mummycaz Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Nothing on the BSPA website at the moment. No statement in the Press Release section there either. Is this the first announcement of this? If so, is using this forum to come on and have a rant really the way to go? Sure, a lot of people have got it in for the BSPA at the moment - including me!! - but there's only one side of the story here and it's clearly been posted in an area where the BSPA can not respond. Maybe just for once he wanted to tell the Mildenhall supporters just what is going on. We have waited long enough for someone to tell us something!!! Edited January 25, 2011 by mummycaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Nothing on the BSPA website at the moment. No statement in the Press Release section there either. Is this the first announcement of this? If so, is using this forum to come on and have a rant really the way to go? Sure, a lot of people have got it in for the BSPA at the moment - including me!! - but there's only one side of the story here and it's clearly been posted in an area where the BSPA can not respond. I am glad that Steve Ribbons has chosen to post his thoughts on here and in some detail, becuse we certainly won't get that from the BSPA. What we will get is a short statement about the stadium and finances, completely disregarding many relevant questions that are undeniably applicable. In addition, aside from Speedy Star, I am not too certain where he might have put his case publicly and to those who are particularly interested. Beat me too it Grachan.I know it is a highly charged thread and most people will be angry at losing another club.Most people will also be happy to lay the blame at the door of the BSPA.But maybe they are cautious of giving a Promoters licence to someone who comes ona forum and posts all the details in the open.I have seen a number of posts on this forum over the years which would make me cautious with Mr Ribbons.Sad though it is,maybe there are reasons for these conditions What a heinous crime that someone comes on here and posts details out in the open that should be made public anyway. Why on earth should Mildenhall fans be denied the full reasoning for the decision to refuse to allow their track to open ? Maybe there are reasons for these conditions. One thing is certain, though: we will never get to know what they are. Edited January 25, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) What a heinous crime that someone comes on here and posts details out in the open that should be made public anyway. Why on earth should Mildenhall fans be denied the full reasoning for the decision to refuse to allow their track to open ? Maybe there are reasons for these conditions. One thing is certain, though: we will never get to know what they are. If you are hoping to join an organisation you have to play by their rules.I think one of those is not to make public statements on forums.Correct me if i am wrong there though......So regardless of what you or i think it could be that if someone isn't going to play by the rules or is know not to then it won't be easy to join the club.Facts of life and as a business man or an employee you don't have to be Einstein to work out you have to play the game ,or as maybe Coventry are trying to do,take on the organisation. Edited January 25, 2011 by iris123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) If you are hoping to join an organisation you have to play by their rules.I think one of those is not to make public statements on forums.Correct me if i am wrong there though......So regardless of what you or i think it could be that if someone isn't going to play by the rules or is know not too then it won't be easy to join the club.Facts of life and as a business man or an employee you don't have to be Einstein to work out you have to play the game or as maybe Coventry are trying to do,take on the organisation. Malcolm Vasey, Jonathan Chapman, Dave Hoggart, Rob Godfrey Jayne Moss & Dale Allitt are all more or less regular contributors to this forum and quite often don't mince their words. That's another BSPA rule : one law for one, one law for another. Edited January 25, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Total disgrace.......does the BSPA/Morrish actually want a National League? Beyond belief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracy Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Just when it looked as if things were finally going our way after all the frustration of last year, we get news like this. I don't know a lot about Steve Ribbons, but it seems completly unfair to impose conditions on the new promotion because of the problems suffered last year. I can understand the BSPA being cautious, especially with the on going court case. Like Chris has suggested why not issue a licence, on the proviso that the court case has the RIGHT result. It does no one any good when teams fold mid season, but they're not giving us a chance. The BSPA seem intent on ruining the sport with it's heavy handed approach. Is it too late now for Dave Coventry to apply to run the speedway this season, or would he be told the deadline has passed? You would think the BSPA would want to encourage teams not slap them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Malcolm Vasey, Jonathan Chapman, Jayne Moss & Dale Allitt are all regular contributors to this forum and quite often don't mince their words. That's another BSPA rule : one law for one, one law for another. I know.But they have stated it isn't allowed.And they haven't as far as i have seen posted something as imflamatory as this statement.Plus,you will generally find once in an organisation you can get away with more than if you are not.But maybe you can correct me if i am wrong on that as well......it is tough sometimes.Life is tough sometimes.Tell me about it.But if you rock the boat you can expect to get wet.....I just don't think this statement is going to do Mr Ribbons or Mildenhall speedway much good.And quite honestly i am more concerned with the latter than the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refereerick Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I know.But they have stated it isn't allowed.And they haven't as far as i have seen posted something as imflamatory as this statement.Plus,you will generally find once in an organisation you can get away with more than if you are not.But maybe you can correct me if i am wrong on that as well......it is tough sometimes.Life is tough sometimes.Tell me about it.But if you rock the boat you can expect to get wet.....I just don't think this statement is going to do Mr Ribbons or Mildenhall speedway much good.And quite honestly i am more concerned with the latter than the former But Steve Ribbons has said nothing, not even announcing that he was the new prospective promoter, until AFTER todays decision at the AGM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikko Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I know.But they have stated it isn't allowed.And they haven't as far as i have seen posted something as imflamatory as this statement.Plus,you will generally find once in an organisation you can get away with more than if you are not.But maybe you can correct me if i am wrong on that as well......it is tough sometimes.Life is tough sometimes.Tell me about it.But if you rock the boat you can expect to get wet.....I just don't think this statement is going to do Mr Ribbons or Mildenhall speedway much good.And quite honestly i am more concerned with the latter than the former To be fair the intial statement is clearly headed as a statement from the proposed promoters of Mildenhall speedway rather than from "the club" itself although at the moment of course there is no club and thats the biggest shame about all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 If you are hoping to join an organisation you have to play by their rules.I think one of those is not to make public statements on forums.Correct me if i am wrong there though......So regardless of what you or i think it could be that if someone isn't going to play by the rules or is know not to then it won't be easy to join the club.Facts of life and as a business man or an employee you don't have to be Einstein to work out you have to play the game ,or as maybe Coventry are trying to do,take on the organisation. Yea, you are right - everything in the garden is rosy so sit back and leave it as it is! Iv'e read some tripe in my life. Take a look around you at the shambles that is the Elite? league, the suggestions of underhanded payments to bring in teams to prop it up - then move on, a PL that will not take in Peterborough but rush in Plymouth after turning them down - or the NL who if what Steve Ribbons has stated re: the work the poor Office girls had to do for a previous promoter is part of the reason for a financial penalty - I suggest if there are no clubs to oversee then no need for an Office or Office girls following your stance on the way business operates the girls should be grateful to have the extra work to do as it provides them with a job. Then take the development of youngsters and all the TV money / GP revenue that the BSPA put in to encourage youngsters - oh sorry the self appointed body spreads the monies out to their own clubs instead. Still never mind eh! I think the phrase is Turkey's voting for Christmas. Revolution not evolution - that nice Mr.Mandela cracked a bigger bunch than this - mobilise comrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 But Steve Ribbons has said nothing, not even announcing that he was the new prospective promoter, until AFTER todays decision at the AGM. A speedway term springs to mind......track record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It will be sad if Mildenhall do not come to the tapes in 2011, but I think it would be even sadder if they were to start the season and then close half way through for a second season in a row due to financial problems. No personal bias either way here, just an understanding on the note of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refereerick Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 A speedway term springs to mind......track record So does that mean that in your world you'd never release anyone from prison because the have a 'track record' then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Free speech, 100% behind it. Steve Ribbons is a guy who has speedway at his heart and without him would either Rye House or Wimbledon re-opened? I think not. Of course Mr Ribbons isn’t very popular with the BSPA and without doubt, if your face don’t fit………… Mr Morrish, well what can one say about him? Don’t know the man personally, [thinks he’s how Terry Russell will be look in 20 years time] but he certainly hasn’t in my opinion done the NL any favours at all over the years. The way things are going I can see a breakaway league forming, How about the 2011 Provincial League Mildenhall, Sittingbourne-Iwade- [another BSPA favourite] Coventry [another BSPA favourite] Peterborough [another BSPA favourite] Weymouth Lydd [another BSPA favourite] That’s only two less than the Elite League! Okay a bit tong in cheek but seriously I really can see a ‘black’ league forming just as it did in 1964 unless something is done pretty dam soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 So does that mean that in your world you'd never release anyone from prison because the have a 'track record' then? Now you are making silly if not stupid statements.I won't be trying to compete with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 So sorry to hear about yet another club,having issues with the BSPA..... The way things are going, NO CLUB WILL BE SAFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I know nothing of the background of Mr Ribbon and Im not really that interested but can someone answer me a couple of questions please - T he terms were – A £5,000 payment for ‘League membership’ Surely membership implies that there is a group of people all bound by the same rules and terms and conditions.Do all clubs have to pay this membership. A £5,000 payment for the ‘promotional rights’ Again same question - do all clubs pay this and if not how would the BSPA use this £5,000. And someone said on another thread that the NL isnt managed by the BSPA - so why is it implied that the BSPA have said NO to the re-entry of Milldenhall. With all this Coventry/ Peterboro fiasco you really would have thought the BSPA would be ultra careful in any decision made from now on. Does any of the statement from Mr Ribbon indicate anything unconstitutional? I dont know - anyone have any FACTS to back up either side of the argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Whatever the rights and wrongs of this,its the many decent Mildenhall fans I feel for.They have lost their speedway and as we have seen with other tracks,when a track closes for whatever reason,in most cases its lost forever.I truely hope this wont be the case with Mildenhall Speedway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Whatever the rights and wrongs of this,its the many decent Mildenhall fans I feel for.They have lost their speedway and as we have seen with other tracks,when a track closes for whatever reason,in most cases its lost forever.I truely hope this wont be the case with Mildenhall Speedway. The thing is Screm is that it seems to me that the reason for Mildenhall not being in the NL is because Steve Ribbons face doesn't fit. That's pretty hard to stomach. Edited January 25, 2011 by Halifaxtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) First of all my sympathies lie with the Fen Tigers' fans here but I'm also very sorry that a good friend of mine in the form of Steve has been once more slapped in the face by the BSPA. Steve's an honest guy and a genuine enthusiast who cares for the sport so perhaps it's just as well that he isn't getting involved with the BSPA. Not for the first time on this forum iris123 and Blazeaway have made postings that are beneath contempt. There is a heck of a lot more to that Wimbledon story than they think they know and it's not printable here. Yes that first meeting at Plough Lane should have been called-off. The plan to lay and lift the track was a tried and proved concept but sadly didn't work on the opening night. Enthusiasm to get the place open overcame what should have been a postponed meeting. It was Steve getting up and forming the nomadic 1999 Rye House Rockets that not only saw Rye House Speedway re-open but also gave inspiration to similar moves at Middlesbrough, Scunthorpe and Weymouth. In the case of Wimbledon it was Steve who persauaded the GRA to allow speedway back in when many others had tried and failed. There was significant opposition to the Rye House revival and some quite offensive comments were reported to me as emanating from a key player in the current situation so I'm not really that surprised at the outcome of this year's plan. Blazeaway and iris123 need to consider that someone had the guts, determination and caring to get their beloved Dons reopened and not to make typically unhelpful, cynical and contemptible postings while cowardly hiding behind false names. Sadly the nature of the net allows anonymity which most people don't abuse. Sadly some do, to everybody's loss. I look forward to seeing Mildenhall speedway reopen and feel very sad that a chance has not been given for Steve to get a fair chance to show what he can bring to the sport. Speedway is going through a shocking period though and we have to hope that those responsible for it will go and inflict playing their unpleasant power games on a far less deserving sport. Rob McCaffery. Edited January 25, 2011 by rmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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