Why Bother

[BigFatDave]

 

The thing is, I believe the Aussies are know going down this route also. You only have to see what Darcy Ward & Chris Holder get up to publicly and these to are seen as the guys to take over from Adams & Crump. If they carry on they've no hope of that at all.

Think you might have the wrong end of the stick here mate.

[Mr S Bear]

The question to ask if how Tyson Burmeister and indeed Kenny Ingalls got a work permit in the first place.

Assuming that both are not EA citizens and neither has a British grandparent then they will have needed to apply for a work permit from the UK Border Agency (UKBA) through the points based immigration system Tier 2 (Sportsperson). According to the “Tier 2 of the Points Based System – Policy Guidance Version 10/2010” document on the UKBA web site, www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk, item 92 sportsperson requiring a permit under tier 2 are required to obtain an endorsement from the appropriate governing body of their sport, i.e. BSPA, and this endorsement to confirm that they are:

1) Internationally established as a player/coach at the highest level and

2) They will make a significant contribution to the development of their sport at the highest level in the UK and

3) The post could not be filled by a suitable settled worker.

Having only seen both Tyson and Eddie on one occasion I cannot say if they do met all three requirements but reading the previous postings some people have serious doubts but it is clear someone at the BSPA does not share this view. Of course an alternative method would be to do as a rider did last season and have a 6 month visitor’s visa and when people point out you cannot work in the UK with this type of visa claim you were in fact born in the UK

[scribbler]

The question to ask if how Tyson Burmeister and indeed Kenny Ingalls got a work permit in the first place.

Assuming that both are not EA citizens and neither has a British grandparent then they will have needed to apply for a work permit from the UK Border Agency (UKBA) through the points based immigration system Tier 2 (Sportsperson). According to the “Tier 2 of the Points Based System – Policy Guidance Version 10/2010” document on the UKBA web site, www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk, item 92 sportsperson requiring a permit under tier 2 are required to obtain an endorsement from the appropriate governing body of their sport, i.e. BSPA, and this endorsement to confirm that they are:

1) Internationally established as a player/coach at the highest level and

2) They will make a significant contribution to the development of their sport at the highest level in the UK and

3) The post could not be filled by a suitable settled worker.

Having only seen both Tyson and Eddie on one occasion I cannot say if they do met all three requirements but reading the previous postings some people have serious doubts but it is clear someone at the BSPA does not share this view. Of course an alternative method would be to do as a rider did last season and have a 6 month visitor’s visa and when people point out you cannot work in the UK with this type of visa claim you were in fact born in the UK

 

Like you I've read the UKBA website a few times and the rules changed in 2010 I think.

 

I presume that because Tyson is coming in as an EL rider the BSPA think it's OK as it's the highest level of Speedway in this country... but... Is the fact that he's coming in as a reserve and not in the main body of the team bending the rules? If Tyson doesn't cope in the EL and moves to the PL will the law be broken because he wouldn't be riding at the top level anymore?

[Brian De Boise]

I'm not sure who is in charge of trying to help the British riders these days but whoever it is needs to have a proper set-up made available to them through the BSPA. A set-up which helps the young British riders with sponsorship, training opportunities, contract negotiations/agent type work getting on the phone and bending the ears of all the EL promoters. Then there's also physical fitness and nutrition, things which not only make them better riders but make them look 100% committed. In essence the British riders need to have a set-up behind them which is pro-active in getting them into the Elite League and then proving themselves at that level.