alan_boon Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 It really is time that someone sought a meeting with the ACU and nailed down exactly whether they approve of what's going on in speedway this winter. If they are aware of what's transipred I can't believe for a second they're happy. Of course, it could be that they're so giddy with glee at the way things are run that they can afford to be nonchalant about the enforced loss of 3 tracks this winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 You have to be kidding, the ACU collect a few quid from Speedway and their interest ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Without getting into the politics of what has happened this week I would like to make 2 points: Â 1) Everyone seems to have forgotton that the catalyst for last years problems, which it seems have still been a factor in this weeks decision, was the death of a very fine person and life long Fen Tigers and speedway fan. This was an exceptional circumstance. In hindsight everyone can say things should and could have been dealt with differently, and they could have been, but unless you are in that situation I suggest it is wrong to judge. Personally I can understand that the other Chairman may have been nervous about Mildenhall after what happened last season but as per the above, they were exceptional circumstances. Â 2)My second point is that, as my wife has told me numerous times over the last 3 days, my phone has not stopped ringing, and my emails are blocked with people wanting to know how they can help. The hardcore support for Mildenhall is exceptional as is shown by the SMS, by the people who year in year out find hard earned money to help sponsor the riders, by the fans who spent vasts amount of money following the Fen Tigers away. People have commented recently that Mildenhall over the last 5 or so years always seem to have had problems and I remember someone writing that it would be best if they just stayed shut. Well for teh moment the governing body and other NL Chairmen seem to agree with that statement but if they heard the calls I have taken over the last 3 days, read the emails I have received etc they would know that there are alot of people who believe that a professionally run Mildenhall Fen Tigers would be an asset to National League. Â Young British riders need as much opportunity to race in proper meetings as possible if they are to progress. To help ensure this happens we should be encouraging tracks to enter the NL, not turning them away. Â We now have Mildenhall, Weymouth, Peterborough, Iwade/Sittingbourne, Coventry, Lydd all with tracks and no teams !! Â Where are the future young British riders going to learn their trade? Â Nikko After going through thousands of words, differences of opinion, etc; etc; on this forum - I am still somewhat confused as to who / what was the final straw in terms of Mildenhalls aborted / refused / withdrawn entry into the NL for 2011. Â Â It would appear from what I've read, on the lines, and between them, that Steve Ribbons was not acceptable to the BSPA as a potential Promoter for whatever reason - please correct me someone if I'm wrong about this or any of the following. WAS THIS A / THE REASON ?? Â It would appear that Kevin Jolly was possibly seen differently, but with Kevin quite possibly not being involved in Speedway since being a Rider, in any Official capacity anyway, perhaps one could understand hesitancy on the part of the BSPA there in terms of a Promotional spearhead. WAS THIS A / THE REASON ?? Â In terms of financial input required by the BSPA for any 'new' promotion at Mildenhall, bearing in mind previous and recent history (which had to be considered), I would have thought the financial requests were reasonable, as quoted/stated, and to be expected. WAS THIS A / THE REASON ?? Â Therefore - WAS IT FINANCIAL / PERSONAL ?? - OR BOTH ?? Â It leaves me only to say that:- 'talk is always cheap' - 'action is often expensive' .......... and can be expected in every situation and all walks of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostylion Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Because you lot moan about 'no one promotes the sport anymore' I thought I'd be honest and tell everyone that I had planned to do something about it! But then you Slag me off!! Â What a sad and twisted individual you are..... Talking about yourself are you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) A Secret vote! Incredible this is supposed to be a professionally run sport, not the Masons! Although thinking about it ......... speedway is run by a bunch of amateur who could not run the drinks party in a brewery Edited January 27, 2011 by bw double Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenfan Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 It is human nature to try and fill in the gaps when there is little or no information forthcoming. I found this forum by accident thankfully and now have some information about why I will not be able to visit West Row with 3 generations of my family this Summer to watch my favourite sport. Thank you Mr Ribbons, Nikko, Simon etc for being open and honest but I, along with many, many others, am gutted at the way things have panned out. If the BSPA wish to quell rumours etc they should put more than one poxy little line about Mildenhall not racing next season which is frankly an insult to us Fen Tigers fans. The internet is a form of communication these days and a medium the BSPA should perhaps seek to use better, if only to stop speculation, otherwise, they will face a back-lash and assumptions being made. Frankly, I don't care about history, personal grudges etc. If speedway clubs and the organisation as a whole are to be run profitably and professionally, it needs to be managed fairly, openly and with integrity or it will fail. Each case should be judged on it's individual merits and the people involved kept informed and given a fair right to put forward proposals be told clearly of any concerns, with time to respond and the chance to amend things if needed - fans included, who, at the end of the day, pay for the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) It is human nature to try and fill in the gaps when there is little or no information forthcoming. I found this forum by accident thankfully and now have some information about why I will not be able to visit West Row with 3 generations of my family this Summer to watch my favourite sport. Thank you Mr Ribbons, Nikko, Simon etc for being open and honest but I, along with many, many others, am gutted at the way things have panned out. If the BSPA wish to quell rumours etc they should put more than one poxy little line about Mildenhall not racing next season which is frankly an insult to us Fen Tigers fans. The internet is a form of communication these days and a medium the BSPA should perhaps seek to use better, if only to stop speculation, otherwise, they will face a back-lash and assumptions being made. Frankly, I don't care about history, personal grudges etc. If speedway clubs and the organisation as a whole are to be run profitably and professionally, it needs to be managed fairly, openly and with integrity or it will fail. Each case should be judged on it's individual merits and the people involved kept informed and given a fair right to put forward proposals be told clearly of any concerns, with time to respond and the chance to amend things if needed - fans included, who, at the end of the day, pay for the whole thing. don't hold your breath, but welcome to the forum anyway. Edited January 27, 2011 by cityrebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stbendbunching Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Well it's another Ipswich fan who's gutted that Mildenhall are not running this year. Â For what it's worth I thought Steve Ribbons had some great ideas for promoting at Mildenhall and the proposed link up with Ipswich and the Anglian League for the youngsters was kist what was needed to help bring on the Brits. Â Steve - as fans is there anything at all we could do that would help to get this going again, or is it well and truly over for Mildenhall this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Has censorship struck! I am certain that 20 minutes ago from the time of this message there was a response from Steve Ribbons to various matters. Now it's gone. I cannot say I am surprised after reading some of the comments made in it. I even posted a small reply, which I have just taken down as it's not needed - there's nothing to reply to! Edited January 28, 2011 by speedyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Has censorship struck! I am certain that 20 minutes ago from the time of this message there was a response from Steve Ribbons to various matters. Now it's gone. I cannot say I am surprised after reading some of the comments made in it. I even posted a small reply, which I have just taken down as it's not needed - there's nothing to reply to! i read it as well. there was some pretty hot stuff in that post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ribbons Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 It would seem that you were the one complaining..... and so the moderators have removed my post...you can dish it out but you obviously cant take it!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Has censorship struck! I am certain that 20 minutes ago from the time of this message there was a response from Steve Ribbons to various matters. Now it's gone. I cannot say I am surprised after reading some of the comments made in it. I even posted a small reply, which I have just taken down as it's not needed - there's nothing to reply to! Â I also read it (2 or 3 times) before it disapeared, do you think a mod might have removed it because of the posts content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) I also read it (2 or 3 times) before it disapeared, do you think a mod might have removed it because of the posts content? Â I too read the post and its obvious, and totally understandable, that feelings are running very high at the moment. Â Although not one to condone mods removing posts, I do think for the good of the name of Mildenhall Fen Tigers and any possible future it may have that we all conduct ourselves in a professional manner. Â Personal attacks, and Steve Ribbons has had them on this forum, are not accetable and I would hope when things calm down that Steve himself will agree that removing the post was not such a bad thing. Â We need to move on from the mudslinging, no matter how hard that is, and work towards bringing the great Fen Tigers fans their team back. Â Nikko Edited January 28, 2011 by Nikko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 PLEASE DO NOT POST LIBELOUS COMMENTS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Steven Ribbons you have a PM explain why it was requested to be removed. Â Also correct your email address or PM it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ribbons Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I apologise unreservedly speedguy, I've worked out it wasn't you who complained about my post, (edited again) Â Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I too read the post and its obvious, and totally understandable, that feelings are running very high at the moment.  Although not one to condone mods removing posts, I do think for the good of the name of Mildenhall Fen Tigers and any possible future it may have that we all conduct ourselves in a professional manner.  Personal attacks, and Steve Ribbons has had them on this forum, are not accetable and I would hope when things calm down that Steve himself will agree that removing the post was not such a bad thing.  We need to move on from the mudslinging, no matter how hard that is, and work towards bringing the great Fen Tigers fans their team back.  Nikko  All respect to you, Nikko, you have remained professional throughout this. Reading the postings still on the thread this morning, I'd suggest if Steve Ribbons is unable to post in a professional and polite manner, regardless of what may be directed his way, it may be better for Mildenhall if he does not post at all. Whilst it is hard to respond to personal insult, when operating in a professional capacity, you need to be able to maintain composure and be nothing but polite. Especially on the forum - you have the time to think before posting. Though please be aware, I'm not justifying the attacks by some posters, as you will see from my earlier posting(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 To what aim are you posting this morning, Steve? You are creating a bad name for yourself with neutrals that have heard nothing of you, and judge you solely based on your postings, and are certainly not helping your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) TAKEN FROM THE CAMBRIDGE EVENING NEWS SITE  [b]Rejection means end of the line for Tigers by David Crane    Kevin Jolly admits he is still reeling from shock after being told Mildenhall would not be accepted into this year's National League.  The former Fen Tigers rider was given the news by league co-ordinator Peter Morrish and BSPA committee member Jon Cook after a ballot in Rugby on Tuesday. And he conceded, along with stadium owner Dave Coventry, that the West Row outfit will now be forced into closure.  Jolly said: "I had spoken to Peter prior to Tuesday and asked if we were wanted, to which he replied yes. We had put a very sound business package together and were keen on discovering new talent.  "This was possibly the club's last chance but it seems our faces didn't fit.  "I was very shocked at how the whole situation was handled. There were four teams waiting for acceptance and I felt that we had an excellent set-up.  "They said that Steve (Ribbons) being involved was a reason but the main factors were the stadium's court case and that they did not wish any further embarrassment after last year's closure had caused them a lot of work.  "They told me that we couldn't appeal. It could be the finish of Mildenhall.  "It is very sad and disappointing and it is the fans that are the ones who lose out. "We couldn't have done any more. We didn't get a chance to put our case across."  Coventry added: "It never ceases to amaze me the decisions the BSPA make. "We have the stadium, the origins and the right men to run it.  "It looks like speedway will have to be on hold for a year. There are no other serious parties in the pipeline."[/b] Edited January 28, 2011 by PhilK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have seen a number of posts on this forum over the years which would make me cautious with Mr Ribbons. Just go back to my original post and after reading the offending post this morning,all i can say is ....Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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