ancient mariner Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 What would happen to the plans, - 10 add'l mtgs at Kirk Lane - , if the NL grows to 14-16 teams, as is possible ? Can they be fitted in?. Rose tinted specs perhaps, but love your enthusiasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Excellent news , would like to see more clubs especially the E/L clubs follow suit ( if possible), this can only help British Speedway , but as has been mentioned before the fans Must support the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boston five Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 if all go,s to plan the play off,s could be belle vue v kings lynn coventry v peterbrough who needs a elite league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 When i first heard this idea i wasn`t to excited but a couple days later and thought about it. it`s a great idea, it means we can race against teams from the "NORTH" and even have meetings against local sides or close to local. As Buxton stands outs along with Scunthorpe, Stoke and Dudley. As it would make a change our fans not having to drive about 6 or more hours down south everytime. Be great to see the Heathens ride our track once again and them bringing there huge support to kirkylane, along with the other teams nearby. Hope it happens as someone said one of the best meetings we had last year was the Colts v the US touring team. FINGERS CROSSED IT HAPPENS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 What would happen to the plans, - 10 add'l mtgs at Kirk Lane - , if the NL grows to 14-16 teams, as is possible ? Can they be fitted in? . Could they not just do what some teams did in the early days of the Amateur league/Conference League? 2 tracks sharing a team. Swindon/Reading, Newport/Exeter and Kings Lynn/Someone shared teams didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 This is all great news but just where are the riders coming from.Last year the National league was a good product and a good standard of riders.But if more teams are to come in the riders will have to be spread around,meaning a drop in standards because there is not enough to go around.And we all know how a drop in standards as done for the Elite league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 That's a whole different kettle of fish though, the EL is our nations top tier, the standard should be as high as possible. To say there's not enough riders for the NL Is a falsity, even if we lost the Aussies/Kiwis in the third tier. The solution is a slightly lower points limit, then teams would be encouraged to track two young three pointers, thus giving more young Brits that first step on to the speedway ladder. I hope the Colts run next year, in a NL with as many team as is possible. Not as many as is convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) This has to be great news for Northern Speedway and young riders, lets just hope the Fans support the idea, it has to be the way forward, and ALL EL/PL Teams that own there own Track should be going this way, i personally would not be at all surprised to see Plymouth running a NL Team if the planning conditions allow. So much for the doom and gloom merchants who forcast tough times for the NL in 2011, seems to me its only the Hierarchy further up the Speedway ladder who hold back the NL, if only the BSPA had the foresight to filter down a little of the SKY money to the NL then i am sure The NL and the development of YOUNG British riders would Thrive once again. Edited January 15, 2011 by greyhoundp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) Last year up north they had JUNIOR LEAGUE ,BUT COULD NOT FIND ENOUGH RIDERS TO RACE IN IT.Berwick had to field Jonathan Swales and Peter Johnson,Halifax had paul Burrnet and two girl riders,so if they cant find enough to fill these teams how are we going to find them for National League teams.If you get ridd of Aussies ect just take Buxton as a example they will loose Morris,branford,they also loose cook and if Belle Vue run it looks like they loose Garrity.so buxton will be looking for four riders,Bele Vue looking for a team Stoke ,milden hall,thats25 plus all others who loose Aussies.so thats about 30 riders who can put on a show.were the hell are they coming from? ps sorry for shouting it was a mistake. Edited January 15, 2011 by bw double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Last year up north they had JUNIOR LEAGUE ,BUT COULD NOT FIND ENOUGH RIDERS TO RACE IN IT.Berwick had to field Jonathan Swales and Peter Johnson,Halifax had paul Burrnet and two girl riders,so if they cant find enough to fill these teams how are we going to find them for National League teams.If you get ridd of Aussies ect just take Buxton as a example they will loose Morris,branford,they also loose cook and if Belle Vue run it looks like they loose Garrity.so buxton will be looking for four riders,Bele Vue looking for a team Stoke ,milden hall,thats25 plus all others who loose Aussies.so thats about 30 riders who can put on a show.were the hell are they coming from? ps sorry for shouting it was a mistake. We lose Plymouth, Bournemouth and potentially Weymouth. That's 27 riders there in theory. Plus 4 or 5 moving up from the u15's gives you the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Posted Yesterday, 11:22 PM bw double, on 15 January 2011 - 08:32 PM, said: Last year up north they had JUNIOR LEAGUE ,BUT COULD NOT FIND ENOUGH RIDERS TO RACE IN IT.Berwick had to field Jonathan Swales and Peter Johnson,Halifax had paul Burrnet and two girl riders,so if they cant find enough to fill these teams how are we going to find them for National League teams.If you get ridd of Aussies ect just take Buxton as a example they will loose Morris,branford,they also loose cook and if Belle Vue run it looks like they loose Garrity.so buxton will be looking for four riders,Bele Vue looking for a team Stoke ,milden hall,thats25 plus all others who loose Aussies.so thats about 30 riders who can put on a show.were the hell are they coming from? ps sorry for shouting it was a mistake. Well it`s great to see the Colts looking at a comeback, remember them at Hyde road when they swept all before them and then at Rochdale. Wonderful years and what about the riders they uncovered, possibly a lot of posters dont remember them As for the above post, please post facts and not what you think you know . The Northern Junior League was the success of the season, set up to give novices and riders who could not get a National League place a chance to ride . Mr.Swales and Mr.Johnson actually rode for Redcar. Mr. Burnett was the experienced rider to help the novices from Halifax, who actually fielded 4 riders who had not ridden in competetive matches previously. Finally the Girls who rode more than did justice on their appearances, one scoring a paid maximum. Do not be-little the efforts of people trying to enhance the sport at lower levels, they make the higher levels possible with rider progression through the leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 We lose Plymouth, Bournemouth and potentially Weymouth. That's 27 riders there in theory. Plus 4 or 5 moving up from the u15's gives you the riders. Yes, you lose the teams, but you don't necessarily lose the riders, as Vog quite rightly points out. Plymouth for instance are likely to use only two of their NL side this year (assuming that there IS any speedway this year). The remaining riders will presumably be looking for a ride this year? Past years have shown that while you lose and gain promotions, it tends to be a redistribution of the existing riders, with the newbies replacing the retirees and riders going PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Probably good for someone like Jack Hirst, he is based up that way I believe and was great for Redcar in the Junior League last year. Sure he said he wanted to ride in NAtional League but only for a Northern side. Would be a good reserve at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Last year up north they had JUNIOR LEAGUE ,BUT COULD NOT FIND ENOUGH RIDERS TO RACE IN IT.Berwick had to field Jonathan Swales and Peter Johnson,Halifax had paul Burrnet and two girl riders,so if they cant find enough to fill these teams how are we going to find them for National League teams.If you get ridd of Aussies ect just take Buxton as a example they will loose Morris,branford,they also loose cook and if Belle Vue run it looks like they loose Garrity.so buxton will be looking for four riders,Bele Vue looking for a team Stoke ,milden hall,thats25 plus all others who loose Aussies.so thats about 30 riders who can put on a show.were the hell are they coming from? ps sorry for shouting it was a mistake. Buxton won't neccessarily lose Branford, as any Aussies with a British passport will still be able to race in the NL regardless of whether they change the rules to stop Aussies/Kiwis riding or not. Hence the reason he, Morris & McBain all started on a 3.00 average for the Hitmen last season. But Morris can't ride NL as hehas a PL team and an PL average over 4.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Buxton won't neccessarily lose Branford, as any Aussies with a British passport will still be able to race in the NL regardless of whether they change the rules to stop Aussies/Kiwis riding or not. Hence the reason he, Morris & McBain all started on a 3.00 average for the Hitmen last season. But Morris can't ride NL as hehas a PL team and an PL average over 4.00. But Charles Wright now can, even if he gets a PL place, as his average has dropped below 4! Madness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 BELLE Vue have confirmed that they will be running a Colts team in the grassroots National League next season. They were accepted at last week’s annual meeting of the league and then the Aces were given until Monday of this week to make a final decision pending rent talks with their Greyhound Racing Association landlords at Kirkmanshulme Lane. Bosses David Gordon and Chris Morton, already buoyed by the signings of top stars Chris Harris and Rory Schlein for the senior team, continued a good week by reaching agreement with the GRA. Operations Director Morton said: “We are very grateful to the GRA because they were very helpful and supportive in what we are trying to do with the launch of a Colts team. “We need to keep a tight grip on the costs of this team. We have been very keen to promote grassroots speedway, especially as we want to run a youth academy if and when we get the green light for a new stadium. “We are delighted with the co-operation of the GRA because it would not have been possible to have this team without it. “Now we can look forward to seeing the youngsters in action and it will be good to have derby matches with Buxton and Stoke who have also joined the league. “What we need now is for our fans to give the team the right kind of support to make it work.” The National League programme will be for about ten home matches. They will be run on Mondays when the Aces have no fixture but will switch to Wednesdays on the occasions when there are two meetings in a week. Official Press Release Richard Frost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Brilliant news. Well done David Gordon and Chris Morton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Saint Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Well done to the Belle Vue management, I look forward to even more local derby matches for the Stoke Potters and I will be very pleased to bring my team to the home of the most famous speedway team in the world. For us that's local derbies against Buxton, Dudley and now Belle Vue. Not to mention the great matches against my old friends at Scuntorpe and the folk at Kings Lynn who I know so well. Yesterday Graham Drury mentioned to me the possibility of local derbies against a Birminham team the "Bulls". Great teams in the south as well. Things are looking good. Malcolm Vasey Edited January 31, 2011 by Proud Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Good to see BV confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Cat from Mars Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Great news that the Colts are running. There are quite a few local riders who could make up the team - Jon Armstrong and Lee Smethills spring to mind, plus the guys who have ridden in the second halves at Belle Vue, like Jordan Tyrer, the two Worralls (though feel they are Scunthorpe bound?) and maybe Kyle Howarth? It certainly makes a change to have such a strong Northern presence in the NL, and must give a boost to Northern riders who now don't have to drive to the South Coast to ply their trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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