BARNES Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I find it annoying seeing the weakened down elite league with hardly any grand prix stars in it. As such, surely the british public need a second british gp every year? Last season poland had three, and denmark and sweden had two. From what i have seen watching the gp's on sky, some of the stadiums do not even look up to much, so it cannot be that its just down to our speedway stadia lacking! Okay, it will not be up to the standard of cardiff, but surely coventry's stadium is up to the job of hosting a british gp like it previously has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Easy answer a 2nd British round would split the crowd you'd not get 45.000 at Cardiff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARNES Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Surely it would not dwindle that much though? Maybe still get 30k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 It has been stated before by the big man that they wouldn't think of a second GP until Cardiff is a sell out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARNES Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Gash!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 If you can't sell out one GP, why would you stage a second that would double your costs and may well split the crowd? The Cardiff GP is undoubtedly also the showcase round of the SGP, and another British GP would potentially dilute its impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 If you can't sell out one GP, why would you stage a second that would double your costs and may well split the crowd? I guess you would need to ask the Swedes and the Danes to answer that question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Easy answer a 2nd British round would split the crowd you'd not get 45.000 at Cardiff . Did Parken drop off that much when Vojens was added? Surely 10,000 people at Coventry would not lead to 10,000 people less at Cardiff, of that 10,000 some would be locals who don't travel to Cardiff anyway and a lot would do both. Do people really think that people will say, "Well, I've been to Coventry for a GP this year, I'm not going to the Millenium Stadium this time"? Did people not turn up with Coventry held the GP challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think a second GP round could work. The perfect place for it in my opinion would be Hampden Park Scotland. Although there is only Glasgow & Edinburgh I'm sure there would be a great number of locals there plus the travelling fans from Northern clubs like Newcastle, Redcar, Workington, Berwick maybe Belle Vue. Make it cheap for the first season, get the locals in and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Why not try the Isle of Wight, a good track for real racers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARNES Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Do sweden and denmark both sell out, and if so, what are their capacities please? I know for sure the denmark gp in the stadium with the temp track never looks sold out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Do sweden and denmark both sell out, and if so, what are their capacities please? I know for sure the denmark gp in the stadium with the temp track never looks sold out! No they don't sell out.But that has little bearing on IMG's attitude to Britain.Different country,different situation...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Did Parken drop off that much when Vojens was added? Surely 10,000 people at Coventry would not lead to 10,000 people less at Cardiff, of that 10,000 some would be locals who don't travel to Cardiff anyway and a lot would do both. Do people really think that people will say, "Well, I've been to Coventry for a GP this year, I'm not going to the Millenium Stadium this time"? Did people not turn up with Coventry held the GP challenge? I wouldn’t go to Cardiff if there was a GP at Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 There are multiple GPs in Poland because they sell out and the locals are prepared to pay IMG/BSI their asking price. Sweden is an interesting one, but there were rumours going around a few years ago that they were awarded two GPs to resolve some sort of legal issue. With Denmark, one wonders if the award of a GP to Vojens was part of the deal to retire Olsen as SGP Race Director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 While Brandon is a fine Elite stadium it doesn't compare to Cardiff in facilties and capacity. Not possible but Wembley would be ideal for crowd size as it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. Population of about 19 million in London and south-east, within hour's drive of Wembley. Don't think Hampden would attract many peeps though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_smudge57 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I would go to any gp in this country,wembley would be fantastic, i cant spare the cash to go abroad to any so one more in gb would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 While Brandon is a fine Elite stadium it doesn't compare to Cardiff in facilties and capacity. Not possible but Wembley would be ideal for crowd size as it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. Population of about 19 million in London and south-east, within hour's drive of Wembley. Don't think Hampden would attract many peeps though. Of course you're right that London should be the setting for a second British Gp - but am surprised you say Wembley's "not possible".. It very much IS possible - indeed if the money was put forward to stage there I have no one tiny shadow of doubt the authorities at Wembley would snap the hand off anyone wanting to stage such event under the arch! Equally, the new Olympic Stadium would be a total go-er for a big Speedway meeting...: what about finishing the 2012 GP series with the 'Olympic GP' in London E15!!! Also in London, I had plenty of time while Joe Hart took an age over taking goal kicks on Wednesday ( ) to gaze around the Emirates; and you know what, putting a temporary track there for a summer-staged London GP would be an excellent prospect... :approve: Hampden meanwhile is a tantalising prospect. Of course IF there were GPs in each GB capital as such a 'model' suggests, then it would HAVE to be the English GP, the Welsh GP and the Scottish GP.. Wouldn't worry about crowds: Wembley (or alternative) and Hampden would be sell-outs. Maybe Cardiff would reduce in crowd size a little but that CAN'T be used as an excuse to strangle at birth these progressive ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Also in London, I had plenty of time while Joe Hart took an age over taking goal kicks on Wednesday ( ) to gaze around the Emirates; and you know what, putting a temporary track there for a summer-staged London GP would be an excellent prospect... :approve: Surely motorbikes at the Emirates would break the stringent noise restrictions in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) One of the reasons I go to GPs is to see the best riders performing in the best possible surroundings. Coventry is a long way from being a comfortable stadium for a large crowd, whereas Cardiff is a proven performer, with a guaranteed meeting due to the roof. On another angle, can you seriously imagine a GP at Coventry on the track they dished up for the play-offs? Incidentally Oz & NZ GPs are still firmly on the agenda for IMG, and Australian promoters are constantly working at delivering; Gillman's acquisition of an Airfence being the latest evidence of this. (Me & Spiderweb are working on sponsoring a segment, but I don't want one that looks like me.) Edited January 7, 2011 by BigFatDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARNES Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I went for a tour around wembley stadium today. The tour guide went into the history of the stadium, including speedway and greyhound racing previously at the previous stadium. He also stated that the stadium could easily be used for greyhound and speedway once again! I did say say that i felt the stadium seats are now to near to the pitch for that, but he seemed to think otherwise! He also stated that the nfl matches played at the stadium, make 32 million pounds each match! So i assume that it would take a large amount of money to tempt wembley to let a grand prix be staged at the stadium. The stadium is allowed forty events per year. Yet last year, it only staged 28, meaning if the money was of the correct amount, we could get speedway at wembley! What a thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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