continue to work together to find a promotion that is acceptable to the BSPA. This is not a case of Dave eating humble pie its a case of everyone working together to ensure the Fen Tigers have a future and the NL has another club in 2012. For that reason I hope, beyond hope, that this can all be done, agreed and a licence issued for the Fen Tigers in the next 6 months or so. Then any new promotion will have the time to plan for the 2012 season. If not the Fen Tigers may never race again. Finally re Ollie, he is one of a number of young riders who will now be hoping to get a call for 2011. It will be a travesty that some of our young riders will be without a team come April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I am sure Dave did what he thought was best and it was clear from communications from the BSPA that they were leaving it to him to work with potential promoters. Now whatever the rights and wrongs of that decision I do struggle to understand how we found ourselves in the situation that Dave finds a potential promotion he is happy with, a business case is put together and is sent to the BSPA only for that to be turned down at the last minute. As 'billy' says, and as Dave said in press releases, there were other parties interested and we can only hope that over the next 6 months or so Dave and the BSPA can continue to work together to find a promotion that is acceptable to the BSPA. This is not a case of Dave eating humble pie its a case of everyone working together to ensure the Fen Tigers have a future and the NL has another club in 2012. For that reason I hope, beyond hope, that this can all be done, agreed and a licence issued for the Fen Tigers in the next 6 months or so. Then any new promotion will have the time to plan for the 2012 season. If not the Fen Tigers may never race again. Finally re Ollie, he is one of a number of young riders who will now be hoping to get a call for 2011. It will be a travesty that some of our young riders will be without a team come April. Agree with you here.Is there any chance of getting a temp licence or something so Mildenhall can at least hold a couple of open meetings.Or even how they started before with training track meetings?Not sure if they still exist though.....but something so that at least the speedway keeps ticking over and not have a year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 More of interest in the Cambridge News today concerning the current Court case: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Newmarket/Racetrack-row-pair-had-home-torched.htm Wonder if the Stadium and MX were there when they moved in? The rest of it sounds like they've been watching some of those 60's Hells Angels films and decided it could be reality. If they can't move back why do they want to restrict the operations to 40 days? Important court case for all of us I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Wonder if the Stadium and MX were there when they moved in? The rest of it sounds like they've been watching some of those 60's Hells Angels films and decided it could be reality. If they can't move back why do they want to restrict the operations to 40 days? Important court case for all of us I would think. A similar case happened about 4 years ago at Croft race circuit about noise and disruption to peace. The complainers won. The chief complainer was the former wife of one of the circuits owners. Basically after that case anyone can move anywhere and complain about existing activities, factories etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Wonder if the Stadium and MX were there when they moved in? The rest of it sounds like they've been watching some of those 60's Hells Angels films and decided it could be reality. If they can't move back why do they want to restrict the operations to 40 days? Important court case for all of us I would think. the stadium was there long before they moved as was the mx. funny how someone can move to an area knowing full well there is a long established motorsports venue nearby and then complain.i believe the track was built in the early 70s so well established and its underneath a flight path from a nearby usaf airbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 A similar case happened about 4 years ago at Croft race circuit about noise and disruption to peace. The complainers won. The chief complainer was the former wife of one of the circuits owners. Basically after that case anyone can move anywhere and complain about existing activities, factories etc. Just read the background to that case and based upon albeit limited information it does seem similar. I just don't understand the logic. It seems to set a precedent that any person, anywhere, can close down anything. It means that a person can move next door to a cat food factory, complain about the smell and have the factory closed down. Lets face it, if you don't like the sea, you don't move into a lighthouse. My first question to anyone in such a situation here is if you don't like noise, why did you move in, particularly bearing in mind that the speedway track is right at the end of runway of a RAF air base ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 It is true. Where I work we operate a heavy plant hire business out of a village farm. Residents move in, often holiday homes, and complain to the council. We have limits on how much machinery we're allowed in the yard, operational hours, what machinery is left in view of the road, etc, and most of it is made by people that moved in after the business had started, or just have holiday homes. Sadly, the council likes to listen to people like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I too read the post and its obvious, and totally understandable, that feelings are running very high at the moment. Although not one to condone mods removing posts, I do think for the good of the name of Mildenhall Fen Tigers and any possible future it may have that we all conduct ourselves in a professional manner. Personal attacks, and Steve Ribbons has had them on this forum, are not accetable and I would hope when things calm down that Steve himself will agree that removing the post was not such a bad thing. We need to move on from the mudslinging, no matter how hard that is, and work towards bringing the great Fen Tigers fans their team back. Nikko To those who want to see it - I think it is becoming clearer that the decision made by the BSPA was in fact a correct one. The one thing that was imperative this forthcoming season, after recent season debacles, was that Mildenhall Speedway had a TOTALLY Professional Promotion in place - after some of the behaviour on here surely that would have had to be questionable. The potentially shameful part, and question is:- Will the MILDENHALL FEN TIGERS ever recover from this lastest shameful exhibition ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 It is true. Where I work we operate a heavy plant hire business out of a village farm. Residents move in, often holiday homes, and complain to the council. We have limits on how much machinery we're allowed in the yard, operational hours, what machinery is left in view of the road, etc, and most of it is made by people that moved in after the business had started, or just have holiday homes. Sadly, the council likes to listen to people like this. Another indication of the crazy, unjust, and non logical world we all try to live in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) To those who want to see it - I think it is becoming clearer that the decision made by the BSPA was in fact a correct one. The one thing that was imperative this forthcoming season, after recent season debacles, was that Mildenhall Speedway had a TOTALLY Professional Promotion in place - after some of the behaviour on here surely that would have had to be questionable. The potentially shameful part, and question is:- Will the MILDENHALL FEN TIGERS ever recover from this lastest shameful exhibition ?? I don't think we will know this until the BSPA actually state the precise grounds for the refusal - and not just something as general as money and the stadium - and I don't think they will do that. To my mind,and even allowing for reasonable confidentiality, that does them no good because there could be totally acceptable grounds for their decision that entirely rebut Steve Ribbons case. What's worse, it leaves them constantly open to allegations of selfishness and underhand practice that could be entirely untrue. One thing is certain and that is Mr Ribbons has damaged his own standing with Mildenhall fans by his outbursts on here. Even if you felt that his initial action to lay open his side of events was correct (and I do) a willingness to be personally abusive is absolutely unacceptable from someone who wanted to run a speedway club, whatever the provocation. Edited January 28, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just down the road Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Ribbons wasn't 'accepted' by Dave Coventry - he was 'accepted' by James/Terry Waters. Coventry only has a minor freehold stake in the site - Waters still calls the shots and decides who goes in there. If you had kept your mouth shut about your £150k + Steve, you would have been shown the door of the racing office a lot sooner and saved us all a lot of pain.. Edited January 28, 2011 by Just down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I don't think we will know this until the BSPA actually state the precise grounds for the refusal - and not just something as general as money and the stadium - and I don't think they will do that. To my mind,and even allowing for reasonable confidentiality, that does them no good because there could be totally acceptable grounds for their decision that entirely rebut Steve Ribbons case. What's worse, it leaves them constantly open to allegations of selfishness and underhand practice that could be entirely untrue. One thing is certain and that is Mr Ribbons has damaged his own standing with Mildenhall fans by his outbursts on here. Even if you felt that his initial action to lay open his side of events was correct (and I do) a willingness to be personally abusive is absolutely unacceptable from someone who wanted to run a speedway club, whatever the provocation. Good post - totally agree with your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Yes, I'm sure Ray Mascal's wife is sorry for the inconvenience her death caused you, Mr Morrish. Quite right. I spoke several times to Ray in the days after Jean died and I felt his shocking pain and to read now what Mr. Morrish is saying, leaves just about the worst taste in the mouth imaginable. You know what Speedway in this country needs more than anything, some basic decency and some humanity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Just read the background to that case and based upon albeit limited information it does seem similar. I just don't understand the logic. It seems to set a precedent that any person, anywhere, can close down anything. It means that a person can move next door to a cat food factory, complain about the smell and have the factory closed down. Lets face it, if you don't like the sea, you don't move into a lighthouse. My first question to anyone in such a situation here is if you don't like noise, why did you move in, particularly bearing in mind that the speedway track is right at the end of runway of a RAF air base ? I know from experience.I worked in a Chemical factory that was originally in an industrial area.But gradually the factories were reülaced by residential areas and the people moving in complained about the noise and the smell, not only from our place but also the pub across the road... It wasn't as if the could miss our place when looking around their soon to be home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Quite right. I spoke several times to Ray in the days after Jean died and I felt his shocking pain and to read now what Mr. Morrish is saying, leaves just about the worst taste in the mouth imaginable. You know what Speedway in this country needs more than anything, some basic decency and some humanity.. I wouldn't expect any; other area's of life that are supposed to be decent and humane seem to struggle with it. Apparently, the modern world does not call for compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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